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<P>"<B>At sixes and sevens</B>" is an <A href="/wiki/English_language" title="English language">English</A> <A href="/wiki/Idiom" title="Idiom">idiom</A> used to describe a condition of confusion or disarray.</P>
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<P>An ancient dispute between the <A href="/wiki/Worshipful_Company_of_Merchant_Taylors" title="Worshipful Company of Merchant Taylors">Merchant Taylors</A> and <A href="/wiki/Worshipful_Company_of_Skinners" title="Worshipful Company of Skinners">Skinners</A> <A href="/wiki/Livery_company" title="Livery company">livery companies</A> is the probable origin of the phrase.<SUP id="cite_ref-wwwords_1-0" class="reference"><A href="#cite_note-wwwords-1">[1]</A></SUP> The two trade associations, both founded in the same year (1327<SUP id="cite_ref-theskinnerscompany.org.uk_2-0" class="reference"><A href="#cite_note-theskinnerscompany.org.uk-2">[2]</A></SUP>), argued over sixth place in the <A href="/wiki/Livery_Company#Precedence" class="mw-redirect" title="Livery Company">order of precedence</A>. In 1484, after more than a century and a half of bickering, the Lord Mayor of London Sir Robert Billesden ruled that at <A href="/wiki/Corpus_Christi_(feast)" title="Corpus Christi (feast)">the feast of Corpus Christi</A>, the companies would swap between sixth and seventh place and feast in each other's halls. Nowadays, they alternate in precedence on an annual basis.<SUP id="cite_ref-wwwords_1-1" class="reference"><A href="#cite_note-wwwords-1">[1]</A></SUP><SUP id="cite_ref-theskinnerscompany.org.uk_2-1" class="reference"><A href="#cite_note-theskinnerscompany.org.uk-2">[2]</A></SUP></P>
<P>A similar phrase, "to set the world on six and seven", is used by <A href="/wiki/Geoffrey_Chaucer" title="Geoffrey Chaucer">Geoffrey Chaucer</A> in his <I><A href="/wiki/Troilus_and_Criseyde" title="Troilus and Criseyde">Troilus and Criseyde</A></I>. It dates from the mid-1380s and seems from its context to mean "to hazard the world" or "to risk one's life".<SUP id="cite_ref-3" class="reference"><A href="#cite_note-3">[3]</A></SUP> <A href="/wiki/William_Shakespeare" title="William Shakespeare">William Shakespeare</A> uses a similar phrase in <I><A href="/wiki/Richard_II_(play)" title="Richard II (play)">Richard II</A></I>, "But time will not permit: all is uneven, And every thing is left at six and seven".</P>
<P>The phrase is also used in <A href="/wiki/Gilbert_and_Sullivan" title="Gilbert and Sullivan">Gilbert & Sullivan</A>'s comic opera <A href="/wiki/Hms_pinafore" class="mw-redirect" title="Hms pinafore"><I>H.M.S. Pinafore</I></A> (1878), where Captain Corcoran, the ship's Commander, is confused as to what choices to make in his life, and exclaims in the opening song of Act II, "Fair moon, to thee I sing, bright regent of the heavens, say, why is everything either at sixes or at sevens?"</P>
<P>The phrase took on additional meaning during the early 1960s, when debate over Britain's position in Europe under <A href="/wiki/Harold_Macmillan" title="Harold Macmillan">Harold Macmillan</A> centred on membership of the EEC 'Six' or the EFTA 'Seven' smaller independent states.</P>
<P>The phrase appears in a few songs, including "<A href="/wiki/Don%27t_Cry_for_Me_Argentina" title="Don't Cry for Me Argentina">Don't Cry for Me Argentina</A>" from the musical <I><A href="/wiki/Evita_(musical)" title="Evita (musical)">Evita</A>,</I> "<A href="/wiki/Raoul_and_the_Kings_of_Spain_(song)" title="Raoul and the Kings of Spain (song)">Raoul and the Kings of Spain</A>" from <A href="/wiki/Tears_for_Fears" title="Tears for Fears">Tears for Fears</A>, and "Playing With Fire" by <A href="/wiki/Stereo_MCs" title="Stereo MCs">Stereo MCs</A>. The eleventh studio album from <A href="/wiki/Strange_Music" title="Strange Music">Strange Music</A> front man <A href="/wiki/Tech_N9ne" title="Tech N9ne">Tech N9ne</A> was entitled "All 6's and 7's". The song "Sixes and Sevens" was cowritten and sung by <A href="/wiki/Robert_Plant" title="Robert Plant">Robert Plant</A>. It also appears in the Rolling Stones' song "Tumbling Dice".</P>
<P>The phrase is also used in the 1978 movie <I><A href="/wiki/The_Wiz" title="The Wiz">The Wiz</A></I>, when Miss One gives Dorothy the silver slippers and comments, "Oh, don't be all sixes and sevens, honey" to Dorothy as Dorothy is in a state of confusion after killing the Wicked Witch of the East. It is also found in the 1993 film <I><A href="/wiki/The_Remains_of_the_Day" title="The Remains of the Day">The Remains of the Day</A></I>. It is also mentioned in the 2002 film <I><A href="/wiki/Goldmember" title="Goldmember">Goldmember</A></I> by Mike Myers' character Austin Powers to his dad, who at the time were speaking "English English": "oh, the one who was all sixes and sevens?" During the second episode of season five of the HBO series <I><A href="/wiki/Six_Feet_Under_(TV_series)" title="Six Feet Under (TV series)">Six Feet Under</A></I>, George uses the phrase to describe his wife's attitude towards him.</P>
<P>We also come across the phrase in Sabina's opening monologue from <A href="/wiki/Thornton_Wilder" title="Thornton Wilder">Thornton Wilder</A>'s 1942 Pulitzer Prize winning play <I><A href="/wiki/The_Skin_of_Our_Teeth" title="The Skin of Our Teeth">The Skin of Our Teeth</A>:</I> "The whole world's at sixes and sevens, and why the house hasn't fallen down about our ears long ago is a miracle to me."</P>
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<P>The phrase bears comparison with the <A href="/wiki/Chinese_language" title="Chinese language">Chinese</A> phrase <I>luan qi ba zao</I> (亂七八糟, literally "chaos seven eight rotten"), which means messy (which could refer to a messy situation—implying problems, which in turn could possibly include hazard, but hazard is not a necessary element to the Chinese phrase. The phrase could also be literally used to mean a physical mess) but instead uses the numbers seven and eight.<SUP id="cite_ref-4" class="reference"><A href="#cite_note-4">[4]</A></SUP> Also, it can be compared with the Chilean phrase <I>al tres y al cuatro</I>, with a similar meaning, but using the numbers three and four. In Arabic, the phrase يضرب أخماساً لأسداس (He shows fifths for sixths) is said of a devious person who says one thing but means another, (تاج العروس), which would naturally lead to a state of confusion and of being "at sixes and sevens". A similar expression is used also in Persian where they say شش پنج ("He says five but he means six"). In the related <A href="/wiki/Maltese_language" title="Maltese language">Maltese language</A>, the phrase <I>sitta u sitta, tnax</I> (six and six make twelve) exists, which is an ironic phrase used to describe someone who is aloof and has no idea what is going on. In <A href="/wiki/Russian_language" title="Russian language">Russian</A>, the phrase "семь, восемь" (literally, "seven (or) eight") means that something isn't done very well or precisely, so it measures "either seven or eight".</P>
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