illuminatiwatcher--2020-07-22--Kubrick’s Eye Wide Shut & Furniture, JFK Zapruder, Ghost Hunting and Upcoming Documentaries with Rya

On today ’ s episode of the Conspiracy Theories and Unpopular Culture podcast we are joined by ANOTHER special guest- this time from Hollywood !
Ryan Page , the filmmaker who gave us the documentary about Tool ’ s Maynard Keenan ’ s vineyard “ Blood Into Wine ” , comedy “ Queens of Country ” , Crispin Glover ’ s “ What Is It ?
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We go through his history with Crispin Glover , we swap ghost hunting stories ( *one of his stories is @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , a new JFK doc with the REAL Zapruder footage , and we wrap up with a dive into Kubrick !
We get into the human furniture in “ Eyes Wide Shut ” , the child abuse prevalent in the storyline , a Kubrick project to expose child abuse that never came to fruition and some news on his exciting “ Eyes Wide Shut ” documentary dropping in the future !
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runs that stuff runs throughout Kubrick ’ s career .
Another thing that probably most people I say would not know is that right @ @ @ @ @ @ @ second film , he almost made a film called burning secret .
Have you heard about this ?
No , this script exists and they they just found it like a year ago and someone ’ s you know , stuffed in some attic somewhere .
goobric wrote a wrote a script called burning secret .
And it ’ s a story about this Baron who ’ s kind of been ousted from his family , I think , and he is down on his luck and he ’ s trying to , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ ’ s going to try and woo and sort of like the reverse of Lolita , and Lolita you know , those Humbert Humbert tries to you know , tries to get with the Shelley Winters character , but in this burning secret uses her 10 year old son nine or 10 year old son to get to the woman Trying to ultimately marry .
The hits keep coming .
The hits keep coming .
I recently did an interview with Britney Spears , ex husband , Jason Alexander .
And now we @ @ @ @ @ @ @ another big hitter .
I got Ryan page a filmmaker .
Another Hollywood big shot .
We ’ ve been talking for some time now I consider him a friend .
And he is the man who gave us documentaries about tools video vineyard with Maynard Keenan called blood into wine , the comedy queens of country .
Crispin Glover ’ s What is it and much more .
He joins us today to talk about some very exciting projects .
And your get ready strap in this one ’ s gon na @ @ @ @ @ @ @ as you ’ ll hear on the show .
First of all go through a little bit of his history .
What got him into filmmaking ?
How he met Crispin Glover .
we swap a couple of ghost hunting stories and his story blows mine out of the water .
And he sent me a photo of the injury incurred by his pair .
And I ’ ll push that on to the Instagram at Isaac Weishaupt link in the show notes as always like and subscribe .
Now , and then @ @ @ @ @ @ @ ll go We ’ ll talk a little bit about Oliver Stone .
And then we ’ re going to get into some wild stuff .
We ’ re gon na talk about a new JFK documentary with the real Zapruder footage , not that fake news Zapruder footage you probably saw that I saw .
I thought that was it .
I thought I saw it as a pruder footage .
Turns out we didn ’ t .
And my man here , he ’ s gon na give it to you @ @ @ @ @ @ @ a documentary about it .
So he ’ s gon na give you details on that .
Then finally , we wrap up with the craziest Fighting , we dive into the mind of Stanley Kubrick once more .
As you know , I wrote the book Cooper ’ s code .
And we talked about 2001 A Space Odyssey we talked about the shining , we talked about A Clockwork Orange .
And we talked about Eyes Wide Shut , which is what Ryan is here to drop the knowledge on us @ @ @ @ @ @ @ of human furniture .
Yes , indeed .
He thought the wayfair story was over .
No , we already did an hour on wayfair a week or two ago .
2020 is moving so fast .
I can ’ t keep up .
But yeah , the there ’ s some child abuse , very prevalent in the storyline of Eyes Wide Shut as we discuss .
And then , you know , Ryan ’ s gon na tell you about this project .
Kubrick was working to expose child abuse .
@ @ @ @ @ @ @ , and then if you if you weren ’ t Mind blown yet , he ’ s gon na drop some exciting news .
A documentary that he ’ s gon na be working on here , and I ’ ll let you listen for that .
You ’ re gon na enjoy it .
So , again if you want to check out Ryan pages IMDb , it ’ s up .
I ’ ve got the link in the show notes .
I got the link on Illuminati watcher calm .
@ @ @ @ @ @ @ ado , let ’ s get into it .
All right , yeah , yeah .
On our let ’ s , let ’ s have a chat today .
Let ’ s talk about some things .
I think primarily , I want to I want to talk about your latest with qubic .
Eyes Wide Shut that kind of stuff that seems to be bubbling up again Vancouver ’ s back at it .
What ’ s Uh , what ’ s the latest one ?
I Well , you know @ @ @ @ @ @ @ .
I appreciate it .
love your show , man .
And I heard you this started kind of when I heard you talking about the whole thing with furniture , you know , and you were starting to kind of get into stuff and i and i that triggers something I ’ m I ’ m a filmmaker as you know .
I ’ m I ’ m and not remember .
Really many people know this , but I ’ ve been working secretly on a film on Eyes Wide Shut @ @ @ @ @ @ @ ’ t know me out there .
I just do a brief introduction , man .
I ’ ll let you introduce yourself to everybody .
Sure , okay .
Okay .
My name is Ryan page everybody .
Hello out there I am , I ’ m a filmmaker mainly a documentarian , I , I ’ m director and a producer .
I got my starts with a film .
Well , it ’ s kind of a people may find it interesting .
I ’ ll be brief about it @ @ @ @ @ @ @ a high school .
In high school .
I didn ’ t know anything .
I was just I didn ’ t know how the system work that was just a high school senior , you know , 17 years old , and I wrote a script .
It was called a single bound .
And the guy I co wrote a script with we said , Hey , what do we want to do ?
You know , we ’ ve been in .
We ’ ve been making little videos and @ @ @ @ @ @ @ to send it out to an actor wanted to kind of up our game and see if we could get it made as a film .
So we sent it to an actor , one actor , we only have one script to an actor ’ s representatives and that actors Crispin Glover , Crispin , hellion .
Glover .
That ’ s his real middle name hellion .
And for those that don ’ t know him automatically , he ’ s pretty incredible artists and actor is he was played George @ @ @ @ @ @ @ McFly .
He was in River ’ s Edge .
That ’ s an absolute classic from back in the day .
Charlie ’ s Angels .
And a lot of really interesting Wild at Heart , David Lynch .
Crispin was , you know , very interesting , eccentric actor .
We really liked him .
So we sent the script his representatives .
We got lucky .
One of his agents called me back on my home line where I ’ m living with my family , my mom and dad @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , Hey , do you want to make our client and offer a monetary offer ?
And of course , you know , didn ’ t have two nickels to rub together .
You know , but I kind of bullshitted my way through it and somehow made an offer money offer illegal money offer .
Luckily Crispin called back and he ’ s , he called me my mom answered the phone .
Yeah , here , answered it .
And he said he really liked the script , and that he @ @ @ @ @ @ @ interesting .
I mean , I , of course , I wanted to talk to you more about it .
He had an idea for it where all the characters in the film were portrayed by Down syndrome actors .
That sounded interesting .
The story wasn ’ t about Down syndrome at all .
And that ’ s curious because that ’ s a that ’ s a big theme right now is having , you know , people have , I don ’ t know what you want to call it @ @ @ @ @ @ @ demographic playing the roles that are intended for , kind of that ’ s kind of the big thing now is that all these voice actors that play you know , black actors on the So they ’ re all quitting because they ’ re not black now because you ’ re so right .
Yeah , that this has become a thing and I think Crispin saw that way back then , you know , this is the year 2000 .
Right before 2000 it was it was like 1998 or something @ @ @ @ @ @ @ a film called what ’ s Eating Gilbert Grape ?
Have you seen that film ?
You know , it ’ s on my short list of movies that have to watch I love Leo DiCaprio right ?
He was in that right ?
Yeah .
But he he portrays you know , mentally challenged .
Brought sibling of Johnny Depp in this film .
I really hate crushes it you know like really solid work .
an afro is one of my favorite actors of all time .
He ’ s so @ @ @ @ @ @ @ why he only got that was it an Academy Award for revenue which is my least favorite movie is ?
I think it ’ s saying they always give the Academy Award like for you once you crush it , they get it you don ’ t get you don ’ t win that year .
You win like you ’ re , you know , they it ’ s like a makeup thing .
But you Crispin was in it with , you know , Leonardo and he really likes his How @ @ @ @ @ @ @ but he just had a kind of a bee in his bonnet about you know , having these actors , he thinks that they have a they portray a lot , I guess like I don ’ t .
It ’ s almost like they ’ re not acting .
It ’ s almost like they ’ re in it and that ’ s kind of what he wanted .
So we kind of Crispin did some rewriting on our script and we ended up making this film .
It ’ s called @ @ @ @ @ @ @ been touring it around for the last 20 years , I think .
He goes , he goes to the certain towns and he appears with the film .
And as he calls it , Crispin Helen Glover ’ s big slideshow , and he does some readings and it ’ s a it ’ s a cool night and the films out there .
So that ’ s how I got my starts , you know , couldn ’ t have been with a more interesting actor .
David Lynch was executive @ @ @ @ @ @ @ kind of was my entree into Hollywood .
I mean , I say , oh , that David Lynch , huh ?
David Lynch executives the I actually got him to , I didn ’ t know him .
I knew I knew that he and Crispin like each other .
So I went to David on the set is on a set of Lost Highway where I met him so that ’ s , that ’ ll that ’ ll tie it to a year but I went to that set and @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Hey , we ’ re making this film with Chris , you know , Christmas directing it and and he ’ s a Crispin also Yeah , he so he signed on right then and there and that was that .
So that was kind of a good way but I you know , the thing is , like , I also man , I ’ m not a fan of Hollywood , like I wasn ’ t into it .
I ’ m there to make interesting films .
And I , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ I always saw myself as a nonfiction filmmaker , so I went kind of that way .
I ’ m kind of like , you know , Werner Hertzog is my favorite film director of all time , you know , do you know him ?
No , that ’ s a trip .
Got ta check him out .
I know you ’ re kind of like a I know some like you ’ re kind of iffy on like the artsy films as you call them .
But But Hertzog is @ @ @ @ @ @ @ he ’ s a true legend .
Like if you hear the volcano is going off , he ’ s going in that volcano to shoot , shoot top of that volcano .
He ’ s directed actors at gunpoint in the middle of the Amazon .
Holy moly .
Yeah , I ’ ll check that out .
For sure , man .
Yeah , I ’ m really into documentaries .
I watch like horror movies .
You think Grizzly man .
Is that the documentary about the bear that eats @ @ @ @ @ @ @ that ’ s his film .
Really .
It ’ s very , you know , kind of to tonic .
You know , he ’ s great speaking style .
He ’ s hilarious , but it ’ s just he ’ s a visionary really , but until you ’ ve seen that , you ’ ve seen a Hertzog film .
Yeah , that movie is incredible .
Man .
I you can ’ t you can ’ t forget that one .
For sure .
Y ’ all check @ @ @ @ @ @ @ .
And you did .
You did blood into wine .
Right .
That ’ s another that ’ s a great documentary .
Thanks , man .
Thanks Yeah , I did a I did blood to wine that ’ s a film on tool and a perfect circle frontman Maynard James Keenan making wine in Arizona .
I ’ m from Arizona .
I live part time in Arizona , with my family .
But um , yeah , that ’ s I ’ m really proud of that film .
@ @ @ @ @ @ @ make a new set up to make a documentary , you have at least my approach to documentary you can ’ t go in with kind of affirm .
This is the way the film is going to be kind of , you have to have a , you have your idea and it ’ s fleshed out and you ’ re not going in willy nilly , but you have to be open to where the film wants to take you .
If you try and push too hard down whatever way @ @ @ @ @ @ @ ll you ’ ll make a bad film .
It ’ s a guarantee .
Because so you know , life happens , things happen .
You have to kind of just keep your eyes and ears open and the story will sort of tell you wherever it wants to go .
And that in my approach , that movie was interesting to you know , see me Maynard Keenan First off , because like , he ’ s not a very public figure .
He shocked me honestly , like , he @ @ @ @ @ @ @ know how he was .
I don ’ t know .
It sounds really stupid and naive .
And it was so normal and sort of laid back and kind of a cool dude .
And , you know , he reminded me of Andy Kaufman a bit where like , you can ’ t tell if he ’ s being intense and serious like he wants to punch you or if he ’ s like , just joking and messing with you .
You know , it ’ s only when I @ @ @ @ @ @ @ here .
I don ’ t I don ’ t talk a lot about when I was in high school but just chatting now but when I was in high school again , I we heard that wow , the dude from tool lead singer of the tool , Maynard Keenan moved to Jerome , which is a ghost town .
