thedcclothesline--2020-04-24--The Unfortunate Things We May Have Learned About the People in Our Circle During Lockdown

Most of us in the United States have been under some form of lockdown or restriction for more than a month now .
It has been a stressful time for many due to fear , health concerns , and financial worries .
One of the biggest surprises for a lot of us has been the way other people behave when they ’ re under pressure .
I ’ m not just talking about the folks you see panicking on YouTube videos or the ones you see saying nasty things on Twitter .
I ’ m talking about the people with @ @ @ @ @ @ @ : our family , our friends , our loved ones – the folks who make up our inner circle .
Who stole the wonderful , rational human beings we used to know ?
You may all be locking down together , squashing you all into a smaller space than you ’ re used to , and spending more time together than normal , perhaps suddenly putting multiple generations together .
Or you may live nearby with the plan to later stay together .
It may just be the members of your family who @ @ @ @ @ @ @ hours a day , seven days a week .
take our poll - story continues below Either way , this has probably been an interesting look at your group dynamic .
And for some of us , it may not have all been pretty .
It ’ s been a crash course in human behavior .
Now , this may not apply to you at all .
Your lockdown experience may have been like walking back in time with the golden sunlight painting everything .
Your children may have been perfect angels , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ kitchen table in the morning after a healthy breakfast about which they did not complain , and then going outdoors in the afternoon to frolic at a safe social distance in the backyard .
You may be spending non-stressed time with your partner and remembering exactly why you got together in the first place .
You may have 3 generations , joyfully cohabitating under one roof .
You may be serving farm-fresh meals and wiping heinies with the toilet paper you collected over the past year and stored in perfect conditions in all @ @ @ @ @ @ @ could live in one of those neighborhoods having the fun socially distanced block parties and swapping homemade bread for fresh eggs , a neighborhood where everyone looks after everyone else .
Or you may be like the rest of the world , wondering , “ How could I have raised/married/been friends with/moved near someone so stupid/naive/ill-tempered/batcrap crazy ?
” This whole thing is far from over but I think many of us are already seeing the truth of what Selco wrote about how you don ’ t really know someone until all hell @ @ @ @ @ @ @ we ’ ve run into have been annoying inconveniences because things , while difficult , aren ’ t that bad .
We ’ re not literally fighting to the death for survival on a daily basis .
Personal interactions are shockingly important and this is something many of us had underestimated up until now .
A lot of us thought that once things began to go sideways , our friends , neighbors , and coworkers would all get on board with the plan .
They ’ d finally see that we are not @ @ @ @ @ @ @ what we ’ ve been doing actually makes a lot of sense .
They ’ d congratulate us on our wisdom , they ’ d be grateful to be spending this time with us , and finally , at last , they ’ d understand that prepping is smart .
• Partners trying to reign in our spending • Loved ones who don ’ t understand why you ’ re still buying toilet paper every time you see it • Teenagers trying to maintain their social lives • Those same teenagers saying that @ @ @ @ @ @ @ because they saw someone talking about it on Tik Tok • Family members still , right in the middle of this whole darn thing , saying smugly , “ You ’ re overreacting.
” • Those in your circle who stubbornly refuse to take any precautions whatsoever , even though they ’ re elderly people with asthma and diabetes , because “ it ’ s all a hoax ” that you fell for • The folks who aren ’ t nearly as patient and loving with your children now that they have to @ @ @ @ @ @ @ are suffering from mental distress now that all the things that were “ normal ” to them are no longer an option .
At a time when you thought that everyone would finally see the wisdom of your ways , they don ’ t .
Now , when your years of prepping are finally paying off , people are still not interested .
How can this be ?
These dynamics are very important and can make or break your group .
Some issues the people in your group my have had Here ’ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ in your group are there because you love them .
No matter how annoying , frustrating , or upsetting they may be right now , these are people you care about .
If everything has run like clockwork , you may not even need to read this article .
But if you ’ ve been surprised by the folks with whom you ’ re taking shelter , hopefully , the following suggestions will be of some help .
