bbc--2020-09-04--'The new Ballack and a future superstar' - who is Chelsea signing Havertz?

Last updated on .From the section Chelsea He has been called `` the next Michael Ballack '' and tipped to be a future superstar .
Blues fans will be hoping he can help turn the team into title contenders , but why have the club agreed to pay a fee in the region of £71m - including add-ons - for this 21-year-old ?
Who is this German wunderkind ?
Born in 1999 , Havertz has been described as the biggest talent of his generation coming out of Germany .
The attacking midfielder made waves at the age of 17 , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ the 2016-17 season , and it was obvious from the start he would become a superstar one day .
Havertz possesses the technical skills of a typical number 10 , but can not be strictly categorised as one - his height ( 6ft 2in ) and dynamic style make him an option for various roles .
He has often played in attacking midfield for Leverkusen , but also in central midfield , on the right wing , and more recently as a striker .
National coach Joachim Low also likes to test him @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Germany see him as the new Michael Ballack .
The former Bayern Munich and Chelsea midfielder had similar attributes , not only pulling the strings with passes but also making powerful runs into the box .
While Havertz may lack Ballack 's outstanding physicality , he can be an intelligent runner that suddenly emerges behind the backline to score .
Havertz is a modern playmaker who combines passing skills , vision , calmness under pressure , and a high level of athleticism .
He does n't try sneaky tricks and does n't do @ @ @ @ @ @ @ player in the mould of his new manager Frank Lampard .
Havertz does n't have the most colourful personality and , like many other German players of his generation , lets his feet do the talking .
He grew up as the son of a policeman and a lawyer in the small village of Mariadorf , becoming a fan and youth player of local club Alemannia Aachen .
As a 10-year-old he caught the eye of Bayer Leverkusen scouts , who convinced him to move to the Bundesliga powerhouse .
As the young @ @ @ @ @ @ @ he had to commute from school to Leverkusen 's youth academy several times a week .
Once he joined the under-17 team , he moved into the house of stadium announcer Klaus Schenkmann .
There is no rags-to-riches backstory .
`` Kai is lucky that he comes from a level-headed family .
His mother and father are both down to earth , '' said Jurgen Gelsdorf , the former head of Leverkusen 's academy .
Havertz ended up taking his A-levels when he was a regular member of Leverkusen 's senior team , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ go to school in the morning because we were training . ''
He had to catch up on the teaching material in the afternoons .
`` At some point , I could n't do it any more .
My energy was gone .
I wanted to give up . ''
But manager Roger Schmidt convinced him to stay the course , and it paid off .
While his classmates went for a trip to Italy 's Lake Garda , Havertz made his Champions League debut against Tottenham at Wembley in front of 85,000 @ @ @ @ @ @ @ at Chelsea ?
Havertz could be employed in a number of positions , and various systems .
But his most likely role is as the first-choice number 10 in a 4-2-3-1 , or the advanced number eight in a 4-3-3 .
The Blues already have an ensemble of wingers and , with the signing of Timo Werner , two highly talented strikers .
There is no need to experiment with Havertz .
He moves effortlessly between the lines and can offer a unique presence in Chelsea 's midfield .
The likes of Christian @ @ @ @ @ @ @ having this kind of playmaker right next to them , while the deep-lying midfielders have a go-to guy if they are struggling .
Former team-mates and coaches have praised Havertz for his mental strength - seen as his biggest asset beside his footballing talent .
He may need a while to get accustomed to the Premier League and his new club after spending 10 years in Leverkusen , but there is little that could stop Havertz from becoming the linchpin of Chelsea 's attack .

Havertz, 21, scored 18 goals in 45 appearances for Leverkusen last season
He has been called "the next Michael Ballack" and tipped to be a future superstar.
And, after what felt like a never-ending transfer story, Kai Havertz has signed for Chelsea, becoming their second most expensive signing and seventh new recruit of the summer.
Blues fans will be hoping he can help turn the team into title contenders, but why have the club agreed to pay a fee in the region of £71m - including add-ons - for this 21-year-old?
Chelsea's summer signings Player Fee From Position Age Kai Havertz £71m Bayer Leverkusen Midfielder 21 Timo Werner £47.5m RB Leipzig Striker 24 Ben Chilwell £45m Leicester Left-back 23 Hakim Ziyech £33.3m Ajax Winger 26 Malang Sarr Free Nice Defender 21 Thiago Silva Free PSG Defender 35 Xavier Mbuyamba Free Barcelona Defender 18
Who is this German wunderkind?
Born in 1999, Havertz has been described as the biggest talent of his generation coming out of Germany.
The attacking midfielder made waves at the age of 17, making his debut for Bayer Leverkusen during the 2016-17 season, and it was obvious from the start he would become a superstar one day.
Havertz possesses the technical skills of a typical number 10, but cannot be strictly categorised as one - his height (6ft 2in) and dynamic style make him an option for various roles.
He has often played in attacking midfield for Leverkusen, but also in central midfield, on the right wing, and more recently as a striker. National coach Joachim Low also likes to test him in a deeper role.
Some in Germany see him as the new Michael Ballack. The former Bayern Munich and Chelsea midfielder had similar attributes, not only pulling the strings with passes but also making powerful runs into the box.
While Havertz may lack Ballack's outstanding physicality, he can be an intelligent runner that suddenly emerges behind the backline to score.
Havertz is a modern playmaker who combines passing skills, vision, calmness under pressure, and a high level of athleticism. He doesn't try sneaky tricks and doesn't do anything inefficient. He is a no-nonsense player in the mould of his new manager Frank Lampard.
Havertz doesn't have the most colourful personality and, like many other German players of his generation, lets his feet do the talking.
What is Havertz's backstory?
He grew up as the son of a policeman and a lawyer in the small village of Mariadorf, becoming a fan and youth player of local club Alemannia Aachen.
As a 10-year-old he caught the eye of Bayer Leverkusen scouts, who convinced him to move to the Bundesliga powerhouse.
As the young Havertz was still living in Aachen, he had to commute from school to Leverkusen's youth academy several times a week. Once he joined the under-17 team, he moved into the house of stadium announcer Klaus Schenkmann.
There is no rags-to-riches backstory.
"Kai is lucky that he comes from a level-headed family. His mother and father are both down to earth," said Jurgen Gelsdorf, the former head of Leverkusen's academy.
Havertz ended up taking his A-levels when he was a regular member of Leverkusen's senior team, once saying: "I couldn't go to school in the morning because we were training."
He had to catch up on the teaching material in the afternoons. "At some point, I couldn't do it any more. My energy was gone. I wanted to give up."
But manager Roger Schmidt convinced him to stay the course, and it paid off.
While his classmates went for a trip to Italy's Lake Garda, Havertz made his Champions League debut against Tottenham at Wembley in front of 85,000 spectators.
How could he fit in at Chelsea?
Havertz could be employed in a number of positions, and various systems.
But his most likely role is as the first-choice number 10 in a 4-2-3-1, or the advanced number eight in a 4-3-3.
The Blues already have an ensemble of wingers and, with the signing of Timo Werner, two highly talented strikers. There is no need to experiment with Havertz.
He moves effortlessly between the lines and can offer a unique presence in Chelsea's midfield. The likes of Christian Pulisic and Hakim Ziyech will benefit from having this kind of playmaker right next to them, while the deep-lying midfielders have a go-to guy if they are struggling.
Former team-mates and coaches have praised Havertz for his mental strength - seen as his biggest asset beside his footballing talent.
He may need a while to get accustomed to the Premier League and his new club after spending 10 years in Leverkusen, but there is little that could stop Havertz from becoming the linchpin of Chelsea's attack.


bbc--2020-09-05--'They're playing a Championship side' - when England were humiliated by Iceland