We already moved to Jerome , Arizona , and he got up and he had got breast implants .
That ’ s what we heard ever .
How ’ s the rumor @ @ @ @ @ @ @ s weird , man .
That ’ s cool , whatever .
So he ’ s serious figure living like Dracula up on a mountain .
You know , you probably haven ’ t been through that part of Arizona right ?
Ah because you It ’ s a town of he lives and makes wine in this town called Jerome which is an old mining town .
And it ’ s maybe if there ’ s like 200 people there .
That ’ s more than I thought there would be , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ a show there ?
that just came to me for no reason .
We were sitting there at the same time they were so like , there ’ s not many .
I mean , yeah , it ’ s such a small place when there ’ s another film crew in town .
You definitely know it , you know ?
So we shot there for like , over a year and those guys came through .
They were shooting at our hotel .
We stayed at the Jerome grand with spooky @ @ @ @ @ @ @ cool .
Yeah .
I ’ ll share with you this .
Like one day we woke up .
We ’ re heading to go down to Maynard ’ s vineyards which are just gorgeous on the side of this mountain there .
And like , there ’ s this commotion in the van in front of me .
What ’ s my film crew I start honking the horn .
I could see the commotion .
Oh my god .
Get out what ’ s going on , man ?
It ’ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ re like , dude , Ben is having a bit of a problem .
What ’ s the problem ?
They bring Ben out of the car .
He ’ s our second cameraman .
He turned right lift up a shirt .
And he ’ s got this .
ripped down his back and opened up and I could see that his rib cage , like three or four inches of his rib cage .
Dude , what the hell man get to a hospital now Dude , I think was a @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Well , he woke up and the whole night did take a you know , to use the facility use the restroom .
And something shoved him into the bathtub .
A ghost shoved him into the bathtub .
And on the nozzle .
It ’ s ripped open .
His back is right down .
What ?
Yeah , they were trying to make him the goddess sacrifice like Whitney Houston .
Maybe .
We checked it .
We turned around .
We checked out a hotel man .
I mean , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Was that the same hotel the ghosts adventure guys were in .
Yes , yes .
That wasn ’ t that when they were there but that ’ s where they were .
Yeah .
Without they already been there and shot .
That ’ s incredible man .
I mean , this took , I mean , I could it was the nastiest thing I ’ ve ever seen .
Oh dude , he wouldn ’ t he wouldn ’ t go to the hospital he shot a full day out Maynard @ @ @ @ @ @ @ get them to go .
So major props to Ben .
He killed it .
He crushed it that day , but shooting we took him down .
He had like , hundred staples in his back .
It ’ s crazy .
So that ’ s wild , dude .
Yeah , and that ’ s a man .
As I ’ ve talked about the past , like I used to do , I did ghost hunting before it was on TV with a guy met in the military .
He @ @ @ @ @ @ @ do this ghost hunting thing .
And I was like , dude , you ’ re crazy , man .
This is like in 99 .
And tell me about that .
What what I ’ m interested in that ’ s up to like , what I really yeah , so like my buddy was .
His name was Tito .
And he was he was a crazy dude .
He was a staff sergeant that I worked under .
And we used to talk about all kinds of wild stuff cuz @ @ @ @ @ @ @ .
Anyway , he um you know , you know in the military like you kind of just hang out with everybody like everyone from work just hangs out all the time .
And he was just like telling me he was hanging out with these a Utah ghost hunter society and this is back in like , you know , in the early internet stages where every website you went to was like you know real garbage text and like crappy pictures , you know ?
And he was like they had @ @ @ @ @ @ @ check this out man and like he showed me a bunch of pictures and they had like the sound files you could download of the VPS and he explained the whole thing to me and I was like , dude , you guys are crazy man and and I went with a mom like three ghost towns and the one was like a high school where some kids don ’ t die or something this is before you really check things out on the internet .
See if they were true .
You @ @ @ @ @ @ @ told you .
Another place we went to was like this , this like fellows field out the middle of nowhere that was haunted .
And and and we would get weird things and I was just and I saw in that in that in that high school it was dark in there and we had a video camera with a What do you call it the green shit with the infrared camera or whatever call it night vision and these guys were just standing there watching I ’ m like what are @ @ @ @ @ @ @ look on the little viewfinder screen as you watch it in real time he ’ s like just stand here and watch this for like 10 minutes you ’ re gon na see orbs floating by and I sir shit man I saw orbs floating by that you couldn ’ t see with your visible naked eye .
And then when I watched my I ’ ll give you like a brief summation of there was like a talk all day .
Then we had like a I called another orb on a @ @ @ @ @ @ @ went to my girlfriend ’ s home and did an MVP .
And my girlfriend was in the backyard with her mom .
And we were listening to the EP the playback and it said we clearly heard it say because we you know you walk around you ’ re like what ’ s your And it was like James very clearly said , James .
And then like , we heard some other couple weird things and I yell out the back porch .
I ’ m like , Hey , you @ @ @ @ @ @ @ it was her .
My girlfriend ’ s grandfather who died .
And I was like , And then we and then more crazy things happen .
We started having there was like an intercom thing in this house .
And it was like going off and telling her telling her , Hey , come down the basement .
It ’ s me .
And it ’ s crazy .
And God , she ’ s like , Hey , are you messaging me ?
There ’ s someone trying to tell me @ @ @ @ @ @ @ someone ’ s down there .
And I said , What ?
And I said , Ah , and I freaked out .
We went home and , and you didn ’ t go to the basement ?
Yeah , we checked it all out .
And there ’ s nothing out there .
And if you had to dig for it or something , you know .
Yeah , it was buried .
Maybe someone buried I don ’ t know .
It could be it could be asked to check it @ @ @ @ @ @ @ t know .
Weird I don ’ t know where I stand also , I was gon na say the coop one of the coolest things about being a documentarian is you do get to experience all these different worlds you know , so I ’ ve , I got hired once to .
There ’ s this house in San Diego called the Whaley house , which is allegedly haunted .
And we got to spend the night in there allegedly .
Regis Philbin , I guess did it in like the @ @ @ @ @ @ @ night in there and he got so scared he ran out and so we spent the night of this this house the Whaley house , and I didn ’ t feel a thing , but and it was just kind of a general vibe but nothing really .
But then one time my wife and my two kids , we were moved into this house .
It was in California and my wife mother had just passed so it was kind of a bad time for the rough time for all of us @ @ @ @ @ @ @ house and at night I started as the first time ever in my life .
I felt anything like it but I would feel this .
This presence kind of that would move up on me every night very I wasn ’ t liking it .
Okay .
I feel like getting real close to my Basically when I ’ d open up I have spooky spooky I I started thinking maybe it ’ s my mother my wife ’ s mother which is pretty neat so but out but then I started @ @ @ @ @ @ @ a negative vibe so then I had a friend over who ’ s one of my wife and I are friends and second she walked in the house we ’ ve not said a word to her she said oh there ’ s a you have a entity that ’ s right over there .
said really what is it what is a wizard ?
Is it Oh , she ’ s long hair long black hair .
This and that .
So I mean just crazy stuff .
Yeah , there was @ @ @ @ @ @ @ that weird stuff and I and I believe in like mediums and stuff .
Like I think there ’ s Surely there ’ s crooks out there that like play it up .
Like they can do these things .
But there ’ s for sure people that have like empathic abilities .
And I mean , clearly the CIA spent a ton of money researching this stuff .
So you ’ re absolutely manual .
Yeah , okay , so we were talking about your documentary with with Maynard which is really @ @ @ @ @ @ @ ’ re pretty caught up so so yeah , we ’ re all yeah .
So , you know , I am I then I can ’ t Yeah .
Okay , so at that point , I started I linked up with Oliver Stone .
Who I you know , I , of course I think he ’ s a great filmmaker JFK was really a seminal film for me .
I saw it .
Also in high school .
This is like the high school hour over here , but I @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , that ’ s what really got my eyes opened up .
It ’ s really I mean , just on a just on a filmmaking from a filmmaking standpoint , it ’ s just a tour de force .
You know what I mean ?
It ’ s editing what what he what he did what he and his editors did on that film is not I haven ’ t seen it duplicated .
It ’ s just Yeah , see , that ’ s cool .
Man .
I wish I @ @ @ @ @ @ @ there ’ s I don ’ t understand What it takes to make a film I just know the final product and like yeah , that was cool .
I like to think of all that .
I mean , I think they ’ re every medium that you can shoot on he used on that film just like black and white old film stocks .
Super 8 like he ’ s just and he ’ s cut it all up just crazy .
It ’ s , it was the first film @ @ @ @ @ @ @ films I can think of , you know , but uh , so I got to I got to meet all of her .
And this was kind of interesting because it was right before the JFK 50th anniversary .
So we started Um , so I met Oliver and then I think through him I met we got linked up with this couple .
You know , what does Zapruder film is obviously you ’ ve seen it is that the one that Bill Cooper always used in his lectures where he @ @ @ @ @ @ @ seat actually turns around and shoots him in the head .
I think that ’ s the Zapruder ?
That didn ’ t happen .
But the weird thing about the Zapruder film , okay , so there ’ s the National Archives , I think it is opened up for investigators to come in and make a 8k copy of this brooder film .
If you ’ re a serious researcher , you can kind of come in , we ’ re opening this up for a couple days or whatever .
@ @ @ @ @ @ @ of it .
And they live in California , and they came in they made this beautiful this pristine copy of the Zapruder film , and I got to come in and see it .
And let me tell you this 99.99 % of Americans have never seen a brooder film because what I saw that day is not what you see is not the same film that is we ’ ve seen for the last 15 years .
I wait a minute wait , let ’ s back up here .
So @ @ @ @ @ @ @ I ’ ve seen like you know , you Google it or whatever , seen it but that it ’ s been edited really well .
Yeah , yeah and I , okay , that ’ s that kind of started my journey because I this couple , I sat down they showed me this pristine , beautiful 8k copy of the Zapruder film , it ’ s probably got four or five extra seconds in it .
Okay .
And the first is there ’ s a there ’ s a router @ @ @ @ @ @ @ to investigate into that .
Okay , and we met a gentleman named Dino bruzzone .
He ’ s a pretty pretty up there in age by now , but he worked at the Hawkeye that ’ s what it was called .
I ’ m trying to remember what ’ s call it ’ s called the Hawkeye was he worked at a place where the CIA and FBI they all came into their photography work , okay , like they had this stuff developed and packaged up or whatever .
I @ @ @ @ @ @ @ ’ s definitely on the east coast .
Do you know Bruce Gianni , ran that place in 1963 .
And we have them on film talking about how in ninth and November 22 1963 , he was called into work .
At night , he rolls down to work .
And there ’ s some some gentlemen dressed in black , and they have a brief couple briefcases full of stuff and they open it up and they say , we ’ re going to develop this film and we ’ re @ @ @ @ @ @ @ .
You know , we ’ re going to , we ’ re going to , you ended up spending the weekend cutting that film into what was presented to us later .
And then it was sold to Life magazine , and no one even saw for about a year or something .
And then they finally showed the film .
So he added that film , we have long films , and this is very , he ’ s sharp as a tack .
He ’ s the he ’ s @ @ @ @ @ @ @ ’ s just entirely believable irrespective .
Is there a way for us to see the original Zapruder or is this like a secret lock ?
And that ’ s all part of this process , a process ?
You know , ultimately out ?
We ’ re going to it ’ s going to come out on film , so Oh , so I ’ m going to come out someday here .
Yeah , yeah .
Yeah , it is .
Yeah .
Well , that ’ s what we ’ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ We ’ re making the film now .
So that ’ s one of the I ’ m kind of involved in like three different films right now .
There ’ s that film that and then the then kind of , and that film was also about them the making of Oliver Stone ’ s film JFK .
So that ’ s also part of that and everything that ’ s going on in the 50 years .
But also , you know , it ’ s like , I think what @ @ @ @ @ @ @ about the JFK assassination , I think , you know , most of Americans pretty much understand that that there was some fire that went on that day .
That you know , the facts are there it ’ s it ’ s a there ’ s it , staunch people up but you know , holding on tightly to the odds while being the lone assassin , but it ’ s , most people I think , understand that he wasn ’ t .
So I you know , I don ’ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ ’ s , you know , sings to the choir either .
So this film I was going to have , you know , a bunch of everything that ’ s happened since that time because that really is in terms of like our lifetime .
We weren ’ t alive then .
But you know , our These two couple generations we ’ re living in right now .
That ’ s really when it kicked off .
Wouldn ’ t you say ?
Like , yeah , absolutely .
I think @ @ @ @ @ @ @ like , huge moment huge .
Like , I don ’ t know what you call it the same like 2001 .
You know , it was like , things changed .
And , you know , now , what ’ s the , I don ’ t want to I don ’ t want to harp on too long .
But like , Is there something in the original Zapruder just to double back on that ?