It ’ s important to think of the reasons that your family members may be @ @ @ @ @ @ @ This can give you some clues as to how to best deal with them .
One of the most common reasons you ’ ll see people acting out is because everything in their world has changed .
A few months ago , they were making all sorts of plans for the year ahead , only to have everything yanked away from them without warning .
What they ’ re feeling ( and you may be feeling it too ) is grief .
A person who is grieving may not be the most rational @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , they may be sad , they may feel completely helpless .
Change is difficult to deal with for most people , so try to be extra patient with them .
They are no longer in control .
If there ’ s one thing that is absolutely true across the board , it ’ s that there are many things right now we can not control .
We ’ ve got new executive orders and bills cropping up on a daily basis .
We have restrictions on how much toilet paper we can @ @ @ @ @ @ @ to the packages of meat you can pick up on one shopping trip and only a certain number of people can be in the store at once .
Workplaces are closed , leaving people without a way to make money .
Unemployment is taking for-freaking-ever to come in for some folks , and they don ’ t have a dime to their names .
For these people , it ’ s important to give them tasks that allow them some control .
More people are dealing with mental illness .
Currently , a @ @ @ @ @ @ @ symptoms of mental illness .
For some it ’ s situational , and for others , it ’ s the worsening of a chronic condition .
This is a very real problem .
Prescriptions for anti-anxiety medications have increased by 34 % between Feb. 16 – March 15 .
Suicide hotlines are reporting an increase in calls .
And these are just the people who are asking for help .
There are many more people struggling who are not getting help .
Watch for signs like a change in sleep pattern , sudden @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , an increase in the use of substances like drugs , alcohol , and tobacco , and unusual behavior .
Depression and anxiety are very real issues and not a sign of weakness .
These mental illnesses can be deadly if left to fester .
If you feel that a family member may be suffering from depression or anxiety , the CDC has advice and a list of resources that may be helpful .
Some folks just plain don ’ t understand what ’ s going on .
They ’ re not trying @ @ @ @ @ @ @ – they ’ re getting a crash course – on the job training – in a topic you ’ ve been willingly learning about for years .
There ’ s no way a person is going to go from their cushy 9-5 lifestyle , someone who has never known anything but abundance , and suddenly understand the importance of things like pantry inventory , rationing , and being ready to board up the windows .
Think back to when you started prepping .
A lot of us started due to a natural disaster @ @ @ @ @ @ @ those are far “ softer ” events than the one we ’ re facing now – one with job loss , financial insecurity , and a disrupted supply chain .
These folks right now are jumping into the deep end and they ’ re convinced that soon , everything will be getting “ back to normal.
” So try to have a little bit of patience with them .
They ’ re not trying to sabotage you when they say , “ I think we have enough canned goods ” or “ Wait…did @ @ @ @ @ @ @ by the backdoor ?
A TRIPWIRE ?
” They legitimately don ’ t understand the situation , and it ’ s up to you to educate them as gently as possible while still keeping them from eating all the treats in the pantry because “ you can just buy more next week.
” Some people just aren ’ t helpful in a crisis .
There are simply some people who are not useful in times of trouble .
Maybe they don ’ t want to help or maybe they ’ re incapable of @ @ @ @ @ @ @ than one person in my life who refuses to deal with difficult things .
They just want to procrastinate until the crisis is over or pretend that it ’ s not happening .
If you ’ re a person who lives a prepared lifestyle , these folks can be some of the most difficult to deal with because it ’ s harder to understand their mentality .
You don ’ t have to like it but you do have to accept that this is the way they are .
Only in movies does @ @ @ @ @ @ @ in despair pick up a tool and suddenly get the courage to deal with the situation .
If your group includes people in these categories , it ’ s best to find tasks they can perform that don ’ t require a great deal of stress or judgment .
Keep them busy with the things they ’ re more comfortable with and put them where they ’ ll do the least harm .
Maybe the person is a good cook .