Last updated on .From the section England '' I 'm sorry it will have to end this way but these things happen .
`` I would have loved to stay on for another two years .
However , I am pragmatic and I know we are in the results business .
It 's been a fantastic journey .
`` The country requires fresh leadership .
Although leaving Europe was not the path I recommended , I am the first to praise our incredible strengths . ''
The last week of June 2016 was not what you would call a quiet @ @ @ @ @ @ @ stormy week saw first the Prime Minister , David Cameron , step down after the UK voted to leave the European Union , and then Roy Hodgson , England manager , resign after a humiliating defeat by Iceland at Euro 2016 .
Both men had pre-prepared resignation speeches , which we 've knitted together there .
It feels a lifetime ago does n't it ?
Much has changed as England prepare to face Iceland once again this weekend - but what did go so drastically wrong on that night in Nice , and @ @ @ @ @ @ @ in the group but an injury-time Daniel Sturridge winner against Wales helped book the last-16 tie with minnows Iceland .
Backed in France by nearly 10 % of the nation 's tiny population of 330,000 - the same as Coventry , as we were told on a daily basis during the tournament - Iceland , with their thunder-clapping supporters , were everyone 's second team .
A draw with eventual winners Portugal and a stoppage-time winner against Austria put Iceland through , but they started as huge underdogs against England , even if @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Three Lions had won a knockout match at a major tournament and only won two of their past 13 knockout games in 90 minutes .
`` Let 's be realistic , England are playing a Championship side tonight , '' Chris Waddle said over the radio as the sides emerged .
`` I 'll be very , very surprised if England do n't win this game 2-0 , 3-1 , '' chimed in Danny Mills .
`` Iceland have done very well but they have a limited pool of players to pick from @ @ @ @ @ @ @ game then it will be a massive embarrassment . ''
All the gear , no idea Hodgson 's England side had dominated possession in all of their games in France , without being clinical .
And so when the recalled Raheem Sterling was fouled for a fourth-minute penalty which captain Wayne Rooney dispatched for his 53rd and final goal for his country , the nation relaxed and began to dream of a quarter-final against hosts France .
Nobody had given Iceland that script though .
Just two minutes later , a huge throw-in @ @ @ @ @ @ @ on and Kyle Walker lost Ragnar Sigurdsson who tapped in the equaliser .
Kolbeinn Sigthorsson then hit a tame shot which England keeper Joe Hart failed to keep out and Iceland were on the verge of sporting nirvana .
The second half saw England muster just two shots on target , barely testing goalkeeper Hannes Thor Halldorsson , who would have had more testing days directing music videos in his other life .
`` I 'm just lost for words , '' said Waddle at the final whistle .
`` I know England @ @ @ @ @ @ @ is the worst result I 've ever known . ''
As England fans in the stadium threw away shirts and flags of St George , Hodgson was already prepared for his farewell , announcing his pre-written resignation just 19 minutes after the full-time whistle .
Icelandic TV commentator Gudmundur Benediktsson went viral with his reaction , tying in the shock with the aforementioned EU referendum result ... '' Never wake me from this amazing dream ! ''
he bellowed .
`` Live the way you want England !
Iceland is going to play @ @ @ @ @ @ @ home .
You can go out of Europe .
`` You can go wherever the hell you want .
The fairytale continues . ''
The BBC Sport pundits and former players did not miss out on a chance to weigh in on a truly abysmal night for England 's footballers .
Here 's a taste : Former England captain Alan Shearer : `` That was the worst performance I 've ever seen from an England team .
Ever .
It was tactically inept .
`` We were out-fought , out-thought , out-battled and @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Our players caved tonight .
We 've all played under pressure , they caved and the manager caved .
He gave Manchester United 's teenage striker Marcus Rashford four minutes and he still did more than anyone else .
`` We are blinded by the Premier League .
We think it 's the best in the world for talent .
It 's not .
We are totally reliant on foreign players and managers for excitement .
We are not as good as we think we are . ''
Former England winger Chris Waddle @ @ @ @ @ @ @ They 've not turned up .
They go 1-0 up , but then concede a Sunday morning goal .
`` We have n't got leaders , they 're all pampered , they 're all just headphones and you ca n't get anything out of them .
`` I would never pay to watch Iceland , but they 've got great camaraderie .
England will now say 'we 're building a team for Qatar ' , then we 'll be building a team for Timbuktu . ''
France showed what a top tier side @ @ @ @ @ @ @ offence intended - by pumping them 5-2 in Paris .
Hodgson , of course , wound up at Crystal Palace after a year away from the glare and has continued his largely fine work at club level .
For the 11 England players who started on that night in Nice , the humiliation was not as terminal as you may think .
They all would go on to play for England again , with Hart picking up another 11 appearances in goal before being ousted .
Kyle Walker , Eric Dier , Sterling @ @ @ @ @ @ @ face Iceland again this weekend .
Post-match , post Hodgson , the BBC pundits were unanimous in stating that England must go `` for a young , dynamic manager who knows the young players coming through . ''
The Football Association took note and moved for Gareth Southgate , and the rest was World Cup semi-final history .
Only joking !
They moved for Big Sam did n't they ?
That went well .

Last updated on .From the section England
Dan Roan: "Possibly the greatest calamity in English football history"
Nations League: Iceland v England Venue : Laugardalsvollur, Reykjavik Date : Saturday 5 September (17:00 BST) Coverage : Full match commentary on BBC Radio 5 Live, live text commentary and report on BBC Sport website and app
"I'm sorry it will have to end this way but these things happen.
"There can be no doubt about the result. I believe we've made great steps, but we have to confront big decisions, not duck them.
"I would have loved to stay on for another two years. However, I am pragmatic and I know we are in the results business. It's been a fantastic journey.
"The country requires fresh leadership. Although leaving Europe was not the path I recommended, I am the first to praise our incredible strengths."
The last week of June 2016 was not what you would call a quiet one on the news front. A stormy week saw first the Prime Minister, David Cameron, step down after the UK voted to leave the European Union, and then Roy Hodgson, England manager, resign after a humiliating defeat by Iceland at Euro 2016.
Both men had pre-prepared resignation speeches, which we've knitted together there. It feels a lifetime ago doesn't it?
Much has changed as England prepare to face Iceland once again this weekend - but what did go so drastically wrong on that night in Nice, and what happened next?
'Playing a Championship side'
England were streaky in the group but an injury-time Daniel Sturridge winner against Wales helped book the last-16 tie with minnows Iceland.
Backed in France by nearly 10% of the nation's tiny population of 330,000 - the same as Coventry, as we were told on a daily basis during the tournament - Iceland, with their thunder-clapping supporters, were everyone's second team.
A draw with eventual winners Portugal and a stoppage-time winner against Austria put Iceland through, but they started as huge underdogs against England, even if it had been 10 years since the Three Lions had won a knockout match at a major tournament and only won two of their past 13 knockout games in 90 minutes.
"Let's be realistic, England are playing a Championship side tonight," Chris Waddle said over the radio as the sides emerged.
"I'll be very, very surprised if England don't win this game 2-0, 3-1," chimed in Danny Mills.
"Iceland have done very well but they have a limited pool of players to pick from. If England don't win this game then it will be a massive embarrassment."
Quite right Danny...
All the gear, no idea
Hodgson's England side had dominated possession in all of their games in France, without being clinical.
How Hodgson's England lined up in Nice
And so when the recalled Raheem Sterling was fouled for a fourth-minute penalty which captain Wayne Rooney dispatched for his 53rd and final goal for his country, the nation relaxed and began to dream of a quarter-final against hosts France.
Nobody had given Iceland that script though. Just two minutes later, a huge throw-in was launched, Kari Arnason nodded it on and Kyle Walker lost Ragnar Sigurdsson who tapped in the equaliser.
"Aahhhh I should have saved that one shouldn't I?'
Kolbeinn Sigthorsson then hit a tame shot which England keeper Joe Hart failed to keep out and Iceland were on the verge of sporting nirvana.
The second half saw England muster just two shots on target, barely testing goalkeeper Hannes Thor Halldorsson, who would have had more testing days directing music videos in his other life.
"I'm just lost for words," said Waddle at the final whistle. "I know England have had bad results, but this is the worst result I've ever known."
As England fans in the stadium threw away shirts and flags of St George, Hodgson was already prepared for his farewell, announcing his pre-written resignation just 19 minutes after the full-time whistle.
Jermaine Jenas said Roy Hodgson "didn't know" what he was doing, adding: "He didn't know his best team or system."
Icelandic TV commentator Gudmundur Benediktsson went viral with his reaction, tying in the shock with the aforementioned EU referendum result...
"Never wake me from this amazing dream!" he bellowed. "Live the way you want England! Iceland is going to play France. France-Iceland! You can go home. You can go out of Europe.
"You can go wherever the hell you want. The fairytale continues."
'They're all just headphones'
Ex England winger Chris Waddle reacts to the Euro 2016 exit to Iceland.
The BBC Sport pundits and former players did not miss out on a chance to weigh in on a truly abysmal night for England's footballers. Here's a taste:
Former England captain Alan Shearer: "That was the worst performance I've ever seen from an England team. Ever. It was tactically inept.
"We were out-fought, out-thought, out-battled and totally hopeless for 90 minutes.
"Our players caved tonight. We've all played under pressure, they caved and the manager caved. He gave Manchester United's teenage striker Marcus Rashford four minutes and he still did more than anyone else.
"We are blinded by the Premier League. We think it's the best in the world for talent. It's not. We are totally reliant on foreign players and managers for excitement. We are not as good as we think we are."
Former England winger Chris Waddle on BBC Radio 5 Live: "They've not turned up. They go 1-0 up, but then concede a Sunday morning goal.
"We haven't got leaders, they're all pampered, they're all just headphones and you can't get anything out of them.
"I would never pay to watch Iceland, but they've got great camaraderie. England will now say 'we're building a team for Qatar', then we'll be building a team for Timbuktu."
Euro 2016: The pundits have their say on England's exit from the tournament
What happened next?
It wasn't quite the end for Wayne Rooney in an England shirt - but he would never score again for his country
France showed what a top tier side should have done against Iceland - no offence intended - by pumping them 5-2 in Paris.
Hodgson, of course, wound up at Crystal Palace after a year away from the glare and has continued his largely fine work at club level.
For the 11 England players who started on that night in Nice, the humiliation was not as terminal as you may think. They all would go on to play for England again, with Hart picking up another 11 appearances in goal before being ousted.
Kyle Walker, Eric Dier, Sterling and Kane are in the squad to face Iceland again this weekend.
Post-match, post Hodgson, the BBC pundits were unanimous in stating that England must go "for a young, dynamic manager who knows the young players coming through."
The Football Association took note and moved for Gareth Southgate, and the rest was World Cup semi-final history.
Only joking! They moved for Big Sam didn't they? That went well.


bbc--2020-09-05--Zverev says he was told there was 'very little chance' Mannarino match would be played