There ’ s something that like indicates there ’ s someone that did this thing @ @ @ @ @ @ @ what you see , in the , when you see the original film , what was purported to be the Zapruder film straight out of Abraham ’ s Zapruder ’ s camera .
You saw a bunch of weird jaggedy edit cuts and like little time snaps and all kinds of stuff .
Well , of course , when you see this other film , you see shots reining in Okay , you see shots bouncing off sidewalk and build them .
And if you studied the JFK assassination for more than a @ @ @ @ @ @ @ such a tight timeline in which the in which the bullets were coming down on them that there was only time for three bullets with the mannlicher carcano weapon that Oswald allegedly used , you know , he had to rack that stuff back and that take that to two seconds .
He could only get off three shots in those .
I think it was six seconds on a moving target .
On a moving target going moving away from him at this weird angle .
I still of course , they @ @ @ @ @ @ @ the window at the sixth floor museum with that ’ s incredible after all these years , you can ’ t stand in the window and catch the shot for yourself .
They don ’ t let you do that .
You ’ re right my buddy or just just went there and he told me that same thing as a white man like , come on .
Come on .
Anyway , so yeah , when you see the full film , you realize that there you see the shot there rain @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , I think I think Oliver is right and other Those that have said the same thing that there was a triangulation of crossfire .
They know exactly what they were doing that day .
The ones that I mean , this is and this fact I don ’ t hear many people talking about this , but okay , if you can only have the three shots , right and the six seconds or whatever it was like governor Connolly , the governor of Texas is sitting right in front of Kennedy @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , you know , three rows of limo right .
And Kennedy is in the back with his wife and then in the front or governor or and on the second row , our governor , Governor Connolly and his wife and then a limo driver and somewhere some sort of secret service agent .
Well , Governor Connally was , you know , he he had he was hit by all kinds of he was hit by bullets you shot .
They didn ’ t when they took him to hospital , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ candy .
What was that ?
Did you hear that ?
( **Ryan is referencing a strange loud banging sound from Isaac ’ s studio ) Yeah , that was Yeah , that ’ s not so bad It wasn ’ t as loud on my end not alarmingly .
Like really loud but it sounds like it was either really loud lightning Thunder or like aliens are landing on your street .
But anyway governor Connolly no one talks about its governor Connolly they left the left a lot of the lead @ @ @ @ @ @ @ he lived his life out and he died .
He died with that lead from that day inside him .
When you see the bullet that they say is the you know , the magic bullet that goes bounces all around in that limo and and does all these makes all these wounds .
There ’ s only like a little sliver of something off it .
You know , when you ’ re in the military you you ’ ve seen a bullet hit things haven ’ t , I ’ m @ @ @ @ @ @ @ through they ’ re pretty messed up right .
Steam that went that it all these things that hidden bone and get ricocheting off and going in there .
Well , Governor Connolly died with more lead in his body alone than is missing off of that bullet .
Really Totally both that ’ s alleged to have him I don ’ t hear anyone saying this but I ’ m like this is like it ’ s like it ’ s a game over what ’ s he ’ s right like @ @ @ @ @ @ @ only bullet that went through Kennedy Oh Kennedy had two shots he took like a tricky or they say it went through the back but he obviously took a frontal shot to like is not as tricky and then he took the headshot but the magic bullet the ledge magical is the only bullet that is alleged to have hit con went through Connolly and Kennedy .
And it made like eight or something different wounds when like ding ding ding and bouncing .
Well if that bullet if you hold up that @ @ @ @ @ @ @ got a little like , you know , not even 1 % of it off damage on it or off .
And he ’ s got like , way more lead in his body .
Mm hmm .
Yeah , and if they like it supposedly other bones and changed direction I think they ’ re counting for the three like the next show .
The tricky thing or go three goes like this .
Then the magic bullet and then the headshot those are those they say those are the only three @ @ @ @ @ @ @ film Oswald lone killer there ’ s only three shots that ’ s all there was time for which is what what when do we get to watch this when do you think this thing is gon na drop now I ’ m really interested you will see it my friend a lot you know all I ’ ll give you a private audience before but it ’ ll be on the world these like these films are all going to kind of go out tick tick tick right in a row .
@ @ @ @ @ @ @ they do but we ’ re nearing the end of everything on on two of them and then one on ones kind of taking on an interesting life because everything going on man if if there is a world still to release films then in like six months a year these films will start rolling out .
There may not be I don ’ t know , man .
Yeah , who knows ?
You have your finger on the pulse .
What ’ s is there going to be a world in @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , I mean , a year from now , I think I think we ’ re still good , but like you could tell over the last 10 years , like , it ’ s like they ’ re there .
It ’ s like waves of like censorship , you know , and it ’ s like , they keep pushing a little harder each time and you know , we ’ re going to come back down , things are gon na be cool for a bit and , you know @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , so let ’ s , I ’ m running out of time here , but let ’ s , okay , let ’ s cover the man .
Is that a military term ?
Down to brass tacks ?
And all my brainwashing from the military has escaped my mind .
Thank goodness .
Oh .
Okay , so I ’ ll just say this that I through kind of Crispin and , you know , working on films with him .
And I met a gentleman named Adam Harford , who @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , as it legends was Allah is legend .
One of my best friends he ’ s he ’ s the founder and kind of creative visionary behind feral house , press .
I ’ m sure you know that he , he wrote upon or edited and assembled and wrote for apocalypse culture , which that is .
Also I read that before I even met him , which was years later that that ’ s just one of the most amazing things to get your eyes open apocalypse culture .
He @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Burton option to make Deadwood , which is one of his greatest films .
starring Johnny Depp .
He did the Lords of chaos .
Adam and I work together on the screenplay for lords of chaos , which is ultimately made just last year you know , that ’ s about that .
The Norwegian church burnings The Satanic that the the the death metal stuff Oh , okay .
Yeah , I ’ ve seen I ’ ve seen the the artwork for that and it looked interesting because death metal @ @ @ @ @ @ @ cup of tea but intrigues me .
Yeah , I did see I ’ m familiar with that .
I that that film ?
I haven ’ t seen it though .
Yeah , so they so I burned down churches you know , it ’ s like , you know , you ’ re on amis and barbed wire .
I option that Back in like 2004 I think it was an Adam .
Adam Parfray and I and Hans field was another director writer , we , we co wrote the @ @ @ @ @ @ @ it and it was , it was a decent film , you know , I ’ m pretty good but then Okay , so I met on par free and he this get this .
He was he was talking to Jay Weidner at the time , who has a lot of interesting stuff .
A lot of you know , he ’ s one of the kind of the godfathers of the Kubrick kind of thing , you know , that Kubrick is , such as in his films on Adam was @ @ @ @ @ @ @ book on Kubrick and I was very interested , I mean , Kubrick is , you know , if you talk to most film , you know , most filmmakers or film people that that know what ’ s going on Kubrick is the master or one of the if there was a Mount Rushmore , you know , Kubrick ’ s is definitely up there , you know .
So .
So , I mean , he ’ s you from 2001 on even before that , but even 2001 on he @ @ @ @ @ @ @ legendary film after another .
But he started talking to Adam perfect start talking to Jay about putting out a book .
It didn ’ t ultimately happen .
But I remember you know , working with Adam every day at the time and Adam , start talking to Christiane Kubrick , Stan Lee ’ s wife , his widow .
And he started talking to her about kind of the theories of that Stanley was putting this messaging in the shining , about the moon landing , you know , I mean @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , but Oh , yeah .
There ’ s a film room 237 .
You ’ ve talked all about , you ’ ve written a book on it .
So your audience probably knows for sure .
But yeah , and I remember and Jay Weiner was a big influence because I was I was , I was red pilling myself .
podcasts in 2012 2013 and winder was making a lot of stuff and he had the Kubrick ’ s Odyssey films .
You know Yeah .
Another great name for @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Rob Agar .
The British dude .
Yeah .
Yeah , he ’ s good .
Yeah , I kind of split with him a little bit on you know , he ’ s he ’ s agar is he ’ s so good .
He ’ s so good at catching symbolism .
I know you ’ re really good at that .
But he doesn ’ t believe in any of the moon landing .
He hasn ’ t played Stanley shot the fake moon landing , you know , he @ @ @ @ @ @ @ He ’ s a second Red Bank .
so Okay , sorry .
I didn ’ t mean to cut you off .
So Adam was talking with my ex wife saying , hey , there ’ s all these theories .
Good .
Sorry .
And , you know , literally I ’ ve been working at the time Adam and I were writing on another screenplay sounds with him every day .
He ’ s talking to Christiane he tells her this I was kind of I ’ ve an ear @ @ @ @ @ @ @ ’ m in the room at the time .
And he asks , he says , you know , these are the theories and this book that ’ s going to be presented .
You know , please let me know if you , you know , should I should I do this ?
Should I put this out ?
She She answered him , which I couldn ’ t hear it , but he told me right after that .
I ’ m not going to tell you that you ’ re @ @ @ @ @ @ @ like , Wow , man , you know , and I ’ ve heard she ’ s denied it .
Denied saying anything like that and stuff , but I was right there , you know , so , Wow , man , that ’ s a big one dude .
And I ’ ve held off that I haven ’ t I haven ’ t said that anywhere .
I haven ’ t talked about this .
Because Adam , Parfray , you know , sadly , he died just like two @ @ @ @ @ @ @ a horrible day .
But he ’ s one of my best friends and he , he died , but he you diabetic and he fell and cracked his head and how is it Sorry to hear though Yes , is rough .
Because he really did , like , you know , back in the 90s and early 2000s conspiracy stuff was way different .
You know , it ’ s a , it was a different vibe back then .
Do you know what I mean ?
When I , yeah @ @ @ @ @ @ @ ’ m , I ’ m , you know , I grew up in 80s and 90s .
And like , I follow this stuff , you know , casually , and it was just sort of a casual , fun , quirky sort of vibe , back then .
And even in the 2000s , but 911 I mean , this is me , being a kid casually sort of hearing this and that and the other being interested .
And then 2001 happened .
And I think it started to take @ @ @ @ @ @ @ know , then you had the YouTube sort of movement .
And that ’ s when things really took off of us talking about the symbolism .
And I think that got real close to home .
And that ’ s why YouTube and Google started censoring all of us and now it seems like there ’ s enough of the cat has been let out of the bag that like now we ’ re really building tangible things and then project addicting things that happen .
And then they happen .
And @ @ @ @ @ @ @ And as you told me , there ’ s stuff in the Kubrick movies that is it ’ s still spilling out these different theories that seemed insane and crazy .
Yeah , maybe that right ?
No , that ’ s absolutely true .
And I think I think , you know , it ’ s Everyone knows that how meticulous of a filmmakers Stanley Kubrick was , and , and he and there ’ s stuff that is still coming out , like this furniture thing that you were talking about @ @ @ @ @ @ @ want to , you know , talk about that for a second to kind of get your audience up to speed , although a lot of them probably heard it , but you know , there ’ s stuff that ’ s still coming out .
I think he packed his films tightly that you that we discovering stuff for decades , really ?
Yeah , that and and what we ’ re talking about here is the the wayfair conspiracy , which you know , we did a whole show on , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ the allegation .
The theory is that people in this group that like abusing kids are abducted them then bidding bidding them off and selling them through wayfair with or without wafers .
acknowledgement .
I don ’ t know .
I don ’ t know how that operates I think they ’ re a third party sort of Amazon II kind of thing maybe .
So maybe they don ’ t even know to in their defense .
But the idea you know , because there ’ s pretty decent evidence I @ @ @ @ @ @ @ 10,000 cabinets with these weird names that are just happened to be on the list of abducted children .
And I talked about it and then I , I can me reach I was like , Hey , man , that ’ s in Clockwork Orange and the Karova milkbar in A Clockwork Orange has human beings women as furniture and that and that ’ s that was the infamously The only set Cooper created for that movie was that was it that was the one and only and sculptures of women .
@ @ @ @ @ @ @ Yeah .
And on the wall because they ’ re at the milk bar , which is where they put different drugs into the milk for them to get off ultraviolent stuff and one of the drugs is dreena chrome Of course , this ties into the adrenochrome idea of why they do this to these poor kids .
And just just think of that , like , who was talking about adrenochrome back in the early 70s It ’ s insane man .
And , and what was the other I posted @ @ @ @ @ @ @ was the clockwork orange and there was another lie .
I shot you a text that you know , and a lot of people don ’ t know this because when in , in the kind of ritual slash orgy scene and Eyes Wide Shut coup , or qubic passed away before that film was released .
And there was sort of some recutting going on by the studio or by God only knows .
And then also some digital figures that had to be put over the , you know , some @ @ @ @ @ @ @ ritual scene .
So some of these figures are covered up but there are I sent you a text that hey , Isaac , man , like , just so you know , everything you ’ re talking about furniture , there .
Kubrick used human beings as furniture for you know the secret society people do have intercourse upon in Eyes Wide Shut .