Give them some guidelines for cooking from the pantry and let them @ @ @ @ @ @ @ soothed by gardening .
It ’ s a great way to keep them occupied and productive at the same time .
This person might also be good with the children .
Find the spot for them where they ’ ll do the least harm to your overall plan .
As Terry Trahan wrote , sometimes you just have to take out the trash and keep even the less glamorous tasks going .
Not all of these suggestions are “ nice.
” Some of the ideas for dealing with family members could cause real @ @ @ @ @ @ @ relationship .
It ’ s up to you to decide whether or not the situation warrants more extreme measures .
It ’ s something nobody can decide for you .
Base your decisions on the seriousness of the situation and try to be respectful of the wishes of others as much as possible .
You ’ re part of a family , not part of a SWAT team or a military unit .
Remember – you ’ re dealing with the people you love here .
Temper your responses accordingly and try to @ @ @ @ @ @ @ .
Although it isn ’ t always the easiest course of action , it ’ s often better to walk away from an argument than to keep it going .
You can ’ t force your spouse to admit you were right and he or she was wrong if they ’ re not ready to accept that yet .
“ Pulling rank ” on family members is more likely to cause trouble than cooperation .
Personal satisfaction is not a worthwhile reason to get into a fight .
Do your part to keep @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , some things actually are worth the fight .
In issues of OPSEC , your family comes first and you can not have family members out running their mouths or giving away your supplies without a conversation about it first .
The same is true for matters of security .
Basically , if it ’ s a matter of life and death , it ’ s worth having an argument .
Otherwise , it ’ s not .
You may have to keep secrets .
Regarding OPSEC , you may have to become @ @ @ @ @ @ @ members of your group .
If your spouse thinks you ’ ve spent enough but you ’ re certain you need more of a certain item , sometimes it might be better to ask forgiveness than to ask permission .
I ’ m not saying to outright lie and every situation is different .
This is something that could potentially cause real problems in a relationship , so you need to think it through before making your decision to do that .
On the other hand , if you have teens who want @ @ @ @ @ @ @ with everybody , it might be better if they don ’ t know exactly how many supplies you have .
They don ’ t necessarily need access to the pantry or storage area .
You can disguise a lot of foods by putting them inside plain cardboard boxes and setting up a little code so you ’ ll know where to find what you need .
Remember , people can ’ t tell others things they don ’ t know .
Sometimes you have to let people learn the hard way .
If @ @ @ @ @ @ @ won ’ t take no for an answer , they may need to learn a lesson the hard way .
Obviously , this should not be a lesson that affects other members of the group .
As a parent , I ’ ve always been a fan of cause-and-effect discipline .
If you don ’ t study for your test , you fail and that is the punishment .
If you don ’ t get up and get to school on time , you ’ re tardy and the school will give you @ @ @ @ @ @ @ finish your science project , you won ’ t get to take the field trip with the rest of the class to attend the science fair .
This works in preparedness scenarios too .
Say for example you ’ ve doled out the snack food to make it last for as many weeks as possible but you have one person who simply won ’ t stop helping himself , divide the snack food into quantities , and put everyone ’ s name on their containers .
Obviously , it ’ s not going @ @ @ @ @ @ @ going to run out of their snacks .
It ’ s imperative that the other members of the family don ’ t share if you want the person to learn their lesson .
This can apply with all sorts of different things – if the person isn ’ t pulling his or her weight , he or she should not reap the benefits of everyone else ’ s work .
You may want to make some changes in the future .
While I ’ d suggest not making any major decisions when you @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , the things you ’ re experiencing right now may cause you to reconsider your plans for future events .
Obviously you can ’ t kick your immediate family members to the curb with a bag of beans and rice , but folks who are a bit more distant ?
Cousins , friends from work , that sibling you still fight with constantly 35 years later ?
Sheltering together may not be your wisest or most peaceful choice .
Use the things you ’ re learning now to make future events run more @ @ @ @ @ @ @ you can make to help things go a little more peacefully the next time around .