Last updated on .From the section Tennis German fifth seed Alexander Zverev says he was told there was `` very little chance '' his US Open third-round match with Adrian Mannarino would be played because of coronavirus restrictions .
The match started nearly three hours late before Zverev won in four sets .
The US Tennis Association said the delay was a result of a `` collaborative dialogue with health officials '' .
Zverev said : `` I was told there is very little chance we 'd play .
I was waiting around and very relaxed .
I was happy @ @ @ @ @ @ @ about Benoit Paire so I guess the New York State called and said he should n't play .
It was political , it was not us players just sitting around . ''
The statement from the organisers came shortly after the players started their match at Flushing Meadows around 17:15 local time ( 22:15 BST ) .
Before that , there was no explanation about why the match on Louis Armstrong Stadium had been delayed for two hours and 45 minutes .
`` Communication with the players was ongoing during the afternoon to @ @ @ @ @ @ @ '' said the USTA , which added it would not provide more details `` given the sensitivity of the medical issues involved '' .
Once play eventually got under way , Mannarino threatened to cause an upset by taking the first-set tie-break .
Zverev , 23 , edged a tight second set before improving considerably in the third and fourth to turn the match around for a 6-7 ( 4-7 ) 6-4 6-2 6-2 victory .
The German world number seven was also helped by Mannarino 's movement being hampered by a leg @ @ @ @ @ @ @ of room for improvement , I 'm not at my best yet , '' said Zverev , who faces Spaniard Alejandro Davidovich Fokina next .
• None Djokovic cruises into US Open last 16 • None Osaka comes through in three sets Players in the 'bubble within the bubble ' unhappy with USTA On Sunday , French number 17 seed Paire was replaced in the men 's singles draw by Spain 's Marcel Granollers at the behind-closed-doors Grand Slam in New York .
The USTA has not named Paire but the player wrote @ @ @ @ @ @ @ feels `` fine for the moment '' and has no symptoms .
Those who had been in contact with Paire were told they could still play in the tournament because they were being put in a `` bubble within the bubble '' .
That meant they were not withdrawn from the event but had to stay , practise and train in separate areas to the rest of the main bubble .
It led to accusations of rule-changing by the USTA from Argentine player Guido Pella , who was forced to pull out of @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , along with Bolivian player Hugo Dellien , because their fitness trainer tested positive .
Both Pella , seeded 29th , and Dellien went on to lose in their US Open first-round matches .
The USTA has also faced criticism from players within the group which had been in contact with Paire .
Belgian Kirsten Flipkens said officials told them on Thursday they could not leave the US until next weekend but were able to continue following the same protocols .
However , later on Friday she said they had now been told @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , who lost in the singles on Wednesday and then in the doubles on Thursday , posted a video on Instagram showing her unable to open a window in her room and accompanied by the Queen song I Want to Break Free .
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Former world number three Zverev is aiming to fulfil his promise and win a maiden Grand Slam title
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German fifth seed Alexander Zverev says he was told there was "very little chance" his US Open third-round match with Adrian Mannarino would be played because of coronavirus restrictions.
Mannarino is in a "bubble within the bubble" after fellow Frenchmen Benoit Paire tested positive for coronavirus.
The match started nearly three hours late before Zverev won in four sets.
The US Tennis Association said the delay was a result of a "collaborative dialogue with health officials".
Zverev said: "I was told there is very little chance we'd play. I was waiting around and very relaxed. I was happy he could play.
"He was about Benoit Paire so I guess the New York State called and said he shouldn't play. It was political, it was not us players just sitting around."
The statement from the organisers came shortly after the players started their match at Flushing Meadows around 17:15 local time (22:15 BST).
Before that, there was no explanation about why the match on Louis Armstrong Stadium had been delayed for two hours and 45 minutes.
"Communication with the players was ongoing during the afternoon to keep them updated at all times," said the USTA, which added it would not provide more details "given the sensitivity of the medical issues involved".
Once play eventually got under way, Mannarino threatened to cause an upset by taking the first-set tie-break.
Zverev, 23, edged a tight second set before improving considerably in the third and fourth to turn the match around for a 6-7 (4-7) 6-4 6-2 6-2 victory.
The German world number seven was also helped by Mannarino's movement being hampered by a leg injury.
"There is a lot of room for improvement, I'm not at my best yet," said Zverev, who faces Spaniard Alejandro Davidovich Fokina next.
Players in the 'bubble within the bubble' unhappy with USTA
On Sunday, French number 17 seed Paire was replaced in the men's singles draw by Spain's Marcel Granollers at the behind-closed-doors Grand Slam in New York.
The USTA has not named Paire but the player wrote on social media on Monday that he feels "fine for the moment" and has no symptoms.
Those who had been in contact with Paire were told they could still play in the tournament because they were being put in a "bubble within the bubble".
That meant they were not withdrawn from the event but had to stay, practise and train in separate areas to the rest of the main bubble.
It led to accusations of rule-changing by the USTA from Argentine player Guido Pella, who was forced to pull out of last week's Western and Southern Open, along with Bolivian player Hugo Dellien, because their fitness trainer tested positive.
Both Pella, seeded 29th, and Dellien went on to lose in their US Open first-round matches.
The USTA has also faced criticism from players within the group which had been in contact with Paire.
Belgian Kirsten Flipkens said officials told them on Thursday they could not leave the US until next weekend but were able to continue following the same protocols.
However, later on Friday she said they had now been told to quarantine in their rooms.
Flipkens, who lost in the singles on Wednesday and then in the doubles on Thursday, posted a video on Instagram showing her unable to open a window in her room and accompanied by the Queen song I Want to Break Free.


bbc--2020-09-05--Donald Trump attacks 'slimeball' reporter in war dead row

US President Donald Trump has described as a `` slimeball '' a journalist who quoted him as saying dead US soldiers were `` losers '' and `` suckers '' .
He likened the Atlantic magazine report to unproven accusations made against him of colluding with Russia to win the presidential election of 2016 .
The damning quotes were corroborated independently by The Associated Press .
Veterans ' groups are among those condemning Mr Trump , less than two months from the 2020 election .
Progressive group VoteVets posted a video of families whose children had been killed in action .
@ @ @ @ @ @ @ is to sacrifice , '' says one .
Paul Rieckhoff of the Iraq & Afghanistan Veterans of America , tweeted : `` Who is really surprised by this ? ''
A small group of protesters waved placards at the president 's motorcade on Saturday near the Trump National Golf Club in Virginia .
Mr Trump has often staked a claim to strong support among the military , and last year Pew Research Center found that veterans were generally supportive of him as commander-in-chief , with 57 % in favour .
Three-fifths of the @ @ @ @ @ @ @ found .
What is Trump reported to have said ?
According to The Atlantic , when Mr Trump cancelled a visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery outside Paris in November 2018 , 100 years after the end of World War One , he said it was `` filled with losers '' .
Four sources told the magazine he had rejected the idea of visiting because the rain would dishevel his hair , and he did not believe it important to honour America 's war dead .
• Trump loves the military .
Do @ @ @ @ @ @ @ says famed military newspaper will not close During the same trip , the president also allegedly referred to 1,800 US soldiers who died at Belleau Wood as `` suckers '' .
The battle helped to prevent a German advance on Paris during World War One and is venerated by the US Marine Corps .
The Atlantic 's reporting was based on anonymous sources but a `` senior Defense Department official with first-hand knowledge of events '' and a `` senior U.S. Marine Corps officer who was told about Trump 's comments '' confirmed @ @ @ @ @ @ @ 2018 the White House said the cemetery visit had been cancelled because bad weather had grounded the president 's helicopter .
This account was backed up in a recent book by President Trump 's former national security adviser , John Bolton , who has been a vocal critic of Mr Trump .
The US Navy also said it cancelled the trip to the cemetery because of rain in response to a request under the Freedom of Information Act from Buzzfeed reporter Jason Leopold .
Without referring to Jeffrey Goldberg , the author of @ @ @ @ @ @ @ he tweeted on Saturday : `` You work so hard for the military , from completely rebuilding a depleted mess that was left by OBiden [ the previous presidential administration when Joe Biden was vice-president to Barack Obama ] , to fixing a broken V.A .
and fighting for large scale military pay raises , and then a slimeball reporter , maybe working with disgruntled people , makes up such a horrible charge.. '' '' This reminds me of the Dirty Dossier [ the Steele dossier which alleged collusion with Russia ] , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , & then with a thud turned out to be a total fraud .
So many other scams also .
The Radical Far Left is VICIOUS , they will do or say anything to win .
But they wo n't , we will WIN , & have four great years ! ''
Mr Trump went on to attack another journalist , Jennifer Griffin of Fox News , normally one of the president 's favourite news outlets .
Griffin had reported disparaging remarks about the US military allegedly made by Mr Trump on other @ @ @ @ @ @ @ in the Vietnam War `` suckers '' .
`` Jennifer Griffin should be fired for this kind of reporting , '' Mr Trump tweeted .
`` Never even called us for comment .
@ FoxNews is gone ! ''
White House officials have either denied the remarks allegedly made on the trip to France or stressed the president 's respect for the military .
What are Trump 's opponents saying ?
Mr Biden , the Democratic challenger in the 3 November election , said his rival was `` unfit '' to lead .
@ @ @ @ @ @ @ n't respect our troops , you ca n't lead them , '' he tweeted .
If elected , he said , he would `` ensure that our American heroes know that I will have their back and honor their sacrifice .
Always . ''
Democratic Senator Tammy Duckworth , a veteran who lost both legs while serving in Iraq , said President Trump `` liked to use the US military for his own ego '' .
Khizr Khan , the father of a US soldier killed in Iraq who criticised Mr Trump during @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Duckworth on the call .
He said : `` When Donald Trump calls anyone who places their lives in service of others a loser , we understand Trump 's soul . ''
Where do Trump and the US military stand ?
There have been previous spats and controversies .
Mr Trump caused outrage by saying the late Senator John McCain , a prisoner of war in Vietnam , was not a `` war hero '' saying : `` I like people who were n't captured . ''
The president has never served in @ @ @ @ @ @ @ a military draft during the Vietnam War - four for academic reasons and one for bone spurs , a calcium build-up in the heels .
Joe Biden received five student draft deferments during the Vietnam War before being disqualified from serving in the military because of asthma as a teenager .