And he was talking about that knocking Lolita is what you ’ re talking about .
You ’ re talking about Lolita furniture party which ironically , man @ @ @ @ @ @ @ he he hit me with the Lolita things I hadn ’ t seen the movie .
It was on my list of things I had to watch because obviously it ’ s very connected .
Well we talked about and watched it and it was funny because I did the Lolita show a month prior or so to this wayfair thing and I think I even I added a clip of him talking about this furniture this guy who is the handler for the ring of kids stuff .
He ’ s in @ @ @ @ @ @ @ and I think he made a comment on the show like I don ’ t know what the hell he ’ s talking about .
And then this wayfair thing pops .
You sent me a text about the Eyes Wide Shut thing and I was like , I was like really on that scene .
So I I the easiest most convenient way for me to watch eyes .
Watch it was on show Time , so I just streamed it .
And I went right to that scene .
And I @ @ @ @ @ @ @ m like , dude , I don ’ t see it , man .
And then I was like , man , are you sure about that ?
And then you sent me the screenshot .
And , and I saw it with my own eyes .
And I said , holy crap .
So I watched it again on Showtime .
And I sent you the screenshot of where you can see it technically .
But there ’ s one of those digital images covering up three quarters of the body of @ @ @ @ @ @ @ ’ ve got the blu ray four eyes watch , and I ’ m gon na pop it in and watch it because clearly you you saw a version that wasn ’ t Yeah , Showtime , like the most places , I think now back in the time like Kubrick , who you know , passed , as we just said , he was not he had Final Cut overs , film , no one could tell him what to do what to put in and what to take out .
Only @ @ @ @ @ @ @ the requirements of hitting an R rating .
You know , it ’ s something you know , a lot of time investors put in there for years or studios .
So they had to meet that so they had to cover it up .
And they cover all kinds of things like this place .
What ’ s in general kind of released now is the international version of the film , which doesn ’ t have those figures .
Okay , that ’ s the screen grab came from .
So @ @ @ @ @ @ @ and you ’ re sitting watching eyes wide shot , you ’ re not going to see the digital figures that you see here .
Interesting and , and I ’ ll post that image on Instagram at Isaac Weishaupt link in the show notes , all that stuff .
And I ’ ll post that image on there to promote the show here so people can see what we ’ re talking about .
Another thing I wanted to say about the film , though , is like I always hear this @ @ @ @ @ @ @ people say qubic wasn ’ t interested in telling stories about you know , the , any child abduction , you know , pedophilia things .
But that ’ s not true .
They say it wasn ’ t an Eyes Wide Shut at all .
I hear it all the time .
I just read it in this in this book I ’ m reading right now , but I was fortunate .
But that ’ s not true .
There ’ s a big piece in the film right smack dab @ @ @ @ @ @ @ feels like the scene goes on forever .
In fact , where you He goes to where the Tom Cruise ’ s character , Dr. Bill Harford goes to get a , get a mask and and dress for the ritual when it goes this place where you know , under the rainbow , whatever , where the rainbow ends .
And in that scene , you ’ ll recall that this guy is allowing his daughter to be prostituted out to these two other gentlemen .
So there ’ s a big @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Yeah , what what does that do with anything ?
And that ’ s in there for a reason .
It has nothing to do with the rest of the story .
Yeah , in fact , I , I reviewed my book Kubrick ’ s Code on this topic .
And I quickly realized because I wrote the book in 2013 2014 years in 2014 .
And back then we weren ’ t really talking about that this stuff as much and write the theory early on the book is talking about @ @ @ @ @ @ @ few ideas .
There ’ s like this goddess worship thing .
Basically , women involved with ritualistic things and the Seeing you talk about it ’ s the man I got the name in here somewhere .
Yeah , but it ’ s this guy running the rainbow costume shop .
And you see the he sort of he sort of busts in on these two these two guys that are doing things that his young daughter and on the wall you see the eight pointed star v star which ties into @ @ @ @ @ @ @ sort of chases them off .
Then she kind of whispers in Bill ’ s ear something about you should have a ermine cloak lined back or something .
How telling is that comment and I think I did you did you ?
Did you get that ?
I first heard that .
Me personally from Jay Wiedner ’ s thing I think but did you catch that the first time you want you wrote the book ?
Because I didn ’ t think so .
I think it is .
I don @ @ @ @ @ @ @ deep on it though .
How telling is that comment ?
I mean , that ’ s only you can only even hear her if you read the subtitle .
Yeah , I did post it in the book .
I didn ’ t go okay .
You I did go into that it ’ s been so long since I did this .
Because that pattern is royal monarchy .
Yeah , exactly .
That ’ s it ’ s the it ’ s the right it ’ s the it ’ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , the princess and you know , everything along it ’ s like that that ’ s it that ’ s about it telling us I think anything in that film really .
And then , of course , and of course like the the weirdest part .
And I mentioned this in the book is how their daughter Elena , which is another goddess named Elena , you she gets sort of sold to these two old men at the very last shot of the film , and the two old men @ @ @ @ @ @ @ at a table which was shown the book was screenshots .
And that was just something I had found watching it and I was like , that ’ s really bizarre .
You see , you ’ re clearly walk away with these two old men .
And it ’ s absolutely in the toy .
What , what would they be doing at that little , you know , FAO Schwarz store what would they do Yeah , so you ’ re so the guy that said that there ’ s no @ @ @ @ @ @ @ to watch that again .
It runs that stuff runs throughout Kubrick ’ s career .
Another thing that probably most people I said would not know is that right after Kubrick ’ s either first or second film , he almost made a film called burning secret .
Have you heard about this ?
script exists and they they just found it like a year ago and someone ’ s you know , stuffed in some attic somewhere .
Kubrick wrote a wrote a script called burning secret .
And it ’ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ has kind of been ousted from his family , I think and he is down on his luck and he ’ s trying to , he finds a wealthy woman that he ’ s going to try and woo and sort of like the reverse of Lolita , and Lolita You know , there ’ s Humbert Humbert tries to you know , tries to get with the Shelley Winters character , but in this burning secret , he uses her 10 year old Son nine or 10 year old son to get @ @ @ @ @ @ @ to ultimately marry .
And then some weird stuff happens between the boy and the man .
So this thing like sexual things .
So this and then he in fact , he couldn ’ t make burning secret when he wanted to make it .
Beef .
It was just too controversial is too tough to touch .
I mean , I can ’ t believe he made Lolita when he made Lolita .
That seems outrageous what we ’ re like my parents are of that generation .
What the hell @ @ @ @ @ @ @ watching Lolita man like that ?
Oh , yeah .
And there ’ s a clearly a scene where they clearly imply that they have sex Humbert Humbert , who ’ s like , I don ’ t know , 60 and movie and the girl was supposedly like 15 or 16 or something .
They do .
And then there ’ s a scene right before where you know , the character that Peter Sellers played , he goes to Humbert Humbert at that hotel , and he basically tries to sell @ @ @ @ @ @ @ right ?
Yeah .
He uses sort of , I mean , we load it , we can watch it now .
Yeah , with the language that we know .
And he ’ s basically a handler and he ’ s kind of like , Hey , I can hook you into whatever it is you want .
And you brought a real lovely young lady here with you .
Or , like young , good looking girls or something weird .
Kubrick ’ s been on .
He ’ s been @ @ @ @ @ @ @ ’ s kind of an all in a lot of his films anyway .
Yeah .
Yeah .
People are just waking up to it .
So I ’ ve got about five minutes here .
Let ’ s wrap it up .
But I mean , go ahead .
Yeah .
So okay , so so koeberg interesting character and Eyes Wide Shut .
Clearly .
It said it was it he said it was his favorite film .
Did did he act was he quoted as saying that ?
Yeah , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ book .
I ’ d have to double check the reference .
I know it .
Let ’ s put it this way .
He wanted to make Eyes Wide Shut as a second film .
So it ’ s it was 50 years in the making .
It went through You know , Steve Martin was almost cast in the film .
He almost did it with , you know , Woody Allen and Mia Farrow .
There ’ s rumors that he was going to make it with Alec Baldwin and @ @ @ @ @ @ @ it with Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman .
But it was it was extremely important to him .
The , the author Arthur Schnitzler was a contemporary of Sigmund Freud .
Did you know that ?
in Vienna , the he wrote the dream novella .
You ’ re right , Tom , no .
Valid , yeah , Dream story or whatever .
Well , he was a contemporary of Sigmund Freud , Vienna , and Vienna .
And Freud was a huge fan of Arthur Schnitzler , the writer of the @ @ @ @ @ @ @ .
And Freud is important here because he was always talking about sex and the the ego and the mind and all these weird sort of connections .
Kubrick was obsessed with Freud to , but Freud would not .
He wrote a letter that you can read , he wrote a letter to Arthur schnitzel and said , I can ’ t meet you because I see you as my doppelganger .
And we can ’ t meet because one or both of us will die if we need actual letter from @ @ @ @ @ @ @ the book that I was watching , I was based on this this .
I when you said that quote , I only asked as I know , it was , I hadn ’ t heard of Kubrick say this was his favorite film ever made , but I believe it because he was trying to make that film for 50 years .
And , and thank , thankfully he was able to write before he died .
Because that ’ s a really it ’ s a , you could make a @ @ @ @ @ @ @ that you all can see when it comes out and probably in , you know , six to 12 months is when it will be but that you can make the case that it ’ s sort of a summation of all of his work , you know , and it ’ s really trying to , you know , we ’ ve been when we ’ re still uncovering this film , I mean , when you first saw what did what did you think of it when you first saw his @ @ @ @ @ @ @ ’ s funny .
I ’ ve got this range relationship with the darkness .
I saw it when it came out because I really liked Kubrick growing up a huge fan of Clockwork Orange .
And not that I ’ ve seen every movie in his catalogue , I just love the shining Clockwork Orange Full Metal Jacket .
Growing up .
I watched those a million times as a kid .
And Eyes Wide Shut came out , I watched I want to say I watched in the theater , but @ @ @ @ @ @ @ .
But I watched it either way .
And I remember everyone around me was like , That movie was such a snooze fest .
I was like , I don ’ t know , I really liked it .
I don ’ t know why , you know , it was long and dry and dialog filled .
And I ’ ve seen it many times even before I started doing podcasting and all the books crap .
And you know , to this day is one of my favorite movies .
@ @ @ @ @ @ @ ’ s every time you want it ’ s , you know , every time you watch that film you can get you pick up one or two or three or four interesting new things that you hadn ’ t noticed .
Yeah , it ’ s on film .
It ’ s strange .
And it was of course , you know , Kubrick passed right after showing the Warner Brothers Exactly .
And Tom and Nicole .
It His rough cut , Kubrick was notorious for cutting and re editing his @ @ @ @ @ @ @ theater .
There was a you know , the shining was out and he called all the prints back , cut a scene and send them all back out again .
That was after was in the theaters .
Oh , yeah .
And he did that with a clockwork orange too .
So he was notorious for that .
I mean , huh .
So are you Yeah , are you making a So just to clarify , are you making a documentary on like , all of Kubrick ’ s works @ @ @ @ @ @ @ sort of themed What do you What ’ s that looking like ?
It ’ s it ’ s exactly that it ’ s it well , it ’ s not all of his work but his Eyes Wide Shut and kind of looking at it from this these angles that we ’ re discussing today .
Oh , strictly Eyes exactly what it is .
So we don ’ t even we don ’ t have title yet .
All your audience will know .
Because , you know , it ’ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ ’ ll definitely let your audience know what the title is .
And when it ’ s coming out , you know , if there is a world released films and In six to 12 months , if you ’ re still in love it , I love it .
I can ’ t wait to see that .
That ’ s incredible , man .
Yeah , appreciate on and , you know , let ’ s , let ’ s continue talking .
Yeah man I could talk to you all @ @ @ @ @ @ @ such good stuff .
Yeah .
Okay so so um I ’ ll put how can how do you want the audience to sort of keep up with you in your work in this documentary ?
How do you want to make that happen you want to ?
I don ’ t I generally like try to it ’ s like every one of my films has a website and I have like two different companies I release films through that I own but I guess one of my companies is Zu33 dot @ @ @ @ @ @ @ three.com has info on our films .
We did another film called mode or most people pronounce it and you know , move but it ’ s mo Robert Moog invented the synthesizer pioneer .
That ’ s a film I did with Huntsville stat .
So he had run a company but it ’ ll be there .
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On today’s episode of the Conspiracy Theories and Unpopular Culture podcast we are joined by ANOTHER special guest- this time from Hollywood! Ryan Page, the filmmaker who gave us the documentary about Tool’s Maynard Keenan’s vineyard “Blood Into Wine”, comedy “Queens of Country”, Crispin Glover’s “What Is It?” and more, joins us to talk about some new exciting projects! We go through his history with Crispin Glover, we swap ghost hunting stories (*one of his stories is pretty mind blowing), Oliver Stone, a new JFK doc with the REAL Zapruder footage, and we wrap up with a dive into Kubrick! We get into the human furniture in “Eyes Wide Shut”, the child abuse prevalent in the storyline, a Kubrick project to expose child abuse that never came to fruition and some news on his exciting “Eyes Wide Shut” documentary dropping in the future!!