This could also mean setting expectations more clearly ahead of time or even deciding that you ’ re not meant to be an apocalypse team .
Have you run into any complications with your group ?
Tomorrow , we ’ ll talk about dealing with people outside of your inner circle .
What about you – did the response of anyone within your group come as a surprise to you ?
Share your thoughts in the comments @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , preparedness , frugality , voluntaryism , and the pursuit of liberty on her website , The Organic Prepper .
She is widely republished across alternative media and she curates all the most important news links on her aggregate site , PreppersDailyNews.com .
Daisy is the best-selling author of 4 books and runs a small digital publishing company .
You can find her on Facebook , Pinterest , and Twitter .

Most of us in the United States have been under some form of lockdown or restriction for more than a month now. It has been a stressful time for many due to fear, health concerns, and financial worries.
One of the biggest surprises for a lot of us has been the way other people behave when they’re under pressure. I’m not just talking about the folks you see panicking on YouTube videos or the ones you see saying nasty things on Twitter. I’m talking about the people with whom we interact on a regular basis: our family, our friends, our loved ones – the folks who make up our inner circle.
Who stole the wonderful, rational human beings we used to know?
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You may all be locking down together, squashing you all into a smaller space than you’re used to, and spending more time together than normal, perhaps suddenly putting multiple generations together. Or you may live nearby with the plan to later stay together. It may just be the members of your family who normally live together, but not 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
Either way, this has probably been an interesting look at your group dynamic. And for some of us, it may not have all been pretty.
It’s been a crash course in human behavior.
Now, this may not apply to you at all. Your lockdown experience may have been like walking back in time with the golden sunlight painting everything. Your children may have been perfect angels, content to do their schoolwork at the kitchen table in the morning after a healthy breakfast about which they did not complain, and then going outdoors in the afternoon to frolic at a safe social distance in the backyard.
You may be spending non-stressed time with your partner and remembering exactly why you got together in the first place. You may have 3 generations, joyfully cohabitating under one roof. You may be serving farm-fresh meals and wiping heinies with the toilet paper you collected over the past year and stored in perfect conditions in all that free space you have. You could live in one of those neighborhoods having the fun socially distanced block parties and swapping homemade bread for fresh eggs, a neighborhood where everyone looks after everyone else.
Or you may be like the rest of the world, wondering, “How could I have raised/married/been friends with/moved near someone so stupid/naive/ill-tempered/batcrap crazy?”
This whole thing is far from over but I think many of us are already seeing the truth of what Selco wrote about how you don’t really know someone until all hell breaks loose.
Most of the things we’ve run into have been annoying inconveniences because things, while difficult, aren’t that bad. We’re not literally fighting to the death for survival on a daily basis. Personal interactions are shockingly important and this is something many of us had underestimated up until now.
Behavior within the group
A lot of us thought that once things began to go sideways, our friends, neighbors, and coworkers would all get on board with the plan. They’d finally see that we are not, in fact, crazy and that what we’ve been doing actually makes a lot of sense. They’d congratulate us on our wisdom, they’d be grateful to be spending this time with us, and finally, at last, they’d understand that prepping is smart.
Instead, we’ve experienced things like:
Partners trying to reign in our spending
Loved ones who don’t understand why you’re still buying toilet paper every time you see it
Teenagers trying to maintain their social lives
Those same teenagers saying that you’re “hoarding food” because they saw someone talking about it on Tik Tok
Family members still, right in the middle of this whole darn thing, saying smugly, “You’re overreacting.”
Those in your circle who stubbornly refuse to take any precautions whatsoever, even though they’re elderly people with asthma and diabetes, because “it’s all a hoax” that you fell for
The folks who aren’t nearly as patient and loving with your children now that they have to live with them
Loved ones who are suffering from mental distress now that all the things that were “normal” to them are no longer an option.
At a time when you thought that everyone would finally see the wisdom of your ways, they don’t. Now, when your years of prepping are finally paying off, people are still not interested. How can this be?