"This reminds me of the Dirty Dossier [the Steele dossier which alleged collusion with Russia], which was pushed hard by John McCain, & then with a thud turned out to be a total fraud. So many other scams also. The Radical Far Left is VICIOUS, they will do or say anything to win. But they won't, we will WIN, & have four great years!"


bbc--2020-09-05--Covid recovered patients volunteer in Israeli hospital

Jerusalem 's Hadassah hospital has been recruiting recovered Covid-19 patients to volunteer inside its coronavirus wards to help patients there @ @ @ @ @ , they visit patients in moderate or serious condition , who would otherwise be in @ @ @ @ @ the patients eat or just lend a listening ear .
The hospital believes the project @ @ @ @ @ its kind in the world .
And it is likely to be closely watched , @ @ @ @ @ on how much antibody immunity recovered Covid-19 patients have .

Jerusalem's Hadassah hospital has been recruiting recovered Covid-19 patients to volunteer inside its coronavirus wards to help patients there.
Under the pilot scheme, they visit patients in moderate or serious condition, who would otherwise be in isolation. The volunteers help the patients eat or just lend a listening ear.
The hospital believes the project to be the first of its kind in the world. And it is likely to be closely watched, given the still unclear science on how much antibody immunity recovered Covid-19 patients have.
BBC's Middle East correspondent Tom Bateman reports.


bbc--2020-09-05--Beirut explosion: 'No signs of life' in search for blast survivors

Rescuers in Beirut have found `` no sign of life '' in the rubble of a building destroyed in last month 's massive port explosion , dashing hopes that someone could be rescued alive .
A sensor machine detected possible signs of life on Thursday , but after clearing 95 % of the rubble workers have not found the source of the reading .
About 50 volunteers , including a team from Chile , have been at the scene .
Crowds gathered at the building located between the residential districts of Gemmayze and Mar Mikhael , hoping for a miracle @ @ @ @ @ @ @ search ?
A team of rescuers from Chile were walking through the area on Wednesday night when their sniffer dog gave a sign that there was a person inside .
When they returned on Thursday , the dog again gave the same signal .
Specialist sensor equipment then detected a pulsing signal in the area .
They continued to remove the rubble on Saturday , clearing much of it by hand .
However they have still not located the source of the sensor reading .
In a news conference on Saturday , Francisco @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Topos Chile , said : `` Technically speaking , there are no signs of life . ''
He told reporters that signs of life recorded over the past two days were the breaths of volunteers working inside the building .
Efforts will now focus on clearing the rubble and looking for remains , he said .
`` We never stop with even one percent of hope , '' he said .
`` We never stop until the job is done '' .
`` We are not leaving the site until we 've finished @ @ @ @ @ @ @ a new building collapse threatens , '' he said .
More on the explosion in Beirut

They continued to remove the rubble on Saturday, clearing much of it by hand. However they have still not located the source of the sensor reading.


bbc--2020-09-06--Daniel Prude: Grand jury to investigate 'spit hood' death

New York 's attorney general has said a grand jury will be formed to investigate the death of Daniel Prude , an unarmed black man who suffocated after being restrained by police .
Mr Prude - who suffered from mental health issues - died after officers put him in a `` spit hood '' , designed to protect police from detainees ' saliva .
Protests have been held after footage of the incident in Rochester emerged .
Seven police officers have been suspended .
The 41-year-old died in March however his death has only just been reported .
Attorney General @ @ @ @ @ @ @ `` The Prude family and the Rochester community have been through great pain and anguish .
My office will immediately move to empanel a grand jury as part of our exhaustive investigation into this matter . ''
The move has been welcomed by Rochester Mayor Lovely Warren and New York Governor Andrew Cuomo .
But a spokeswoman for the Rochester Police Department declined to comment .
Mr Prude 's brother , Joe , told The New York Times : `` I am ecstatic about this .
But right now I 'm still waiting @ @ @ @ @ @ @ prosecuted to the full extent of the law . ''
Joe said he called police on 23 March as Daniel was showing acute mental health problems .
When officers arrived , he had been running naked through the streets .
In body camera footage obtained from the police by Mr Prude 's family , he can be seen lying on the ground as officers restrain him .
While sitting on the road , he becomes agitated , alternately asking for money or a gun .
He began spitting on the street , but @ @ @ @ @ @ @ resistance , according to the footage .
An officer says that Mr Prude told them he had Covid-19 , and they place the spit hood on him .
One officer can be seen pressing down on Mr Prude 's head with both hands , saying `` stop spitting '' .
Mr Prude stops moving and goes quiet , and officers note he feels cold .
Paramedics are called and Mr Prude is taken to hospital .
His family took him off life support a week later .
The medical examiner ruled his death @ @ @ @ @ @ @ of asphyxia in the setting of physical restraint '' , with intoxication by the drug PCP , a contributing factor .
Mayor Warren said the city police chief had failed to inform her of the case until the beginning of last month .
But police chief La'Ron Singletary denied that his department had been trying to keep the details out of public view , and Michael Mazzaeo , president of the Rochester Police Locust Club , said the officers had followed their training `` step by step '' .
The officers were only @ @ @ @ @ @ @ five months after Mr Prude 's death .
Protests in the city have taken place nightly since the release of the footage .
Mr Prude 's death came two months before that of George Floyd , whose killing while in police custody sparked widespread outrage and incited national and international demonstrations against police brutality and racism .

He began spitting on the street, but does not appear to offer any physical resistance, according to the footage. An officer says that Mr Prude told them he had Covid-19, and they place the spit hood on him.


bbc--2020-09-05--John Cage: Music changes chord for first time in seven years

Fans have flocked to a church in Germany to hear a chord change in a music which lasts for 639 years .
It is the first chord change to As Slow As Possible in seven years .
The work by avant-garde composer , John Cage , is one of the world 's longest and slowest piece of music .
The piece began 19 years ago with a pause lasting nearly 18 months .
The change of chord took place on the specially-built organ on which the composition is being performed .
The Saint Burchardi Church in the city of Halberstadt @ @ @ @ @ @ @ the last note change took place in 2013 .
The score is made up of eight pages of music , to be played at the piano or organ - very slowly .
But the wait for the next scheduled chord change will be quick in comparison - with 5 February 2022 slated as the date .
Cage , who passed away in 1992 at the age of 79 , wrote the piece in the 1980s .
The composer is arguably most famous for 4'33 '' , which is simply made up of four @ @ @ @ @ @ @

The three-movement composition from 1952 is for any combination of instruments, but instructs performers not to play them. Listeners instead hear the sound of the surrounding environment during the four minutes and 33 seconds the work lasts.


bbc--2020-09-05--'Super bacteria' survives for three years outside space station

Scientists who attached a strain of bacteria to the outside of the International Space Station have been stunned to find @ @ @ @ @ , in open space .
The experiment , led by a team of Japanese researchers @ @ @ @ @ radiodurans , also known as Conan the Bacterium due to its extreme hardiness .
Experts @ @ @ @ @ shape our understanding of whether life might exist on other planets .
Listen to more @ @ @ @

Scientists who attached a strain of bacteria to the outside of the International Space Station have been stunned to find it survived for three years, in open space.
The experiment, led by a team of Japanese researchers, involved the bacteria Deinococcus radiodurans, also known as Conan the Bacterium due to its extreme hardiness.
Experts say the study could help shape our understanding of whether life might exist on other planets.
Video produced by Trystan Young and Jasmin Souesi.
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bbc--2020-09-05--Alain Cocq: Facebook blocks incurably ill man from livestreaming death

Facebook says it will block a Frenchman suffering from an incurable condition from livestreaming his own death .
Alain Cocq , 57 , planned to broadcast his final days after starting to refuse food , drink and medicine on Saturday .
Mr Cocq wants the law changed in France to allow terminally ill people to die as they wish .
Some groups , including the Catholic Church , oppose euthanasia on moral grounds .
`` The road to deliverance begins and believe me , I am happy , '' Mr Cocq posted on Facebook early on Saturday morning from his @ @ @ @ @ @ @ announcing he had `` finished his last meal '' .
`` I know the days ahead are going to be difficult but I have made my decision and I am calm , '' he added .
Mr Cocq suffers from a degenerative disease , which causes the walls of his arteries to stick together .
But Facebook blocked the plan to livestream his death , stating that it did not allow portrayals of suicide .
`` Although we respect [ Mr Cocq 's ] decision to want to draw attention to this complex @ @ @ @ @ @ @ taken measures to prevent the live broadcast on Alain 's account , '' a Facebook spokesman told the AFP news agency .
`` Our rules do not allow us to show suicide attempts . ''
Mr Cocq said Facebook was blocking his broadcasts until 8 September .
He called upon his supporters to lobby the social media platform to change its stance .
`` It is up to you now , '' he said .
In July , Mr Cocq penned a letter to Mr Macron , asking the president to allow him @ @ @ @ @ @ @ describing his `` extremely violent suffering '' .
Mr Macron said he was `` moved '' by the letter , but could not grant the request as he was `` not situated above the law '' .
Euthanasia is a controversial topic in France , with many supporting a right to die with dignity , while others - particularly religious conservatives - have opposed calls for its decriminalisation .