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Kubrick’s Eye Wide Shut & Furniture, JFK Zapruder, Ghost Hun…
SPEAKERS
Isaac Weishaupt, Ryan Page
Ryan Page 00:03
runs that stuff runs throughout Kubrick’s career. Another thing that probably most people I say would not know is that right after Kubrick’s either first or second film, he almost made a film called burning secret. Have you heard about this? No, this script exists and they they just found it like a year ago and someone’s you know, stuffed in some attic somewhere. goobric wrote a wrote a script called burning secret. And it’s a story about this Baron who’s kind of been ousted from his family, I think, and he is down on his luck and he’s trying to, he finds a wealthy woman that he’s going to try and woo and sort of like the reverse of Lolita, and Lolita you know, those Humbert Humbert tries to you know, tries to get with the Shelley Winters character, but in this burning secret uses her 10 year old son nine or 10 year old son to get to the woman Trying to ultimately marry.
Isaac Weishaupt 01:05
The hits keep coming. The hits keep coming. I recently did an interview with Britney Spears, ex husband, Jason Alexander. And now we’re going back to back with another big hitter. I got Ryan page a filmmaker. Another Hollywood big shot. We’ve been talking for some time now I consider him a friend. And he is the man who gave us documentaries about tools video vineyard with Maynard Keenan called blood into wine, the comedy queens of country. Crispin Glover’s What is it and much more. He joins us today to talk about some very exciting projects. And your get ready strap in this one’s gonna blow your mind it blew my mind as you’ll hear on the show. First of all go through a little bit of his history. What got him into filmmaking? How he met Crispin Glover. we swap a couple of ghost hunting stories and his story blows mine out of the water. And he sent me a photo of the injury incurred by his pair. And I’ll push that on to the Instagram at Isaac Weishaupt link in the show notes as always like and subscribe. Now, and then we’ll go through we’ll go We’ll talk a little bit about Oliver Stone. And then we’re going to get into some wild stuff. We’re gonna talk about a new JFK documentary with the real Zapruder footage, not that fake news Zapruder footage you probably saw that I saw. I thought that was it. I thought I saw it as a pruder footage. Turns out we didn’t. And my man here, he’s gonna give it to you. He’s gonna make a documentary about it. So he’s gonna give you details on that. Then finally, we wrap up with the craziest Fighting, we dive into the mind of Stanley Kubrick once more. As you know, I wrote the book Cooper’s code. And we talked about 2001 A Space Odyssey we talked about the shining, we talked about A Clockwork Orange. And we talked about Eyes Wide Shut, which is what Ryan is here to drop the knowledge on us for. We get into the concepts of human furniture. Yes, indeed. He thought the wayfair story was over. No, we already did an hour on wayfair a week or two ago. 2020 is moving so fast. I can’t keep up. But yeah, the there’s some child abuse, very prevalent in the storyline of Eyes Wide Shut as we discuss. And then, you know, Ryan’s gonna tell you about this project. Kubrick was working to expose child abuse. Wild stuff on today’s show, and then if you if you weren’t Mind blown yet, he’s gonna drop some exciting news. A documentary that he’s gonna be working on here, and I’ll let you listen for that. You’re gonna enjoy it. So, again if you want to check out Ryan pages IMDb, it’s up. I’ve got the link in the show notes. I got the link on Illuminati watcher calm. And let’s, without further ado, let’s get into it. All right, yeah, yeah. On our let’s, let’s have a chat today. Let’s talk about some things. I think primarily, I want to I want to talk about your latest with qubic. Eyes Wide Shut that kind of stuff that seems to be bubbling up again Vancouver’s back at it. What’s Uh, what’s the latest one?
Ryan Page 04:38
I Well, you know, thanks for having me on Isaac. I appreciate it. love your show, man. And I heard you this started kind of when I heard you talking about the whole thing with furniture, you know, and you were starting to kind of get into stuff and i and i that triggers something I’m I’m a filmmaker as you know. I’m I’m and not remember. Really many people know this, but I’ve been working secretly on a film on Eyes Wide Shut my eyes just for those that don’t know me out there. I
Isaac Weishaupt 05:09
just do a brief introduction, man. I’ll let you introduce yourself to everybody.
Ryan Page 05:13
Sure, okay. Okay. My name is Ryan page everybody. Hello out there I am, I’m a filmmaker mainly a documentarian, I, I’m director and a producer. I got my starts with a film. Well, it’s kind of a people may find it interesting. I’ll be brief about it. But I wrote a screenplay was a high school. In high school. I didn’t know anything. I was just I didn’t know how the system work that was just a high school senior, you know, 17 years old, and I wrote a script. It was called a single bound. And the guy I co wrote a script with we said, Hey, what do we want to do? You know, we’ve been in. We’ve been making little videos and short films and things and we wanted to send it out to an actor wanted to kind of up our game and see if we could get it made as a film. So we sent it to an actor, one actor, we only have one script to an actor’s representatives and that actors Crispin Glover, Crispin, hellion. Glover. That’s his real middle name hellion. And for those that don’t know him automatically, he’s pretty incredible artists and actor is he was played George McFly and Back to the Future, McFly. He was in River’s Edge. That’s an absolute classic from back in the day. Charlie’s Angels. And a lot of really interesting Wild at Heart, David Lynch. Crispin was, you know, very interesting, eccentric actor. We really liked him. So we sent the script his representatives. We got lucky. One of his agents called me back on my home line where I’m living with my family, my mom and dad, you know, and he said, Hey, do you want to make our client and offer a monetary offer? And of course, you know, didn’t have two nickels to rub together. You know, but I kind of bullshitted my way through it and somehow made an offer money offer illegal money offer. Luckily Crispin called back and he’s, he called me my mom answered the phone. Yeah, here, answered it. And he said he really liked the script, and that he wanted to direct it. That sounded interesting. I mean, I, of course, I wanted to talk to you more about it. He had an idea for it where all the characters in the film were portrayed by Down syndrome actors. That sounded interesting. The story wasn’t about Down syndrome at all.
Isaac Weishaupt 07:41
And that’s curious because that’s a that’s a big theme right now is having, you know, people have, I don’t know what you want to call it a category, a label, a demographic playing the roles that are intended for, kind of that’s kind of the big thing now is that all these voice actors that play you know, black actors on the So they’re all quitting because they’re not black now because you’re so
Ryan Page 08:03
right. Yeah, that this has become a thing and I think Crispin saw that way back then, you know, this is the year 2000. Right before 2000 it was it was like 1998 or something, but he he had just done a film called what’s Eating Gilbert Grape? Have you seen that film?
Isaac Weishaupt 08:19
You know, it’s on my short list of movies that have to watch I love Leo DiCaprio right? He was in that right?
Ryan Page 08:25
Yeah. But he he portrays you know, mentally challenged. Brought sibling of Johnny Depp in this film. I really hate crushes it you know like really solid work.
Isaac Weishaupt 08:38
an afro is one of my favorite actors of all time. He’s so amazing. I don’t know why he only got that was it an Academy Award for revenue which is my least favorite movie is?
Ryan Page 08:48
I think it’s saying they always give the Academy Award like for you once you crush it, they get it you don’t get you don’t win that year. You win like you’re, you know, they it’s like a makeup thing. But you Crispin was in it with, you know, Leonardo and he really likes his How could you not like his performance but but he just had a kind of a bee in his bonnet about you know, having these actors, he thinks that they have a they portray a lot, I guess like I don’t. It’s almost like they’re not acting. It’s almost like they’re in it and that’s kind of what he wanted. So we kind of Crispin did some rewriting on our script and we ended up making this film. It’s called What is it? He’s been touring it around for the last 20 years, I think. He goes, he goes to the certain towns and he appears with the film. And as he calls it, Crispin Helen Glover’s big slideshow, and he does some readings and it’s a it’s a cool night and the films out there. So that’s how I got my starts, you know, couldn’t have been with a more interesting actor. David Lynch was executive producer on that. Film so it kind of was my entree into Hollywood. I mean,
Isaac Weishaupt 10:02
I say, oh, that David Lynch, huh?
Ryan Page 10:05
David Lynch executives the I actually got him to, I didn’t know him. I knew I knew that he and Crispin like each other. So I went to David on the set is on a set of Lost Highway where I met him so that’s, that’ll that’ll tie it to a year but I went to that set and I met David and I said, Hey, we’re making this film with Chris, you know, Christmas directing it and and he’s a Crispin also Yeah, he so he signed on right then and there and that was that. So that was kind of a good way but I you know, the thing is, like, I also man, I’m not a fan of Hollywood, like I wasn’t into it. I’m there to make interesting films. And I, I love you know, documentaries. I always saw myself as a nonfiction filmmaker, so I went kind of that way. I’m kind of like, you know, Werner Hertzog is my favorite film director of all time, you know, do you know him? No, that’s a trip. Gotta check him out. I know you’re kind of like a I know some like you’re kind of iffy on like the artsy films as you call them. But But Hertzog is the man, he’s the he’s a true legend. Like if you hear the volcano is going off, he’s going in that volcano to shoot, shoot top of that volcano. He’s directed actors at gunpoint in the middle of the Amazon.
Isaac Weishaupt 11:22
Holy moly. Yeah, I’ll check that out. For sure, man. Yeah, I’m really into documentaries. I watch like horror movies. You think Grizzly man. Is that the documentary about the bear that eats the dude?
Ryan Page 11:33
Yeah. Okay, that’s his film. Really. It’s very, you know, kind of to tonic. You know, he’s great speaking style. He’s hilarious, but it’s just he’s a visionary really, but until you’ve seen that, you’ve seen a Hertzog film.
Isaac Weishaupt 11:47
Yeah, that movie is incredible. Man. I you can’t you can’t forget that one. For sure. Y’all check out his other stuff. Most definitely. And you did. You did blood into wine. Right. That’s another that’s a great documentary.
Ryan Page 11:59
Thanks, man. Thanks Yeah, I did a I did blood to wine that’s a film on tool and a perfect circle frontman Maynard James Keenan making wine in Arizona. I’m from Arizona. I live part time in Arizona, with my family. But um, yeah, that’s I’m really proud of that film. That’s probably every time you make a new set up to make a documentary, you have at least my approach to documentary you can’t go in with kind of affirm. This is the way the film is going to be kind of, you have to have a, you have your idea and it’s fleshed out and you’re not going in willy nilly, but you have to be open to where the film wants to take you. If you try and push too hard down whatever way you you thought, originally you’ll you’ll make a bad film. It’s a guarantee. Because so you know, life happens, things happen. You have to kind of just keep your eyes and ears open and the story will sort of tell you wherever it wants to go. And that in my approach,
Isaac Weishaupt 12:57
that movie was interesting to you know, see me Maynard Keenan First off, because like, he’s not a very public figure. He shocked me honestly, like, he shocked me because I didn’t know how he was. I don’t know. It sounds really stupid and naive. And it was so normal and sort of laid back and kind of a cool dude. And, you know, he reminded me of Andy Kaufman a bit where like, you can’t tell if he’s being intense and serious like he wants to punch you or if he’s like, just joking and messing with you.
Ryan Page 13:24
You know, it’s only when I when when I was in high school here. I don’t I don’t talk a lot about when I was in high school but just chatting now but when I was in high school again, I we heard that wow, the dude from tool lead singer of the tool, Maynard Keenan moved to Jerome, which is a ghost town. We already moved to Jerome, Arizona, and he got up and he had got breast implants. That’s what we heard ever. How’s the rumor around school like Dude, that’s weird, man. That’s cool, whatever. So he’s serious figure living like Dracula up on a mountain. You know, you probably haven’t been through that part of Arizona right? Ah because you It’s a town of he lives and makes wine in this town called Jerome which is an old mining town. And it’s maybe if there’s like 200 people there. That’s more than I thought there would be, you know,
Isaac Weishaupt 14:12
did Ghost Adventures do a show there?
Ryan Page 14:15
Sure did. Yeah,
Isaac Weishaupt 14:17
that just came to me for no reason.