These dynamics are very important and can make or break your group.
Some issues the people in your group my have had
Here’s a quick reminder: the people in your group are there because you love them. No matter how annoying, frustrating, or upsetting they may be right now, these are people you care about.
If everything has run like clockwork, you may not even need to read this article. But if you’ve been surprised by the folks with whom you’re taking shelter, hopefully, the following suggestions will be of some help.
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It’s important to think of the reasons that your family members may be acting in manners that are unbecoming. This can give you some clues as to how to best deal with them.
Everything has changed.
One of the most common reasons you’ll see people acting out is because everything in their world has changed. A few months ago, they were making all sorts of plans for the year ahead, only to have everything yanked away from them without warning. What they’re feeling (and you may be feeling it too) is grief. A person who is grieving may not be the most rational soul around. They may be angry, they may be sad, they may feel completely helpless. Change is difficult to deal with for most people, so try to be extra patient with them.
They are no longer in control.
If there’s one thing that is absolutely true across the board, it’s that there are many things right now we cannot control. We’ve got new executive orders and bills cropping up on a daily basis. We have restrictions on how much toilet paper we can buy. There’s a limit to the packages of meat you can pick up on one shopping trip and only a certain number of people can be in the store at once. Workplaces are closed, leaving people without a way to make money. Unemployment is taking for-freaking-ever to come in for some folks, and they don’t have a dime to their names. For these people, it’s important to give them tasks that allow them some control.
More people are dealing with mental illness.
Currently, a lot of people are dealing with the symptoms of mental illness. For some it’s situational, and for others, it’s the worsening of a chronic condition. This is a very real problem. Prescriptions for anti-anxiety medications have increased by 34% between Feb. 16 – March 15. Suicide hotlines are reporting an increase in calls. And these are just the people who are asking for help. There are many more people struggling who are not getting help. Watch for signs like a change in sleep pattern, sudden anger, extreme sadness, panic attacks, an increase in the use of substances like drugs, alcohol, and tobacco, and unusual behavior.
Depression and anxiety are very real issues and not a sign of weakness. These mental illnesses can be deadly if left to fester. If you feel that a family member may be suffering from depression or anxiety, the CDC has advice and a list of resources that may be helpful.
People who don’t understand
Some folks just plain don’t understand what’s going on. They’re not trying to deliberately sabotage you, but remember – they’re getting a crash course – on the job training – in a topic you’ve been willingly learning about for years. There’s no way a person is going to go from their cushy 9-5 lifestyle, someone who has never known anything but abundance, and suddenly understand the importance of things like pantry inventory, rationing, and being ready to board up the windows.
Think back to when you started prepping. A lot of us started due to a natural disaster or a job loss and both of those are far “softer” events than the one we’re facing now – one with job loss, financial insecurity, and a disrupted supply chain. These folks right now are jumping into the deep end and they’re convinced that soon, everything will be getting “back to normal.”
So try to have a little bit of patience with them. They’re not trying to sabotage you when they say, “I think we have enough canned goods” or “Wait…did you just say you set a tripwire by the backdoor? A TRIPWIRE?” They legitimately don’t understand the situation, and it’s up to you to educate them as gently as possible while still keeping them from eating all the treats in the pantry because “you can just buy more next week.”
Some people just aren’t helpful in a crisis.
There are simply some people who are not useful in times of trouble. Maybe they don’t want to help or maybe they’re incapable of helping. I’ve known more than one person in my life who refuses to deal with difficult things. They just want to procrastinate until the crisis is over or pretend that it’s not happening.
If you’re a person who lives a prepared lifestyle, these folks can be some of the most difficult to deal with because it’s harder to understand their mentality. You don’t have to like it but you do have to accept that this is the way they are. Only in movies does the person who generally wrings her hands in despair pick up a tool and suddenly get the courage to deal with the situation.