"The road to deliverance begins and believe me, I am happy," Mr Cocq posted on Facebook early on Saturday morning from his bed at home in Dijon, after announcing he had "finished his last meal".


bbc--2020-09-05--Niger mass graves: Army accused of executing over 70 civilians

Niger 's national human rights commission has accused the army of executing dozens of civilians during counterinsurgency operations .
It said it had discovered more than 70 bodies in six mass graves in Tillaberi in the north-west of the country , an area affected by jihadist violence .
One of the investigators said the civilians had been killed with bladed weapons and small arms .
International rights groups have accused the armies of Niger , Mali and Burkina Faso of carrying out dozens of extrajudicial executions during campaigns against jihadists and other armed groups in the Sahel region .
Niger @ @ @ @ @ @ @ investigating allegations that 102 civilians had gone missing in the troubled region between 27 March and 2 April after an army operation .
`` There have indeed been executions of unarmed civilians and the mission discovered at least 71 bodies in six mass graves , '' said Abdoulaye Seydou , the president of the Pan-African Network for Peace , Democracy and Development , which took part in the investigation .
`` It is elements of the Defence and Security Forces ( FDS ) which are responsible for these summary and extrajudicial executions , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ said it was not possible to say whether top levels of the army were responsible .
There has been no response to the claim from the Niger authorities .

"There have indeed been executions of unarmed civilians and the mission discovered at least 71 bodies in six mass graves," said Abdoulaye Seydou, the president of the Pan-African Network for Peace, Democracy and Development, which took part in the investigation.


bbc--2020-09-05--Climate protesters target Murdoch newspapers

Extinction Rebellion ( XR ) activists have delayed the distribution of several national newspapers after blocking access to three printing presses owned by Rupert Murdoch .
Protesters targeted Newsprinters presses at Broxbourne in Hertfordshire , Knowsley in Merseyside , and near Motherwell , North Lanarkshire .
Prime Minister Boris Johnson said the action by demonstrators across the country was `` unacceptable '' .
The Sun tweeted to report copies of the paper would be delayed arriving at newsagents , adding the blockade was an `` attack on all the free press '' .
The presses print the Rupert Murdoch-owned News @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Times , the Sun on Sunday , the Sunday Times , and the Scottish Sun .
They also print the Daily Telegraph and Sunday Telegraph , the Daily Mail and Mail on Sunday , and the London Evening Standard .
Demonstrators have accused the papers of failing to report on climate change .
XR used vehicles to block roads to the printing plants , while individual protesters chained themselves to structures .
Vans were covered with banners with messages including `` Free the truth '' and `` Refugees are welcome here '' .
@ @ @ @ @ @ @ A free press is vital in holding the government and other powerful institutions to account on issues critical for the future of our country , including the fight against climate change .
`` It is completely unacceptable to seek to limit the public 's access to news in this way . ''
Shadow Secretary of State for Digital Culture , Media and Sport , Jo Stephens , said : `` People have the right to read the newspapers they want .
`` Stopping them from being distributed and printers from doing their jobs @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Priti Patel tweeted the overnight action by XR was an `` attack on democracy '' .
Newsprinters also condemned the protests as an `` attack on all of the free press '' , which it said had affected workers going about their jobs and others such as newsagents who faced `` financial penalty '' .
`` Thanks to other industry partners , printing was transferred to other sites , '' it said .
Telegraph editor Chris Evans earlier emailed staff to say that although the paper was not XR 's primary target , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ He told them : `` I 'm also very concerned - and I hope you are too - by the attack on free speech .
`` Whatever your politics you should be worried by this .
There are also questions for the police who perhaps placed the right of these few people to protest above the right of the rest of the people to read a free press . ''
Hertfordshire Police said officers were called to Great Eastern Road near the Broxbourne plant at about 22:00 BST , where they found about @ @ @ @ @ @ @ to structures and one another '' .
By 06:00 delivery lorries had still been unable to leave the site to distribute papers .
Officers said 50 people had been arrested on suspicion of causing a public nuisance .
Chief Constable Charlie Hall said the group 's action had been `` an intentionally disruptive and unacceptable protest that had been pre-planned and carefully co-ordinated to create prolonged disruption to local businesses '' .
Hertfordshire officers arrived `` within five minutes of the initial report '' , he said , however , `` the nature @ @ @ @ @ @ @ and cutting equipment in order to safely remove the protesters from their locations '' .
Each one had to be individually released from a bamboo structure they had erected , Mr Hall added .
Although business had resumed at the site , he said officers would remain there to monitor the area .
Merseyside Police tweeted on Saturday morning that officers were at the Knowsley plant .
The site had been cleared of protesters by about 10:30 and 30 people had been arrested on suspicion of aggravated trespass .
Police Scotland said in @ @ @ @ @ @ @ plant near Motherwell `` was peaceful and there were no issues '' .
XR has accused the newspapers and their owners of `` failure to report on the climate and ecological emergency '' and `` polluting national debate '' on dozens of social issues .
The Federation of Independent Retailers condemned the demonstrations , saying members left without supplies of papers were having `` to deal with angry customers who are unable to get their daily newspaper '' .
National president Stuart Reddish said it also meant retailers were unable to get papers @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Newsagents have played a critical role during Covid-19 in getting newspapers into the hands of readers and this is not helpful at a time when every sale counts , '' he added .
Extinction Rebellion has planned 10 days of action and is calling on the government to do more to act on climate change .
In an updated statement following the latest protest , a spokesman said : `` We are in an emergency of unprecedented scale and the papers we have targeted are not reflecting the scale and urgency of what @ @ @ @ @ @ @ To any small businesses disrupted by the action this morning we say , 'we 're sorry .
We hope that our actions seem commensurate with the severity of the crisis we face and that this day of disruption successfully raises the alarm about the greater disruption that is coming ' . ''
On Thursday , more than 300 people were arrested during protests in central London .
Meanwhile , climate change protesters have been warned they risk large fines if they fail to comply with coronavirus rules banning gatherings of more than 30 @ @ @ @ @ @ @ set off walking from Brighton a week ago was due to march the final stretch to Parliament later .
The Met Police said risk assessments of the march in Westminster `` did not meet the required standard '' and have banned XR from taking a 20ft model boat named after teenage activist Greta Thunberg to the streets of Westminster .
At about 14:45 on Saturday a group accompanying the boat posted a video on social media saying members had been `` stopped on the A3 just after Kennington Park , by a lot @ @ @ @ @ @ @ .
XR protesters gathered in Trafalgar Square in London had been largely dispersed , police said , and a spokeswoman for the Met Police said officers were also in Euston where a protester had locked themselves to a crane .

"Whatever your politics you should be worried by this. There are also questions for the police who perhaps placed the right of these few people to protest above the right of the rest of the people to read a free press."


bbc--2020-09-05--Lewis Hamilton sets fastest lap in F1 history

Last updated on .From the section Formula 1 Lewis Hamilton beat Mercedes team-mate Valtteri Bottas to pole position at the Italian Grand Prix .
It was the fastest qualifying lap in Formula 1 history , at 164.286mph , and Hamilton 's 94th pole position .
McLaren 's Carlos Sainz was third , from Racing Point 's Sergio Perez and Red Bull 's Max Verstappen .
Neither Ferrari made it into the top 10 , with Charles Leclerc in 13th and Sebastian Vettel eliminated in the first session , in 17th place , after getting caught in a mix-up as drivers @ @ @ @ @ @ @ slipstream .
Sainz 's team-mate Lando Norris was sixth , ahead of Renault 's Daniel Ricciardo , Racing Point 's Lance Stroll , Red Bull 's Alex Albon and Alpha Tauri 's Pierre Gasly .
`` It was not the easiest , '' Hamilton said .
`` You saw how close it was and it really demanded a clean lap .
`` Valtteri was very close and pushing .
I made some big changes going into qualifying and I was little nervous but it worked out just fine . ''
Mercedes decided not @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , feeling that it was not an advantage against the competing benefits of running alone on the out lap to prepare the tyres properly and having maximum downforce in the corners .
This was in stark contrast to every other team , who all pursued the optimum track position for a slipstream , which was considered by many to be worth up to 0.7secs a lap if executed properly .
The final two parts of qualifying were relatively trouble-free but the end of the first session was chaotic as drivers jostled for position @ @ @ @ @ @ @ on track as if it was a race .
Renault 's Esteban Ocon has been called to the stewards to explain his actions against Alfa Romeo 's Kimi Raikkonen but no further action was taken on the grounds that actions were unavoidable and not dangerous .
Ferrari expected to have a bad weekend on their home track , where last year Charles Leclerc won from pole , and they were in the same uncompetitive position as in Belgium last weekend .
Leclerc qualified in exactly the same place as he did at Spa @ @ @ @ @ @ @ lap time in the first session after abusing track limits at Parabolica That meant Leclerc had to go again in the middle of the session , and he did a time good enough to get him through .
But Vettel completed his first lap and did not go again until the final minutes of the session .
He ended up caught up in the melee behind Ocon and could not improve , dropping down into the relegation zone .
Red Bull were surprisingly uncompetitive , Verstappen taking his worst grid position since the @ @ @ @ @ @ @ and McLaren were the beneficiaries , through an outstanding lap from Sainz .
Perez delivered on the potential of the Racing Point , dubbed the 'pink Mercedes ' as it is a copy of the world champions ' 2019 car , for the first time since Hungary .