Ryan Page 14:19
We were sitting there at the same time they were so like, there’s not many. I mean, yeah, it’s such a small place when there’s another film crew in town. You definitely know it, you know? So we shot there for like, over a year and those guys came through. They were shooting at our hotel. We stayed at the Jerome grand with spooky ass hotel and it’s not cool. Yeah. I’ll share with you this. Like one day we woke up. We’re heading to go down to Maynard’s vineyards which are just gorgeous on the side of this mountain there. And like, there’s this commotion in the van in front of me. What’s my film crew I start honking the horn. I could see the commotion. Oh my god. Get out what’s going on, man? It’s my whole crew. They’re like, dude, Ben is having a bit of a problem. What’s the problem? They bring Ben out of the car. He’s our second cameraman. He turned right lift up a shirt. And he’s got this. ripped down his back and opened up and I could see that his rib cage, like three or four inches of his rib cage. Dude, what the hell man get to a hospital now Dude, I think was a gash like I’ve never seen Well, he woke up and the whole night did take a you know, to use the facility use the restroom. And something shoved him into the bathtub. A ghost shoved him into the bathtub. And on the nozzle. It’s ripped open. His back is right down. What?
Isaac Weishaupt 15:47
Yeah, they were trying to make him the goddess sacrifice like Whitney Houston. Maybe.
Ryan Page 15:53
We checked it. We turned around. We checked out a hotel man. I mean, I was out of that hotel.
Isaac Weishaupt 15:58
Was that the same hotel the ghosts adventure guys were in.
Ryan Page 16:01
Yes, yes. That wasn’t that when they were there but that’s where they were. Yeah. Without they already been there and shot. That’s incredible man. I mean, this took, I mean, I could it was the nastiest thing I’ve ever seen. Oh dude, he wouldn’t he wouldn’t go to the hospital he shot a full day out Maynard’s vineyards we couldn’t get them to go. So major props to Ben. He killed it. He crushed it that day, but
Isaac Weishaupt 16:23
Holy Moly dude,
Ryan Page 16:24
shooting we took him down. He had like, hundred staples in his back.
Isaac Weishaupt 16:29
It’s crazy. So that’s wild, dude. Yeah, and that’s a man. As I’ve talked about the past, like I used to do, I did ghost hunting before it was on TV with a guy met in the military. He was like, you gotta go do this ghost hunting thing. And I was like, dude, you’re crazy, man. This is like in 99. And
Ryan Page 16:45
tell me about that. What what I’m interested in that’s up to like, what I really yeah,
Isaac Weishaupt 16:49
so like my buddy was. His name was Tito. And he was he was a crazy dude. He was a staff sergeant that I worked under. And we used to talk about all kinds of wild stuff cuz he was crazy. crazy crazy dude. Anyway, he um you know, you know in the military like you kind of just hang out with everybody like everyone from work just hangs out all the time. And he was just like telling me he was hanging out with these a Utah ghost hunter society and this is back in like, you know, in the early internet stages where every website you went to was like you know real garbage text and like crappy pictures, you know? And he was like they had a website and he was like, check this out man and like he showed me a bunch of pictures and they had like the sound files you could download of the VPS and he explained the whole thing to me and I was like, dude, you guys are crazy man and and I went with a mom like three ghost towns and the one was like a high school where some kids don’t die or something this is before you really check things out on the internet. See if they were true. You just kind of went with everything people told you. Another place we went to was like this, this like fellows field out the middle of nowhere that was haunted. And and and we would get weird things and I was just and I saw in that in that in that high school it was dark in there and we had a video camera with a What do you call it the green shit with the infrared camera or whatever call it
Ryan Page 18:12
the night vision
Isaac Weishaupt 18:13
night vision and these guys were just standing there watching I’m like what are you guys seen man and and I look on the little viewfinder screen as you watch it in real time he’s like just stand here and watch this for like 10 minutes you’re gonna see orbs floating by and I sir shit man I saw orbs floating by that you couldn’t see with your visible naked eye. And then when I watched my I’ll give you like a brief summation of there was like a talk all day. Then we had like a I called another orb on a video that I took. Then we went to my girlfriend’s home and did an MVP. And my girlfriend was in the backyard with her mom. And we were listening to the EP the playback and it said we clearly heard it say because we you know you walk around you’re like what’s your And it was like James very clearly said, James. And then like, we heard some other couple weird things and I yell out the back porch. I’m like, Hey, you guys know anybody named James. And it was her. My girlfriend’s grandfather who died. And I was like,
19:17
What?
Isaac Weishaupt 19:18
And then we and then more crazy things happen. We started having there was like an intercom thing in this house. And it was like going off and telling her telling her, Hey, come down the basement. It’s me. And it’s crazy. And God, she’s like, Hey, are you messaging me? There’s someone trying to tell me to go down in the basement because someone’s down there. And I said, What? And I said, Ah, and I freaked out. We went home and, and you didn’t
Ryan Page 19:43
go to the basement?
Isaac Weishaupt 19:45
Yeah, we checked it all out. And there’s nothing out there. And
Ryan Page 19:48
if you had to dig for it or something, you know. Yeah, it was buried. Maybe someone buried I don’t know.
Isaac Weishaupt 19:54
It could be it could be asked to check it out.
Ryan Page 19:58
Yeah, I don’t know. Weird I don’t know where I stand also, I was gonna say the coop one of the coolest things about being a documentarian is you do get to experience all these different worlds you know, so I’ve, I got hired once to. There’s this house in San Diego called the Whaley house, which is allegedly haunted. And we got to spend the night in there allegedly. Regis Philbin, I guess did it in like the 70s or something. He spent the night in there and he got so scared he ran out and so we spent the night of this this house the Whaley house, and I didn’t feel a thing, but and it was just kind of a general vibe but nothing really. But then one time my wife and my two kids, we were moved into this house. It was in California and my wife mother had just passed so it was kind of a bad time for the rough time for all of us really but we just moved in this house and at night I started as the first time ever in my life. I felt anything like it but I would feel this. This presence kind of that would move up on me every night very I wasn’t liking it. Okay. I feel like getting real close to my Basically when I’d open up I have spooky spooky I I started thinking maybe it’s my mother my wife’s mother which is pretty neat so but out but then I started then I started to get kind of a negative vibe so then I had a friend over who’s one of my wife and I are friends and second she walked in the house we’ve not said a word to her she said oh there’s a you have a entity that’s right over there. said really what is it what is a wizard? Is it Oh, she’s long hair long black hair. This and that. So I mean just crazy stuff. Yeah, there was a house you know?
Isaac Weishaupt 21:41
Yeah, that weird stuff and I and I believe in like mediums and stuff. Like I think there’s Surely there’s crooks out there that like play it up. Like they can do these things. But there’s for sure people that have like empathic abilities. And I mean, clearly the CIA spent a ton of money researching this stuff. So you’re absolutely manual. Yeah, okay, so we were talking about your documentary with with Maynard which is really cool. And so I think we’re pretty caught up so so
Ryan Page 22:10
yeah, we’re all yeah. So, you know, I am I then I can’t Yeah. Okay, so at that point, I started I linked up with Oliver Stone. Who I you know, I, of course I think he’s a great filmmaker JFK was really a seminal film for me. I saw it. Also in high school. This is like the high school hour over here, but I saw that film and I was like, that’s what really got my eyes opened up.
Isaac Weishaupt 22:36
Yeah, great movie.
Ryan Page 22:38
It’s really I mean, just on a just on a filmmaking from a filmmaking standpoint, it’s just a tour de force. You know what I mean? It’s editing what what he what he did what he and his editors did on that film is not I haven’t seen it duplicated. It’s
Isaac Weishaupt 22:53
just Yeah, see, that’s cool. Man. I wish I could see through your lens because I there’s I don’t understand What it takes to make a film I just know the final product and like yeah, that was cool. I like to
23:04
think of all that. I mean, I think they’re every medium that you can shoot on he used on that film just like black and white old film stocks. Super 8 like he’s just and he’s cut it all up just crazy. It’s, it was the first film is really one of the most influential films I can think of, you know, but uh, so I got to I got to meet all of her. And this was kind of interesting because it was right before the JFK 50th anniversary. So we started Um, so I met Oliver and then I think through him I met we got linked up with this couple. You know, what does Zapruder film is obviously you’ve seen it
Isaac Weishaupt 23:49
is that the one that Bill Cooper always used in his lectures where he claims that the guy in the front seat actually turns around and shoots him in the head. I think that’s the Zapruder?
Ryan Page 24:00
That didn’t happen. But the weird thing about the Zapruder film, okay, so there’s the National Archives, I think it is opened up for investigators to come in and make a 8k copy of this brooder film. If you’re a serious researcher, you can kind of come in, we’re opening this up for a couple days or whatever. Well, only one couple took advantage of it. And they live in California, and they came in they made this beautiful this pristine copy of the Zapruder film, and I got to come in and see it. And let me tell you this 99.99% of Americans have never seen a brooder film because what I saw that day is not what you see is not the same film that is we’ve seen for the last 15 years. I wait a minute wait, let’s
Isaac Weishaupt 24:50
back up here. So because I’ve thought I swear I’ve seen like you know, you Google it or whatever,
Ryan Page 24:56
seen it but that it’s been edited really well. Yeah, yeah and I, okay, that’s that kind of started my journey because I this couple, I sat down they showed me this pristine, beautiful 8k copy of the Zapruder film, it’s probably got four or five extra seconds in it. Okay. And the first is there’s a there’s a router film when it was and I started to investigate into that. Okay, and we met a gentleman named Dino bruzzone. He’s a pretty pretty up there in age by now, but he worked at the Hawkeye that’s what it was called. I’m trying to remember what’s call it’s called the Hawkeye was he worked at a place where the CIA and FBI they all came into their photography work, okay, like they had this stuff developed and packaged up or whatever. I think it’s on the it’s definitely on the east coast. Do you know Bruce Gianni, ran that place in 1963. And we have them on film talking about how in ninth and November 22 1963, he was called into work. At night, he rolls down to work. And there’s some some gentlemen dressed in black, and they have a brief couple briefcases full of stuff and they open it up and they say, we’re going to develop this film and we’re going to mess around with this film. You know, we’re going to, we’re going to, you ended up spending the weekend cutting that film into what was presented to us later. And then it was sold to Life magazine, and no one even saw for about a year or something. And then they finally showed the film. So he added that film, we have long films, and this is very, he’s sharp as a tack. He’s the he’s like your grandpa is he? He’s just entirely believable irrespective. Is there a way for us to see the original Zapruder or is this like a secret lock? And that’s all part of this process, a process? You know, ultimately out? We’re going to it’s going to come out on film, so
Isaac Weishaupt 26:51
Oh, so I’m going to come out someday here.
Ryan Page 26:54
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it is. Yeah. Well, that’s what we’re, we’re doing. We’re making the film now. So that’s one of the I’m kind of involved in like three different films right now. There’s that film that and then the then kind of, and that film was also about them the making of Oliver Stone’s film JFK. So that’s also part of that and everything that’s going on in the 50 years. But also, you know, it’s like, I think what, you know, if you think about the JFK assassination, I think, you know, most of Americans pretty much understand that that there was some fire that went on that day. That you know, the facts are there it’s it’s a there’s it, staunch people up but you know, holding on tightly to the odds while being the lone assassin, but it’s, most people I think, understand that he wasn’t. So I you know, I don’t want to make a film that’s, you know, sings to the choir either. So this film I was going to have, you know, a bunch of everything that’s happened since that time because that really is in terms of like our lifetime. We weren’t alive then. But you know, our These two couple generations we’re living in right now. That’s really when it kicked off. Wouldn’t you say?
Isaac Weishaupt 28:04
Like, yeah, absolutely. I think the 40s and 60s there were, like, huge moment huge. Like, I don’t know what you call it the same like 2001. You know, it was like, things changed. And, you know, now, what’s the, I don’t want to I don’t want to harp on too long. But like, Is there something in the original Zapruder just to double back on that? There’s something that like indicates there’s someone that did this
Ryan Page 28:30
thing? Yeah, well, you see what you see, in the, when you see the original film, what was purported to be the Zapruder film straight out of Abraham’s Zapruder’s camera. You saw a bunch of weird jaggedy edit cuts and like little time snaps and all kinds of stuff. Well, of course, when you see this other film, you see shots reining in Okay, you see shots bouncing off sidewalk and build them. And if you studied the JFK assassination for more than a couple days You understand that there was such a tight timeline in which the in which the bullets were coming down on them that there was only time for three bullets with the mannlicher carcano weapon that Oswald allegedly used, you know, he had to rack that stuff back and that take that to two seconds. He could only get off three shots in those. I think it was six seconds on a moving target. On a moving target going moving away from him at this weird angle. I still of course, they don’t let you stand in the window at the sixth floor museum with that’s incredible after all these years, you can’t stand in the window and catch the shot for yourself. They don’t let you do that.