If your group includes people in these categories, it’s best to find tasks they can perform that don’t require a great deal of stress or judgment. Keep them busy with the things they’re more comfortable with and put them where they’ll do the least harm. Maybe the person is a good cook. Give them some guidelines for cooking from the pantry and let them make the meals. Perhaps they are soothed by gardening. It’s a great way to keep them occupied and productive at the same time. This person might also be good with the children. Find the spot for them where they’ll do the least harm to your overall plan. As Terry Trahan wrote, sometimes you just have to take out the trash and keep even the less glamorous tasks going.
Not all of these suggestions are “nice.”
Some of the ideas for dealing with family members could cause real problems within your group or within your relationship. It’s up to you to decide whether or not the situation warrants more extreme measures. It’s something nobody can decide for you. Base your decisions on the seriousness of the situation and try to be respectful of the wishes of others as much as possible. You’re part of a family, not part of a SWAT team or a military unit.
Remember – you’re dealing with the people you love here. Temper your responses accordingly and try to understand where they’re coming from.
Don’t fight if it isn’t worthwhile.
Although it isn’t always the easiest course of action, it’s often better to walk away from an argument than to keep it going. You can’t force your spouse to admit you were right and he or she was wrong if they’re not ready to accept that yet. “Pulling rank” on family members is more likely to cause trouble than cooperation. Personal satisfaction is not a worthwhile reason to get into a fight. Do your part to keep things peaceful.
On the other hand, some things actually are worth the fight. In issues of OPSEC, your family comes first and you cannot have family members out running their mouths or giving away your supplies without a conversation about it first. The same is true for matters of security. Basically, if it’s a matter of life and death, it’s worth having an argument. Otherwise, it’s not.
You may have to keep secrets.
Regarding OPSEC, you may have to become more comfortable with keeping secrets from the members of your group. If your spouse thinks you’ve spent enough but you’re certain you need more of a certain item, sometimes it might be better to ask forgiveness than to ask permission. I’m not saying to outright lie and every situation is different. This is something that could potentially cause real problems in a relationship, so you need to think it through before making your decision to do that.
On the other hand, if you have teens who want to be generous and share your supplies with everybody, it might be better if they don’t know exactly how many supplies you have. They don’t necessarily need access to the pantry or storage area. You can disguise a lot of foods by putting them inside plain cardboard boxes and setting up a little code so you’ll know where to find what you need.
Remember, people can’t tell others things they don’t know.
Sometimes you have to let people learn the hard way.
If you have a family member who simply won’t take no for an answer, they may need to learn a lesson the hard way. Obviously, this should not be a lesson that affects other members of the group.
As a parent, I’ve always been a fan of cause-and-effect discipline. If you don’t study for your test, you fail and that is the punishment. If you don’t get up and get to school on time, you’re tardy and the school will give you detention. If you don’t finish your science project, you won’t get to take the field trip with the rest of the class to attend the science fair.
This works in preparedness scenarios too.
Say for example you’ve doled out the snack food to make it last for as many weeks as possible but you have one person who simply won’t stop helping himself, divide the snack food into quantities, and put everyone’s name on their containers. Obviously, it’s not going to take long before the snack-eater is going to run out of their snacks. It’s imperative that the other members of the family don’t share if you want the person to learn their lesson.
This can apply with all sorts of different things – if the person isn’t pulling his or her weight, he or she should not reap the benefits of everyone else’s work.
You may want to make some changes in the future.
While I’d suggest not making any major decisions when you’re ticked off or under stress, the things you’re experiencing right now may cause you to reconsider your plans for future events. Obviously you can’t kick your immediate family members to the curb with a bag of beans and rice, but folks who are a bit more distant? Cousins, friends from work, that sibling you still fight with constantly 35 years later? Sheltering together may not be your wisest or most peaceful choice.
Use the things you’re learning now to make future events run more smoothly. There may be some changes you can make to help things go a little more peacefully the next time around. This could also mean setting expectations more clearly ahead of time or even deciding that you’re not meant to be an apocalypse team.