Last updated on .From the section Formula 1
Sunday's Italian Grand Prix is live on 5 Live and the BBC Sport website
Lewis Hamilton beat Mercedes team-mate Valtteri Bottas to pole position at the Italian Grand Prix.
Hamilton's margin of 0.069 seconds was his sixth pole in eight races and puts him in the best place to score his 90th Grand Prix victory on Sunday.
It was the fastest qualifying lap in Formula 1 history, at 164.286mph, and Hamilton's 94th pole position.
McLaren's Carlos Sainz was third, from Racing Point's Sergio Perez and Red Bull's Max Verstappen.
Neither Ferrari made it into the top 10, with Charles Leclerc in 13th and Sebastian Vettel eliminated in the first session, in 17th place, after getting caught in a mix-up as drivers jostled for the perfect position seeking a slipstream.
Sainz's team-mate Lando Norris was sixth, ahead of Renault's Daniel Ricciardo, Racing Point's Lance Stroll, Red Bull's Alex Albon and Alpha Tauri's Pierre Gasly.
Monza is Hamilton's sixth pole in eight races
"It was not the easiest," Hamilton said. "You saw how close it was and it really demanded a clean lap.
"Valtteri was very close and pushing. I made some big changes going into qualifying and I was little nervous but it worked out just fine."
Mercedes decided not to pursue the tow for either driver, feeling that it was not an advantage against the competing benefits of running alone on the out lap to prepare the tyres properly and having maximum downforce in the corners.
This was in stark contrast to every other team, who all pursued the optimum track position for a slipstream, which was considered by many to be worth up to 0.7secs a lap if executed properly.
The final two parts of qualifying were relatively trouble-free but the end of the first session was chaotic as drivers jostled for position, some blocking rivals as they fought on track as if it was a race.
Renault's Esteban Ocon has been called to the stewards to explain his actions against Alfa Romeo's Kimi Raikkonen but no further action was taken on the grounds that actions were unavoidable and not dangerous.
A bad day for Ferrari
Vettel watched Hamilton secure his 94th pole position from the sidelines
Ferrari expected to have a bad weekend on their home track, where last year Charles Leclerc won from pole, and they were in the same uncompetitive position as in Belgium last weekend.
Leclerc qualified in exactly the same place as he did at Spa, ironically benefiting from losing his first lap time in the first session after abusing track limits at Parabolica
That meant Leclerc had to go again in the middle of the session, and he did a time good enough to get him through.
But Vettel completed his first lap and did not go again until the final minutes of the session.
He ended up caught up in the melee behind Ocon and could not improve, dropping down into the relegation zone.
Red Bull were surprisingly uncompetitive, Verstappen taking his worst grid position since the Hungarian Grand Prix three races ago, and McLaren were the beneficiaries, through an outstanding lap from Sainz.
Perez delivered on the potential of the Racing Point, dubbed the 'pink Mercedes' as it is a copy of the world champions' 2019 car, for the first time since Hungary.
Sainz said he had given "absolutely everything through the whole session" to secure third spot on the grid
Q1 resembled a race day as cars jostled each other for position on track


bbc--2020-09-03--Your pictures on the theme of 'my summer'

We asked our readers to send in their pictures on the theme of `` my summer '' .
Here are @ @ @ @ @ to us from around the world .
The next theme is `` night vision '' @ @ @ @ @ is 15 September 2020 .
Send pictures to yourpics @ bbc.co.uk or follow the link @ @ @ @ @ pictures here '' .
Further details and terms can be found by following the link @ @ @ @ @ theme , you take the picture '' , at the bottom of the page .

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Dave Smith: "Having lost many golf balls to water holes, I've often wondered what it looked like at the split-second a ball hit the water. I put my camera on a tripod, filled an aquarium with water, and put a piece of synthetic turf at the back. With a cable release in one hand and a golf ball in the other, it was just a matter of hand-eye coordination."


bbc--2020-09-05--David Bailey creates his own street art with new exhibition of paintings

He was the face of swinging London and created some of the most iconic images of the sixties .
Now @ @ @ @ @ work is returning to London on a massive scale .
David Bailey Unseen is a @ @ @ @ @ , which will share space amongst the clothes of an Oxford Street shop , as @ @ @ @ @ the building .
The BBC 's Alex Stanger went to meet him .

He was the face of swinging London and created some of the most iconic images of the sixties.
Now 82, David Bailey's work is returning to London on a massive scale.
David Bailey Unseen is a new exhibition of his paintings, which will share space amongst the clothes of Flannels, an Oxford Street shop, as well as being superimposed across the building.
The BBC's Alex Stanger went to meet him.


bbc--2020-09-05--Covid lockdown sees rise of 'barter classes' in Indian villages

Schools around the world have closed during the Covid-19 pandemic .
In India more than 320 million children have been @ @ @ @ @ .
While urban schools have been able to switch to online learning , many Indian @ @ @ @ @ digital connectivity .
In some that ’ s given rise to `` barter classes '' @

Schools around the world have closed during the Covid-19 pandemic. In India more than 320 million children have been affected, according to Unesco.
While urban schools have been able to switch to online learning, many Indian villages are struggling with poor digital connectivity. In some that’s given rise to "barter classes".
Video by Devina Gupta and Shaad Midhat


bbc--2020-09-05--Multiple sclerosis patient's home renovated by friends

A woman has been surprised by her friends and neighbours with a home renovation while she was in Mexico receiving @ @ @ @ @ MS ) .
Kath Lee , from Fleet in Hampshire , spent a month undergoing @ @ @ @ @ friends helped raise money for her medical costs .
They then realised her home also @ @ @ @ @ she could convalesce in a safe and sterile environment so worked with local businesses , @ @ @ @ @ , to complete the work while she was away .

A woman has been surprised by her friends and neighbours with a home renovation while she was in Mexico receiving treatment for multiple sclerosis (MS).
Kath Lee, from Fleet in Hampshire, spent a month undergoing stem cell treatment after her friends helped raise money for her medical costs.
They then realised her home also needed a major renovation so she could convalesce in a safe and sterile environment so worked with local businesses, who donated time and materials, to complete the work while she was away.
Video journalist: Nikki Mitchell


bbc--2020-09-05--ICYMI: Some stories for you to nibble on

From a snacking squirrel and a baby sloth , to masked celebrities and an interview interruption - just a few @ @ @ @ @ have missed this week .

From a snacking squirrel and a baby sloth, to masked celebrities and an interview interruption - just a few of the things you may have missed this week.


bbc--2020-09-05--The daring nun who secretly saved 83 Jewish children

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"Even though all compromising papers and the jewellery from the children's families had already been hidden in the most secret corners of the house, we did not feel safe," she wrote in her 1946 journal. "So, late at night, when everyone was asleep in the house, we dug a hole for the hidden things in the convent's garden and we buried as deep as possible anything that could be compromising."


bbc--2020-09-05--Armed guards provided for threatened lesbian couple

Payal and Kanchan fell in love as they trained to become policewomen .
But their love has faced resistance and they have faced threats , forcing them to go to court to seek protection from their own families , reports BBC Gujarati 's Bhargav Parikh .
When Payal met Kanchan , back in 2017 , she had no idea she would fall in love with her fellow trainee .
That year , India ’ s Supreme Court had ruled that gay sex was no longer a criminal offence , overturning a previous judgement that upheld a colonial-era law .
But @ @ @ @ @ @ @ making it difficult for same-sex relationships to be accepted by larger society .
The women , both now 24 , have been living together as a couple since 2018 in the western Indian state of Gujarat , and they know first hand what the discrimination feels like .
Their love story was thrust into the limelight last month when they approached the high court .
“ Our families are against our relationship .
They are threatening us , ” Payal said , adding that the two filed an application before the court , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ ruled that the couple should be protected by armed guards .
So-called honour killings - when someone is murdered by a family member due to the belief that they have brought shame upon the community - are not uncommon in India and other South Asian countries .
One study found that hundreds of people are killed each year in India for falling in love or marrying against their families ' wishes .
Payal and Kanchan grew up in two remote villages in Gujarat , where a conservative and patriarchal culture reigned supreme .
@ @ @ @ @ @ @ and felt inspired to enter a field dominated by men .
They settled on policing .
In 2017 , when they first met , they said others in the force were reluctant to speak to them since they came from rural parts of the state whereas the rest were from bigger towns and cities .
Instantly , they felt alienated from their peers .
The two women were assigned the same room during police training .
They fell into a comfortable routine - in the evenings , exhausted from exercise , they would @ @ @ @ @ @ @ day .
Soon , their chats stretched to include their lives and families , and the two became best friends .
“ If Payal had night duty , I handled all the work at home and if I had to work at night , Payal managed all the housework , '' Kanchan said .
“ We were happy with our work and as time passed , our lives started to revolve around each other.
” “ On 31 December 2017 , we hugged each other on New Year ’ s Eve just before @ @ @ @ @ @ @ maybe the first time we had hugged each other - and we felt completely different , ” Kanchan said .
Soon , the families of the two women began asking them to get married - Kanchan ’ s family had already lined up suitable matches for her - but they managed to stave off the pressure .
It was at the end of last year when their colleagues living in the police quarters found out about their relationship that the couple decided to tell their own families .
“ One day , my @ @ @ @ @ @ @ duty .
They stopped our vehicle in the middle of the road and threatened us , ” Payal alleged .
“ They also came by the police quarters once and created a scene there , calling us names and using abusive language .
The couple are happy that the court has ruled in their favour and granted them protection - it ’ s given them some time to think of the future .