Isaac Weishaupt 29:40
You’re right my buddy or just just went there and he told me that same thing as a white
Ryan Page 29:46
man like, come on. Come on. Anyway, so yeah, when you see the full film, you realize that there you see the shot there rain and down. They must have had, I think I think Oliver is right and other Those that have said the same thing that there was a triangulation of crossfire. They know exactly what they were doing that day. The ones that I mean, this is and this fact I don’t hear many people talking about this, but okay, if you can only have the three shots, right and the six seconds or whatever it was like governor Connolly, the governor of Texas is sitting right in front of Kennedy in this. There’s this, you know, three rows of limo right. And Kennedy is in the back with his wife and then in the front or governor or and on the second row, our governor, Governor Connolly and his wife and then a limo driver and somewhere some sort of secret service agent. Well, Governor Connally was, you know, he he had he was hit by all kinds of he was hit by bullets you shot. They didn’t when they took him to hospital, he lived he survived it. Like candy. What was that? Did you hear that? (**Ryan is referencing a strange loud banging sound from Isaac’s studio) Yeah, that was
30:58
like really amazing.
Isaac Weishaupt 31:00
Yeah, that’s not so bad It wasn’t as loud on my end not alarmingly.
Ryan Page 31:05
Like really loud but it sounds like it was either really loud lightning Thunder or like aliens are landing on your street. But anyway governor Connolly no one talks about its governor Connolly they left the left a lot of the lead inside them like he went on when he lived his life out and he died. He died with that lead from that day inside him. When you see the bullet that they say is the you know, the magic bullet that goes bounces all around in that limo and and does all these makes all these wounds. There’s only like a little sliver of something off it. You know, when you’re in the military you you’ve seen a bullet hit things haven’t, I’m sure yeah. Let’s go through they’re pretty messed up right. Steam that went that it all these things that hidden bone and get ricocheting off and going in there. Well, Governor Connolly died with more lead in his body alone than is missing off of that bullet. Really Totally both that’s alleged to have him I don’t hear anyone saying this but I’m like this is like it’s like it’s a game over what’s he’s right like the the pristine bullet which is the only bullet that went through Kennedy Oh Kennedy had two shots he took like a tricky or they say it went through the back but he obviously took a frontal shot to like is not as tricky and then he took the headshot but the magic bullet the ledge magical is the only bullet that is alleged to have hit con went through Connolly and Kennedy. And it made like eight or something different wounds when like ding ding ding and bouncing. Well if that bullet if you hold up that bullet, and it’s only got a little like, you know, not even 1% of it off damage on it or off. And he’s got like, way more lead in his body. Mm hmm.
Isaac Weishaupt 32:49
Yeah, and if they like it supposedly other bones and changed direction I think
Ryan Page 32:55
they’re counting for the three like the next show. The tricky thing or go three goes like this. Then the magic bullet and then the headshot those are those they say those are the only three if you believe in is a brooder film Oswald lone killer there’s only three shots that’s all there was time for which is
Isaac Weishaupt 33:12
what what when do we get to watch this when do you think this thing is gonna drop now I’m really interested
Ryan Page 33:18
you will see it my friend a lot you know all I’ll give you a private audience before but it’ll be on the world these like these films are all going to kind of go out tick tick tick right in a row.
Isaac Weishaupt 33:32
Let’s take a while and
Ryan Page 33:34
they do but we’re nearing the end of everything on on two of them and then one on ones kind of taking on an interesting life because everything going on man if if there is a world still to release films then in like six months a year these films will start rolling out. There may not be I don’t know, man. Yeah, who knows? You have your finger on the pulse. What’s is there going to be a world in which films can be released? Yeah,
Isaac Weishaupt 34:01
I mean, a year from now, I think I think we’re still good, but like you could tell over the last 10 years, like, it’s like they’re there. It’s like waves of like censorship, you know, and it’s like, they keep pushing a little harder each time and you know, we’re going to come back down, things are gonna be cool for a bit and, you know, scary man. Well, okay, so let’s, I’m running out of time here, but let’s, okay, let’s cover the man.
34:25
Is that a military term? Down to brass tacks?
Isaac Weishaupt 34:30
And all my brainwashing from the military has escaped my mind. Thank goodness. Oh.
Ryan Page 34:36
Okay, so I’ll just say this that I through kind of Crispin and, you know, working on films with him. And I met a gentleman named Adam Harford, who became one of my best friends Adam, as it legends was Allah is legend. One of my best friends he’s he’s the founder and kind of creative visionary behind feral house, press. I’m sure you know that he, he wrote upon or edited and assembled and wrote for apocalypse culture, which that is. Also I read that before I even met him, which was years later that that’s just one of the most amazing things to get your eyes open apocalypse culture. He put out the Edward book that Tim Burton option to make Deadwood, which is one of his greatest films. starring Johnny Depp. He did the Lords of chaos. Adam and I work together on the screenplay for lords of chaos, which is ultimately made just last year you know, that’s about that. The Norwegian church burnings The Satanic that the the the death metal stuff Oh, okay. Yeah, I’ve seen
Isaac Weishaupt 35:40
I’ve seen the the artwork for that and it looked interesting because death metal intrigues me it’s not my cup of tea but intrigues me. Yeah, I did see I’m familiar with that. I that that film? I haven’t seen it though.
35:52
Yeah, so they so I burned down churches you know, it’s like, you know, you’re on amis and barbed wire. I option that Back in like 2004 I think it was an Adam. Adam Parfray and I and Hans field was another director writer, we, we co wrote the screenplay to and it was ultimately made it and it was, it was a decent film, you know, I’m pretty good but then Okay, so I met on par free and he this get this. He was he was talking to Jay Weidner at the time, who has a lot of interesting stuff. A lot of you know, he’s one of the kind of the godfathers of the Kubrick kind of thing, you know, that Kubrick is, such as in his films on Adam was talking to Jay about putting out a book on Kubrick and I was very interested, I mean, Kubrick is, you know, if you talk to most film, you know, most filmmakers or film people that that know what’s going on Kubrick is the master or one of the if there was a Mount Rushmore, you know, Kubrick’s is definitely up there, you know. So. So, I mean, he’s you from 2001 on even before that, but even 2001 on he’s sort of just making one legendary film after another. But he started talking to Adam perfect start talking to Jay about putting out a book. It didn’t ultimately happen. But I remember you know, working with Adam every day at the time and Adam, start talking to Christiane Kubrick, Stan Lee’s wife, his widow. And he started talking to her about kind of the theories of that Stanley was putting this messaging in the shining, about the moon landing, you know, I mean, I your audience probably knows this, but Oh, yeah. There’s a film room 237. You’ve talked all about, you’ve written a book on it. So your audience probably knows for sure. But yeah,
Isaac Weishaupt 37:53
and I remember and Jay Weiner was a big influence because I was I was, I was red pilling myself. podcasts in 2012 2013 and winder was making a lot of stuff and he had the Kubrick’s Odyssey films. You know Yeah. Another great name for people that are trying to catch up Rob Agar. The British dude. Yeah.
38:15
Yeah, he’s good. Yeah, I kind of split with him a little bit on you know, he’s he’s
38:21
agar is he’s so good. He’s so good at catching symbolism. I know you’re really good at that.
Ryan Page 38:27
But he doesn’t believe in any of the moon landing. He hasn’t played Stanley shot the fake moon landing, you know, he’s not one, man. He’s a second Red Bank.
38:38
So,
Isaac Weishaupt 38:40
so Okay, sorry. I didn’t mean to cut you off. So Adam was talking with my ex wife saying, hey, there’s all these theories. Good. Sorry.
38:48
And, you know, literally I’ve been working at the time Adam and I were writing on another screenplay sounds with him every day. He’s talking to Christiane he tells her this I was kind of I’ve an ear to this. I mean, I’m in the room at the time. And he asks, he says, you know, these are the theories and this book that’s going to be presented. You know, please let me know if you, you know, should I should I do this? Should I put this out? She She answered him, which I couldn’t hear it, but he told me right after that. I’m not going to tell you that you’re wrong. And that just sort of like, Wow, man, you know, and I’ve heard she’s denied it. Denied saying anything like that and stuff, but I was right there, you know, so, Wow, man, that’s a big one dude. And I’ve held off that I haven’t I haven’t said that anywhere. I haven’t talked about this. Because Adam, Parfray, you know, sadly, he died just like two years ago. I think it was a horrible day. But he’s one of my best friends and he, he died, but he you diabetic and he fell and cracked his head and how is it Sorry to hear though Yes, is rough. Because he really did, like, you know, back in the 90s and early 2000s conspiracy stuff was way different. You know, it’s a, it was a different vibe back then. Do you know what I mean? When I,
Isaac Weishaupt 40:12
yeah, I, you know, I’m, I’m, you know, I grew up in 80s and 90s. And like, I follow this stuff, you know, casually, and it was just sort of a casual, fun, quirky sort of vibe, back then. And even in the 2000s, but 911 I mean, this is me, being a kid casually sort of hearing this and that and the other being interested. And then 2001 happened. And I think it started to take a more insidious tone. And you know, then you had the YouTube sort of movement. And that’s when things really took off of us talking about the symbolism. And I think that got real close to home. And that’s why YouTube and Google started censoring all of us and now it seems like there’s enough of the cat has been let out of the bag that like now we’re really building tangible things and then project addicting things that happen. And then they happen. And then we look at qubic stuff. And as you told me, there’s stuff in the Kubrick movies that is it’s still spilling out these different theories that seemed insane and crazy. Yeah, maybe that right?
Ryan Page 41:16
No, that’s absolutely true. And I think I think, you know, it’s Everyone knows that how meticulous of a filmmakers Stanley Kubrick was, and, and he and there’s stuff that is still coming out, like this furniture thing that you were talking about the other day, which you might want to, you know, talk about that for a second to kind of get your audience up to speed, although a lot of them probably heard it, but you know, there’s stuff that’s still coming out. I think he packed his films tightly that you that we discovering stuff for decades, really?
Isaac Weishaupt 41:42
Yeah, that and and what we’re talking about here is the the wayfair conspiracy, which you know, we did a whole show on, and basically, the short version is the allegation. The theory is that people in this group that like abusing kids are abducted them then bidding bidding them off and selling them through wayfair with or without wafers. acknowledgement. I don’t know. I don’t know how that operates I think they’re a third party sort of Amazon II kind of thing maybe. So maybe they don’t even know to in their defense. But the idea you know, because there’s pretty decent evidence I mean, there’s these $10,000 cabinets with these weird names that are just happened to be on the list of abducted children. And I talked about it and then I, I can me reach I was like, Hey, man, that’s in Clockwork Orange and the Karova milkbar in A Clockwork Orange has human beings women as furniture and that and that’s that was the infamously The only set Cooper created for that movie was that was it that was the one and only and sculptures of women. There’s a woman right? Yeah. And on the wall because they’re at the milk bar, which is where they put different drugs into the milk for them to get off ultraviolent stuff and one of the drugs is dreena chrome Of course, this ties into the adrenochrome idea of why they do this to these poor kids. And just
Ryan Page 43:06
just think of that, like, who was talking about adrenochrome back in the early 70s It’s insane man.
Isaac Weishaupt 43:14
And, and what was the other I posted the images on the Instagram. It was the clockwork orange and there was another lie.
Ryan Page 43:22
I shot you a text that you know, and a lot of people don’t know this because when in, in the kind of ritual slash orgy scene and Eyes Wide Shut coup, or qubic passed away before that film was released. And there was sort of some recutting going on by the studio or by God only knows. And then also some digital figures that had to be put over the, you know, some of the sexual encounters in in that ritual scene. So some of these figures are covered up but there are I sent you a text that hey, Isaac, man, like, just so you know, everything you’re talking about furniture, there. Kubrick used human beings as furniture for you know the secret society people do have intercourse upon in Eyes Wide Shut. And he was talking about that knocking Lolita is what you’re talking about. You’re talking about Lolita
Isaac Weishaupt 44:14
furniture party which ironically, man skinny fresh on the Patreon team there he he hit me with the Lolita things I hadn’t seen the movie. It was on my list of things I had to watch because obviously it’s very connected. Well we talked about and watched it and it was funny because I did the Lolita show a month prior or so to this wayfair thing and I think I even I added a clip of him talking about this furniture this guy who is the handler for the ring of kids stuff. He’s in there talking about this weird furniture stuff and I think he made a comment on the show like I don’t know what the hell he’s talking about. And then this wayfair thing pops. You sent me a text about the Eyes Wide Shut thing and I was like, I was like really on that scene. So I I the easiest most convenient way for me to watch eyes. Watch it was on show Time, so I just streamed it. And I went right to that scene. And I watched the whole scene and I’m like, dude, I don’t see it, man. And then I was like, man, are you sure about that? And then you sent me the screenshot. And, and I saw it with my own eyes. And I said, holy crap. So I watched it again on Showtime. And I sent you the screenshot of where you can see it technically. But there’s one of those digital images covering up three quarters of the body of the human furniture thing. Now I’ve got the blu ray four eyes watch, and I’m gonna pop it in and watch it because clearly you you saw a version that wasn’t Yeah, Showtime,
Ryan Page 45:34
like the most places, I think now back in the time like Kubrick, who you know, passed, as we just said, he was not he had Final Cut overs, film, no one could tell him what to do what to put in and what to take out. Only thing he had to do was meet the requirements of hitting an R rating. You know, it’s something you know, a lot of time investors put in there for years or studios. So they had to meet that so they had to cover it up. And they cover all kinds of things like this place. What’s in general kind of released now is the international version of the film, which doesn’t have those figures. Okay, that’s the screen grab came from. So if like you’re in France and you’re sitting watching eyes wide shot, you’re not going to see the digital figures that you see here.