Have you run into any complications with your group?
Tomorrow, we’ll talk about dealing with people outside of your inner circle.
What about you – did the response of anyone within your group come as a surprise to you? Share your thoughts in the comments.
Daisy Luther writes about current events, preparedness, frugality, voluntaryism, and the pursuit of liberty on her website, The Organic Prepper. She is widely republished across alternative media and she curates all the most important news links on her aggregate site, PreppersDailyNews.com. Daisy is the best-selling author of 4 books and runs a small digital publishing company. You can find her on Facebook, Pinterest, and Twitter.


thedcclothesline--2020-04-25--MATH BOMBSHELL: Case Fatality Rate (CFR) is not the same as Infection Fatality Rate (IFR)… The coron

MATH BOMBSHELL: Case Fatality Rate (CFR) is not the same as Infection Fatality Rate (IFR)… The coronavirus CFR in the USA is likely above 10%

( Natural News ) In an effort to try to claim the coronavirus is no more dangerous than the regular flu — even though covid-19 has already killed more Americans in the last 17 days than what the regular flu killed in an entire year — pandemic denialists are claiming the case fatality rate for the coronavirus is very similar to that of the flu .
They achieve this false result by comparing the CDC ’ s numbers for flu fatalities to the estimates of the coronavirus case fatality rate based on projecting the results of questionable antibody tests to @ @ @ @ @ @ @ .
using the “ Stanford study ” which has already been completely ripped to shreds by dozens of scientists . )
For example , they say the regular flu infected 35,520,883 Americans last year and killed 34,157 .
This is from the CDC ’ s web page for the 2018-2019 flu season .
This comes to a 0.096 % fatality rate , which is usually rounded to 0.1 % .
We ’ ve used this number , too , pointing out the regular flu kills about 1 in 1,000 people ( which is @ @ @ @ @ @ @ rate ) .
But even we haven ’ t been specific enough in using this number , since it ’ s actually killing 1 in 1,000 people who are symptomatic .
It kills far fewer when you consider the entire infection pool for the seasonal flu , which is about four times larger than the number who are symptomatic ( see below ) .
This number — 0.1 % — is then often compared to the calculated “ case fatality rate ” of coronavirus , which people are calculating by taking the total @ @ @ @ @ @ @ and then using the total number of projected infections as the denominator .
They are getting the total number of projected infections from the already-debunked “ Stanford study , ” which produced conclusions that were almost entirely a product of false positives due to inaccurate antibody tests made in China .
But if you believe the Stanford study and ignore its horrific , fraudulent elements ( such as the fact that study subjects were self-selected , so the entire sample wasn ’ t even randomized ) , you might believe that 13.9 % @ @ @ @ @ @ @ already been infected .
take our poll - story continues below Then you might take the total deaths in New York — which is right now 21,283 — and divide that by the projected 13.9 % of the New York population ( 20.1 million ) , which comes to nearly 2.8 million people .
Therefore , you might argue ( and some people do ) , that the coronavirus death rate in New York is really 21,283 / 2.8 million , which comes to 0.76 % .
So from that math , you @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , the coronavirus death rate is only about 8 times worse than the regular flu , ” since 0.76 % is about 8 times higher than 0.96 % .
This is how the argument has been stated by those who are trying to claim the coronavirus isn ’ t really any big deal , even as the deaths have now climbed over 50,000 in the USA .
But there ’ s a massive , obvious problem with all this .
The oft-cited 0.1 % “ death rate ” for the regular flu is @ @ @ @ @ @ @ so it ’ s a dishonest comparison with coronavirus “ infections ” The regular flu kills about 1 in 1,000 people only when you count cases as being those who are “ symptomatic.
” In other words , the regular flu death rate of about 0.1 % is the “ Case Fatality Rate ” ( CFR ) , not the “ Infection Fatality Rate ” ( IFR ) .
To calculate the Infection Fatality Rate ( IFR ) of the regular flu , you need to know the total number of people infected @ @ @ @ @ @ @ of people who died from the regular flu .