Soon, the families of the two women began asking them to get married - Kanchan’s family had already lined up suitable matches for her - but they managed to stave off the pressure. It was at the end of last year when their colleagues living in the police quarters found out about their relationship that the couple decided to tell their own families.


bbc--2020-09-05--Kazuyoshi Miura: A professional footballer at 53 - how he does it

The second round of the Japanese League Cup is not normally international news .
But when top-division side Yokohama FC played Sagan Tosu last month , it made headlines around the world .
Why ?
Because the Yokohama captain , Kazuyoshi Miura , was 53 years old .
Miura 's never-ending career fascinates football fans around the world .
His contract extensions are reported by the BBC and CNN .
He holds the Guinness record for “ world ’ s oldest goalscorer ” .
Even his inclusion in the FIFA 20 computer game – after first appearing in it 24 @ @ @ @ @ @ @ who is “ King Kazu ” and why does he keep playing ?
What ’ s the secret to a football career that is at least 15 years longer than average ?
The story , he told the BBC , began with the 1970 World Cup , Pele , and an 8mm camera .
Miura grew up in a football family in Shizuoka , where the game has long been popular .
His older brother Yasutoshi also became a professional , and their father was an avid fan .
“ My father was @ @ @ @ @ @ @ World Cup , ” Miura says , speaking via a translator .
“ He filmed the matches by 8mm video camera .
At that time , Pele was playing , and I grew up watching the video taken by my father.
” Miura was only three in 1970 , but the home-made video , looping over and over , had a lasting impact .
“ I became a fan of Brazilian football , ” he says .
“ From the time I was a little boy , I wanted to live as a @ @ @ @ @ @ @ had links to Brazil and the teenager left school in Shizuoka aged 15 to move there .
“ At that time there was no J-League [ the professional Japanese league that began in 1993 ] , ” Miura recalls .
“ So there was no way of becoming a professional soccer player in Japan.
” He signed for Juventus , a professional team in Sao Paulo , but it was not an easy start .
He lived in a dormitory with other youth players , aged 15 to 20 , and spoke little @ @ @ @ @ @ @ understand the language , and the customs were different , so naturally I felt lonely , ” Miura says .
“ The first three months was really hard.
” But he was determined to improve .
He threw himself into training sessions .
He learned Portuguese .
He made friends .
He had to succeed in Brazil because , really , there was no Plan B .
When asked whether there was an alternative career , had football not worked out , he pauses .
“ I don ’ t have any idea @ @ @ @ @ @ @ “ All I wanted was to be a football player .
So this is the hardest question to answer.
” In 1986 , three years after moving to Brazil , Miura signed for Santos , where Pele – star of those 8mm videos – played most of his career .
He stayed in Brazil , at a number of clubs , for more than four years .
He returned to Japan in 1990 , a bona fide superstar .
In 1993 , the J-League ’ s first season , Miura was named most @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , England ’ s Gary Lineker .
In 1994 , he moved on loan to Genoa in Italy , becoming the first Japanese player in Serie A .
He needed surgery after his first game – he hit the back of Italian legend Franco Baresi ’ s head – scored only one goal , and stayed only one season .
But his spell in Italy only increased his status back home .
“ It ’ s hard to overstate his importance , ” says football journalist in Japan , Sean Carroll .
“ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ birth and development of professional football in Japan… he has achieved a god-like status , in some ways I guess similar to Maradona in Argentina , '' Carroll says .
“ There is a whole generation of professional players , maybe even two generations now , who cite him as their role model when they were kids.
” But why is he still playing ?
In 2005 – aged 38 – Miura signed for his current club , Yokohama FC , in the Japanese second division .
He became a key player , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ promotion to the top division in 2006 .
Although they were relegated after one season , Miura remained a regular for Yokohama in the second tier well into his 40s .
In 2016 , he played 20 times , scoring twice .
He was 49 years old .
Miura rarely gets injured ( except when running into Franco Baresi ) and is renowned for his fitness regime .
He speaks to the BBC after training , in a dressing gown , holding an ice pack to his leg .
“ For sure , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ players to recover , ” he says .
“ But even though it ’ s very hard , I have this passion of wanting to play , so that keeps me going.
” And , as well as his fitness , there ’ s another reason for Miura ’ s ultra-long career – his popularity .
In 1998 , just before Japan ’ s first World Cup , Miura was dropped from the squad , adding a layer of sympathy to his superstar status .
But more importantly , he is known for @ @ @ @ @ @ @ editor of J Soccer magazine , Alan Gibson , first met Miura in 1993 , and went on to referee him a number of times in friendly games when he played for Vissel Kobe in the early 2000s .
“ He was a gentleman on the field – I really enjoyed refereeing him , ” says Gibson .
“ Everyone loves him .
Although he ’ s ‘ the King ’ , he didn ’ t make the World Cup .
And , as he played for Yokohama for so long , he @ @ @ @ @ @ @ with a team everyone hates.
” That popularity makes more people watch Yokohama games – “ If they know he ’ s playing , an extra 3,000 or 4,000 people turn up , ” says Gibson – and encourages a number of sponsors .
That links to a final reason for Miura ’ s longevity : the respectful – or perhaps sentimental – streak than runs through Japanese society .
One coach , while praising Miura , tells the BBC that “ King Kazu ” has become a “ panda bear ” at @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , much-loved curiosity , rather than a serious player .
Despite playing twice in the League Cup , he has not played in the league this season , and only played three times last year .
Sean Carroll says Miura 's experience is important in the Yokohama dressing room , but agrees that his ultra-long career says something about Japanese society more widely .
“ Hierarchy is incredibly important in Japan anyway , but when you ’ ve contributed as much as Kazu , he pretty much has a contract as long as @ @ @ @ @ @ @ .
“ The idea of him ‘ working hard ’ and ‘ acting as an inspiration ’ is oft-repeated by fans and the media – fulfilling a kind of ‘ anything-is-possible ’ fairy tale .
Which again , reflects Japanese culture at large.
” Even that , though , doesn ’ t quite explain Miura ’ s longevity .
After all , it ’ s not the supporters , or the sponsors , who push through the pain barrier , day in , day out , aged 53 .
Miura is often asked @ @ @ @ @ @ @ his career .
He insists there is no secret – other than hard work and dedication .
But perhaps the secret comes in the answer to the final question .
Does 53-year-old Kazu , training every day in Yokohama , enjoy kicking a ball as much as the 15-year-old boy who flew to Brazil with a few words of Portuguese and head full of dreams ?
“ Yes , I still enjoy playing football – every moment , ” he says .
“ Really , I enjoy it even more than when I @ @ @ @ @

But he was determined to improve. He threw himself into training sessions. He learned Portuguese. He made friends. He had to succeed in Brazil because, really, there was no Plan B. When asked whether there was an alternative career, had football not worked out, he pauses.


bbc--2020-09-05--Romanian tourists swamp village loved by Prince Charles

It is arguably the most popular village in Transylvania .
Not only is it a Unesco World Heritage site but the Prince of Wales has owned a traditional farmhouse here since 2006 .
The prince fell for the area 's historic beauty more than two decades ago .
For years he has helped develop schemes to preserve heritage architecture and what his local foundation describes as a `` way of life unchanged for hundreds of years '' .
It is a scorching Saturday at the tail end of summer , and a steady stream of cars is filing into Viscri @ @ @ @ @ @ @ and dust as traffic begins to clog up the unsurfaced village roads .
Ursula Radu-Fernolend , 35 , is a Saxon ( descendant of settlers from present-day Germany ) whose ancestors have lived in Viscri for centuries .
She 's also a board member for the Mihai Eminescu Trust ( MET ) , which for 20 years has played a key role in preserving the village 's architecture .
Training and education is offered , in what the prince has referred to as `` an extraordinary part of the world '' .
He @ @ @ @ @ @ @ by `` man 's management and relationship with nature '' .
`` We have 70 chickens and ducks , but there are too many cars on the road now to let them out to eat the grass , '' villager Cristian Somu complains .
'Every year it gets harder' '' It 's much more crowded than last time we were here two years ago , '' says Cosmin Cherees , a 37-year-old engineer from Targu Mures , who is cycling around the village with his family .
`` We need to find a @ @ @ @ @ @ @ before heading out to put up election posters to help her husband 's mayoral campaign .
`` If the authenticity goes then we are just a museum , and we really do n't want to become that . ''

"If the authenticity goes then we are just a museum, and we really don't want to become that."