Isaac Weishaupt 46:14
Interesting and, and I’ll post that image on Instagram at Isaac Weishaupt link in the show notes, all that stuff. And I’ll post that image on there to promote the show here so people can see what we’re talking about.
Ryan Page 46:27
Another thing I wanted to say about the film, though, is like I always hear this that and you hear it a lot people say qubic wasn’t interested in telling stories about you know, the, any child abduction, you know, pedophilia things. But that’s not true. They say it wasn’t an Eyes Wide Shut at all. I hear it all the time. I just read it in this in this book I’m reading right now, but I was fortunate. But that’s not true. There’s a big piece in the film right smack dab in the middle of this. It feels like the scene goes on forever. In fact, where you He goes to where the Tom Cruise’s character, Dr. Bill Harford goes to get a, get a mask and and dress for the ritual when it goes this place where you know, under the rainbow, whatever, where the rainbow ends. And in that scene, you’ll recall that this guy is allowing his daughter to be prostituted out to these two other gentlemen. So there’s a big part of that film about that. Yeah, what what does that do with anything? And that’s in there for a reason. It has nothing to do with the rest of the story.
Isaac Weishaupt 47:31
Yeah, in fact, I, I reviewed my book Kubrick’s Code on this topic. And I quickly realized because I wrote the book in 2013 2014 years in 2014. And back then we weren’t really talking about that this stuff as much and write the theory early on the book is talking about sort of, there’s a few ideas. There’s like this goddess worship thing. Basically, women involved with ritualistic things and the Seeing you talk about it’s the man I got the name in here somewhere. Yeah, but it’s this guy running the rainbow costume shop. And you see the he sort of he sort of busts in on these two these two guys that are doing things that his young daughter and on the wall you see the eight pointed star v star which ties into the goddess worship thing, and he sort of chases them off. Then she kind of whispers in Bill’s ear something about you should have a ermine cloak lined back or something.
48:35
How telling is that comment and I think I did you did you? Did you get that? I first heard that. Me personally from Jay Wiedner’s thing I think but did you catch that the first time you want you wrote the book?
Isaac Weishaupt 48:46
Because I didn’t think so. I think it is. I don’t know if I want real deep on it though.
Ryan Page 48:51
How telling is that comment? I mean, that’s only you can only even hear her if you read the subtitle.
Isaac Weishaupt 48:56
Yeah, I did post it in the book. I didn’t go okay. You I did go into that it’s been so long since I did this. Because that pattern is royal monarchy.
Ryan Page 49:06
Yeah, exactly. That’s it’s the it’s the right it’s the it’s the cloak of, you know, the princess and you know, everything along it’s like that that’s it that’s about it telling us I think anything in that film really. And then, of course,
Isaac Weishaupt 49:24
and of course like the the weirdest part. And I mentioned this in the book is how their daughter Elena, which is another goddess named Elena, you she gets sort of sold to these two old men at the very last shot of the film, and the two old men were at Ziegler’s party sitting at a table which was shown the book was screenshots. And that was just something I had found watching it and I was like, that’s really bizarre. You see, you’re clearly walk away with these two old men. And it’s absolutely in the toy.
Ryan Page 49:54
What, what would they be doing at that little, you know, FAO Schwarz store what would they do
Isaac Weishaupt 50:01
Yeah, so you’re so the guy that said that there’s no kid stuff, man, they need to watch that again.
Ryan Page 50:07
It runs that stuff runs throughout Kubrick’s career. Another thing that probably most people I said would not know is that right after Kubrick’s either first or second film, he almost made a film called burning secret. Have you heard about this?
Isaac Weishaupt 50:21
No, this
Ryan Page 50:23
script exists and they they just found it like a year ago and someone’s you know, stuffed in some attic somewhere. Kubrick wrote a wrote a script called burning secret. And it’s a story about this. Baron has kind of been ousted from his family, I think and he is down on his luck and he’s trying to, he finds a wealthy woman that he’s going to try and woo and sort of like the reverse of Lolita, and Lolita You know, there’s Humbert Humbert tries to you know, tries to get with the Shelley Winters character, but in this burning secret, he uses her 10 year old Son nine or 10 year old son to get to the woman he’s trying to ultimately marry. And then some weird stuff happens between the boy and the man. So this thing like sexual things. So this and then he in fact, he couldn’t make burning secret when he wanted to make it. Beef. It was just too controversial is too tough to touch. I mean, I can’t believe he made Lolita when he made Lolita. That seems outrageous
Isaac Weishaupt 51:25
is our
Ryan Page 51:27
what we’re like my parents are of that generation. What the hell were they thinking when they’re watching Lolita man like that? Oh, yeah.
Isaac Weishaupt 51:35
And there’s a clearly a scene where they clearly imply that they have sex Humbert Humbert, who’s like, I don’t know, 60 and movie and the girl was supposedly like 15 or 16 or something.
Ryan Page 51:46
They do. And then there’s a scene right before where you know, the character that Peter Sellers played, he goes to Humbert Humbert at that hotel, and he basically tries to sell them another child, I think, right?
Isaac Weishaupt 52:02
Yeah. He uses sort of, I mean, we load it, we can watch it now. Yeah, with the language that we know. And he’s basically a handler and he’s kind of like, Hey, I can hook you into whatever it is you want. And you brought a real lovely young lady here with you. Or, like young, good looking girls or something weird.
Ryan Page 52:20
Kubrick’s been on. He’s been telling that that story, and it’s kind of an all in a lot of his films anyway.
Isaac Weishaupt 52:27
Yeah. Yeah. People are just waking up to it. So I’ve got about five minutes here.
Ryan Page 52:32
Let’s wrap it up. But I mean, go ahead.
Isaac Weishaupt 52:34
Yeah. So okay, so so koeberg interesting character and Eyes Wide Shut. Clearly. It said it was it he said it was his favorite film.
Ryan Page 52:44
Did did he act was he quoted as saying that? Yeah,
Isaac Weishaupt 52:47
yeah, I put that in the book. I’d have to double check the reference.
Ryan Page 52:51
I know it. Let’s put it this way. He wanted to make Eyes Wide Shut as a second film. So it’s it was 50 years in the making. It went through You know, Steve Martin was almost cast in the film. He almost did it with, you know, Woody Allen and Mia Farrow. There’s rumors that he was going to make it with Alec Baldwin and Kim Basinger. And he ultimately made it with Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman. But it was it was extremely important to him. The, the author Arthur Schnitzler was a contemporary of Sigmund Freud. Did you know that? in Vienna, the he wrote the dream novella. You’re right, Tom, no. Valid, yeah, Dream story or whatever. Well, he was a contemporary of Sigmund Freud, Vienna, and Vienna. And Freud was a huge fan of Arthur Schnitzler, the writer of the dream, a dream novel,
Isaac Weishaupt 53:44
okay. And Freud is important here because he was always talking about sex and the the ego and the mind and all these weird sort of connections.
Ryan Page 53:53
Kubrick was obsessed with Freud to, but Freud would not. He wrote a letter that you can read, he wrote a letter to Arthur schnitzel and said, I can’t meet you because I see you as my doppelganger. And we can’t meet because one or both of us will die if we need actual letter from the author of, you know, the book that I was watching, I was based on this this. I when you said that quote, I only asked as I know, it was, I hadn’t heard of Kubrick say this was his favorite film ever made, but I believe it because he was trying to make that film for 50 years. And, and thank, thankfully he was able to write before he died. Because that’s a really it’s a, you could make a case in my film, my documentary that you all can see when it comes out and probably in, you know, six to 12 months is when it will be but that you can make the case that it’s sort of a summation of all of his work, you know, and it’s really trying to, you know, we’ve been when we’re still uncovering this film, I mean, when you first saw what did what did you think of it when you first saw his white shot?
Isaac Weishaupt 54:58
You know, it’s funny. I’ve got this range relationship with the darkness. I saw it when it came out because I really liked Kubrick growing up a huge fan of Clockwork Orange. And not that I’ve seen every movie in his catalogue, I just love the shining Clockwork Orange Full Metal Jacket. Growing up. I watched those a million times as a kid. And Eyes Wide Shut came out, I watched I want to say I watched in the theater, but I could be very wrong on that. But I watched it either way. And I remember everyone around me was like, That movie was such a snooze fest. I was like, I don’t know, I really liked it. I don’t know why, you know, it was long and dry and dialog filled. And I’ve seen it many times even before I started doing podcasting and all the books crap. And you know, to this day is one of my favorite movies. It’s so good.
Ryan Page 55:43
It’s every time you want it’s, you know, every time you watch that film you can get you pick up one or two or three or four interesting new things that you hadn’t noticed. Yeah, it’s on film. It’s strange. And it was of course, you know, Kubrick passed right after showing the Warner Brothers Exactly. And Tom and Nicole. It His rough cut, Kubrick was notorious for cutting and re editing his films even after they were in the theater. There was a you know, the shining was out and he called all the prints back, cut a scene and send them all back out again. That was after was in the theaters. Oh, yeah. And he did that with a clockwork orange too. So he was notorious for that. I mean, huh. So are you
Isaac Weishaupt 56:24
Yeah, are you making a So just to clarify, are you making a documentary on like, all of Kubrick’s works? Is this going to be conspiracy sort of themed What do you What’s that looking like?
Ryan Page 56:35
It’s it’s exactly that it’s it well, it’s not all of his work but his Eyes Wide Shut and kind of looking at it from this these angles that we’re discussing today. Oh, strictly Eyes
Isaac Weishaupt 56:43
Wide Shut. Yeah. Really examined. Wow. Okay.
Ryan Page 56:47
exactly what it is. So we don’t even we don’t have title yet. All your audience will know. Because, you know, it’ll, it’ll, we’ll definitely let your audience know what the title is. And when it’s coming out, you know, if there is a world released films and In six to 12 months, if you’re still in love it,
Isaac Weishaupt 57:03
I love it. I can’t wait to see that. That’s incredible,
Ryan Page 57:06
man. Yeah, appreciate on and, you know, let’s, let’s continue talking.
Isaac Weishaupt 57:12
Yeah man I could talk to you all day, man this is this is such good stuff. Yeah. Okay so so um I’ll put how can how do you want the audience to sort of keep up with you in your work in this documentary? How do you want to make that happen you want to?
Ryan Page 57:28
I don’t I generally like try to it’s like every one of my films has a website and I have like two different companies I release films through that I own but I guess one of my companies is Zu33 dot com Zoo 33 033 so Zu thirty three.com has info on our films. We did another film called mode or most people pronounce it and you know, move but it’s mo Robert Moog invented the synthesizer pioneer. That’s a film I did with Huntsville stat. So he had run a company but it’ll be there. I’ll let you know the title and they you know it If someone wants to, to reach me, you know, the again shoot me an email, you know, I don’t care. I’m pretty open. So I’m not like, I’m not. I don’t Big Shot anyone, man, you know, so I’m here if if someone wants to reach me just you just pass them through, you know, I won’t announce it here on the air, but you can just send them through to me, you know,
58:17
got it. Okay, cool, man.
Isaac Weishaupt 58:19
Yeah, and you’re a member of the community here. So I appreciate you. You know, entertaining all of these wild ideas.
Ryan Page 58:26
I love your show. You keep up the good work, my friend.
Isaac Weishaupt 58:28
Yeah. Likewise, brother, man. Thank you. Appreciate you. Excited. All right, that was the great Ryan page. Also a Patreon supporter, by the way, which could be you which should be you patreon.com backslash Illuminati watcher. And, you know, maybe if it’s not your time, that’s okay, too. You know where to find us. If you want all that BONUS stuff, if you want, you know, if you sign up for the Patreon, you get the ebook of the dark fast but you also get the ebook of Kubrick’s code where you go through The Kubrick movies and then I even drop a two and a half hour video I made it’s nowhere near the quality of the Mr. Ryan pages documentaries But hey, still got some good information in it. And you can watch that as the Patreon supporter. You can always check it out see what you think patreon.com backslash Illuminati watcher Yeah, let me know what you think I’ve got a I’ve got a discord set up for the Patreon supporters to get on that discord if you’re on the Patreon team, and sound off what do you think about all this stuff? If you’re not on the Patreon team, you know, hit me in the comments on the Instagram at Isaac Weishaupt I’ll put that photo again I’ll put that photo of that ghost hunting incident. It’s gory. I’ll warn you up front this ghost wasn’t playing around. This ghost was out for for trying to catch bodies. So you can check that out Instagram.com/IsaacWeishaupt like and subscribe and until next time, my friends stay woke