bbc--2020-09-05--The orphans of Angola's secret massacre seek the truth

A massacre in Angola that followed a split in the governing MPLA party not long after independence has been shrouded @ @ @ @ @ more than four decades .
But some of those affected are coming together to demand @ @ @ @ @ to the BBC 's Mary Harper , some for the first time in public .
@ @ @ @ @ they did no such thing ; rather they had organised a mass demonstration and a @ @ @ @ @ to call people on to the streets of the capital , Luanda , in order @ @ @ @ @ Neto to clean up his government .
'It 's not about revenge' '' It 's @ @ @ @ @ .
It is about honour and truth and a better Angola .
In order to @ @ @ @ @ to come out .
Only then can we have healing . ''
You may also @ @ @ @ @ ca n't mourn without the truth '

A massacre in Angola that followed a split in the governing MPLA party not long after independence has been shrouded in secrecy and fear for more than four decades. But some of those affected are coming together to demand answers and have been speaking to the BBC's Mary Harper, some for the first time in public.


bbc--2020-09-04--Black Panther: The 'weird signs' that led Chadwick Boseman to Wakanda

`` I got in a conversation with the security on set for this movie Gods of Egypt in Australia , @ @ @ @ @ And we did n't really talk that much about Black Panther but he put the @ @ @ @ @ in my trailer , his original issue of Black Panther from when he was a @ @ @ @ @ note in it to say 'You 're going to get this role . '
'' @ @ @ @ @ responsible for Chad and Black Panther , '' he says .
`` Chad did it @ @ @ @ @ merit , his skill , his beauty , his amazing talent .
He did it @ @ @ @ @ want him to think I was trying to take credit just by giving him a @ @ @ @ @ also be interested in :

"I got in a conversation with the security on set for this movie Gods of Egypt in Australia," he said. "And we didn't really talk that much about Black Panther but he put the first issue of Black Panther in my trailer, his original issue of Black Panther from when he was a kid, and wrote a note in it to say 'You're going to get this role.'"


bbc--2020-09-05--Sterling nets late penalty as England win in Iceland after chaotic finish

Last updated on .From the section England Raheem Sterling 's late penalty gave England victory as they started their Uefa Nations League campaign in Iceland - despite the hosts squandering the chance to rescue a point by missing an injury-time spot-kick .
England , who had earlier been reduced to 10 men after Kyle Walker was also sent off for second yellow card , had to survive that last-gasp scare when Iceland were awarded a penalty for Joe Gomez 's foul but Birkir Bjarnason was wildly off target .
England made hard work of the win against a stubborn and @ @ @ @ @ @ @ more positive side .
Southgate 's team , playing their first game since the 4-0 win in Kosovo in November , showed understandable rustiness with the Premier League restart still a week away and England were frustrated further when Walker was dismissed for a second yellow card with 20 minutes left .
Walker 's recall was marred by his challenge on Arnor Traustason - but England had an even bigger cause for complaint when an early goal from captain Harry Kane was ruled out for offside .
There was no VAR for this @ @ @ @ @ @ @ as he pounced on Sterling 's left-wing cross .
This was a lifeless affair behind closed doors against the side who humiliated England at Euro 2016 and Southgate will have learned little despite giving a debut to Manchester City 's Phil Foden and introducing Manchester United teenage striker Mason Greenwood for his debut late on - but he will take the victory before Tuesday 's game in Denmark .
• None How you rated the players There was very little positive for England in this match other than the victory itself but it @ @ @ @ @ @ @ of when this game was being played and its circumstances .
This was almost like a behind-closed-doors pre-season friendly in an international guise so it comes as no surprise that England lacked the sort of sharpness and inspiration that would have come with more match practice .
Southgate will have been delighted to give Foden the first of many England caps while Greenwood will also have enjoyed his taste of international action during his cameo after coming on as a substitute for Kane .
Sterling calmly rolled in the penalty that eventually gave @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Southgate will not have welcomed Walker 's rash challenge , irrespective of the level of contact , that brought him his second yellow card and the clumsy foul by Gomez that almost threw Iceland that injury-time lifeline .
England , as a plus , were patient and probing and , despite the colourless nature of the game , deserved the win , even though it arrived so late .
England move on to face Denmark in Copenhagen on Tuesday buoyed by these opening three points and Southgate will have been delighted to spend @ @ @ @ @ @ @ the international hiatus as a result of the coronavirus pandemic .
He was able to watch some of the younger players he introduced into the squad at close quarters and may be able to see them in England action once more against the Danes .
Iceland were defiant , as they always are , rigid in defence and lacking in attacking ambition , willing to simply keep England at arm 's length and maybe land a counter-punch .
They almost did with that late penalty but England survived to make a winning restart @ @ @ @ @ @ @ All three of England 's victories in the Nations League have been by a different one-goal margin ( 3-2 v Spain , 2-1 v Croatia , 1-0 v Iceland ) .
• None Iceland have lost all five of their Nations League games by an aggregate score of 1-14 .
• None Iceland failed to have a single shot on target in this match , while Sterling 's winning penalty was England 's only attempt on target in the second half .
• None Sterling 's goal was his 13th in all competitions @ @ @ @ @ @ @ the penalty spot .
He has had a hand in 17 goals in his last 12 appearances for England ( 11 goals , 6 assists ) .
• None Danny Ings made his first appearance for England since October 2015 - 1,790 days ago .
It is the longest gap between England games for an outfield player since Lee Dixon went 1,911 days between 1993 and 1999 .
• None Walker became the first England player to be sent off since Sterling v Ecuador in June 2014 .
• None Greenwood and Foden @ @ @ @ @ @ @ match - it is the first time a Manchester United and a Manchester City player have earned their first England caps in the same game since September 1992 v Spain ( Paul Ince and David White ) .

Last updated on .From the section England
Sterling has scored 11 goals in his last 12 England games, as well as contributing six assists
Raheem Sterling's late penalty gave England victory as they started their Uefa Nations League campaign in Iceland - despite the hosts squandering the chance to rescue a point by missing an injury-time spot-kick.
In an chaotic end to a largely dull encounter, Sterling looked to have secured three points for manager Gareth Southgate's side when he rolled in an 89th-minute spot-kick after his shot was handled by Sverrir Ingason, who was then sent off after receiving a second yellow card.
England, who had earlier been reduced to 10 men after Kyle Walker was also sent off for second yellow card, had to survive that last-gasp scare when Iceland were awarded a penalty for Joe Gomez's foul but Birkir Bjarnason was wildly off target.
England made hard work of the win against a stubborn and well-organised Iceland but were the better and more positive side.
Southgate's team, playing their first game since the 4-0 win in Kosovo in November, showed understandable rustiness with the Premier League restart still a week away and England were frustrated further when Walker was dismissed for a second yellow card with 20 minutes left.
Walker's recall was marred by his challenge on Arnor Traustason - but England had an even bigger cause for complaint when an early goal from captain Harry Kane was ruled out for offside. There was no VAR for this game and replays showed Kane was onside as he pounced on Sterling's left-wing cross.
This was a lifeless affair behind closed doors against the side who humiliated England at Euro 2016 and Southgate will have learned little despite giving a debut to Manchester City's Phil Foden and introducing Manchester United teenage striker Mason Greenwood for his debut late on - but he will take the victory before Tuesday's game in Denmark.
Patient England leave it late
There was very little positive for England in this match other than the victory itself but it must also be placed in the context of when this game was being played and its circumstances.
This was almost like a behind-closed-doors pre-season friendly in an international guise so it comes as no surprise that England lacked the sort of sharpness and inspiration that would have come with more match practice.
Southgate will have been delighted to give Foden the first of many England caps while Greenwood will also have enjoyed his taste of international action during his cameo after coming on as a substitute for Kane.
Sterling calmly rolled in the penalty that eventually gave England their opening Nations League win but Southgate will not have welcomed Walker's rash challenge, irrespective of the level of contact, that brought him his second yellow card and the clumsy foul by Gomez that almost threw Iceland that injury-time lifeline.
England, as a plus, were patient and probing and, despite the colourless nature of the game, deserved the win, even though it arrived so late.
Southgate looks to Denmark
England move on to face Denmark in Copenhagen on Tuesday buoyed by these opening three points and Southgate will have been delighted to spend so much time with his players after the international hiatus as a result of the coronavirus pandemic.
He was able to watch some of the younger players he introduced into the squad at close quarters and may be able to see them in England action once more against the Danes.
Iceland were defiant, as they always are, rigid in defence and lacking in attacking ambition, willing to simply keep England at arm's length and maybe land a counter-punch.
They almost did with that late penalty but England survived to make a winning restart to their international calendar.
Ings' long wait - the stats
All three of England's victories in the Nations League have been by a different one-goal margin (3-2 v Spain, 2-1 v Croatia, 1-0 v Iceland).
Iceland have lost all five of their Nations League games by an aggregate score of 1-14.
Iceland failed to have a single shot on target in this match, while Sterling's winning penalty was England's only attempt on target in the second half.
Sterling's goal was his 13th in all competitions for England, but his first from the penalty spot. He has had a hand in 17 goals in his last 12 appearances for England (11 goals, 6 assists).
Danny Ings made his first appearance for England since October 2015 - 1,790 days ago. It is the longest gap between England games for an outfield player since Lee Dixon went 1,911 days between 1993 and 1999.
Walker became the first England player to be sent off since Sterling v Ecuador in June 2014.
Greenwood and Foden both made their England debuts in this match - it is the first time a Manchester United and a Manchester City player have earned their first England caps in the same game since September 1992 v Spain (Paul Ince and David White).