See , when you look at the CDC ’ s flu burden web page , and you see the 35 million number for the 2018-2019 flu season , that ’ s “ Symptomatic Illnesses.
” In other words , it ’ s only the people who showed symptoms .
It does not count the asymptomatic carriers of the regular flu .
If you count the asymptomatic carriers of the regular flu , that number is obviously much larger .
If someone ran around the @ @ @ @ @ @ @ regular flu , they would find that a huge percentage of the population has those antibodies .
In fact , according to a study published in The Lancet Respiratory Medicine , three-quarters of regular flu infections are asymptomatic .
From ClinicalAdvisor.com : In a population-based comparison of serologic and weekly symptom monitoring data , only 23 % of people not vaccinated against influenza who had serologic evidence of infection also reported respiratory or flu-like symptoms , Andrew C. Hayward , MD , from University College London , and colleagues reported .
So for @ @ @ @ @ @ @ flu , only 23 show symptoms and are counted as being “ sick.
” So the 0.1 % Case Fatality Rate ( CFR ) for the regular flu is only considering those who showed symptoms and got sick , not all the people who were actually infected .
Because the number of people who were infected is far larger than the number of people who were symptomatic , the Infection Fatality Rate ( IFR ) result is a far lower percentage than the CFR percentage , given that triple the number of the @ @ @ @ @ @ @ asymptomatic carriers who are infected and will have antibodies .
Thus , if the regular flu has 35 million symptomatic cases , there are really 140 million total infected people , with about 105 million of those showing no symptoms and not being considered sick .
CFR : Case Fatality Rate of the regular flu = 35,000 / 35 million or about 0.1 % .
( About 1 in 1,000 symptomatic people die . )
IFR : Infected Fatality Rate of the regular flu = 35,000 / 140 million .
0.025 % .
@ @ @ @ @ @ @ die . )
People are incorrectly comparing the coronavirus IFR to the regular flu CFR When people talk about coronavirus deaths , however , they are talking about the IFR , or the Infection Fatality Rate .
They are calculating the total number who died and dividing by the total number who they say have been infected , even if those people show no symptoms .
So using the New York numbers from above , which are projections from the ( bad ) Stanford study , the IFR for the coronavirus comes to @ @ @ @ @ @ @ higher than the IFR of the regular flu , which is 0.025 % .
In other words , even if you believe the antibody tests for the coronavirus that were falsified in the Stanford study , it still means the coronavirus is 18 times more deadly than the flu , when comparing IFR to IFR .
The mistake people are making is comparing the CFR of the regular flu to the IFR of the coronavirus .
That doesn ’ t compute .
It ’ s not apples to apples .
In fact , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ of the flu as the “ death rate ” or the “ fatality rate.
” That ’ s why we all need to tighten up our terminology and our math here .
From now on , we will be using CFR and IFR accordingly , in order to offer more clarity about which numbers are being considered .
Right now , most people are conflating CFR with IFR , failing to recognize the difference .
This is happening across both the mainstream media and the independent media , and it shows why everyone @ @ @ @ @ @ @ mathematically correct as we work to gain an accurate understanding of the real risks associated with the coronavirus .
( Which isn ’ t “ just the flu.
” ) Calculating the CFR of the coronavirus To really compare apples to apples , then , we need to calculate the CFR of the coronavirus .
Remember , the CFR means “ Case Fatality Rate ” and it answers the question , “ What percentage of people who have symptoms end up dying ?
” That means we need to know how many people @ @ @ @ @ @ @ well as the number who have died .
But how many people are actually symptomatic with the coronavirus in the USA ?
We can ’ t just use the “ confirmed infections ” number of roughly 925,000 , since that number includes people who tested positive ( usually via PCR ) but don ’ t necessarily have symptoms .
Lots of people who test positive are asymptomatic , in other words .
In fact , most are .
It ’ s already widely known that around 80 % of the people who get @ @ @ @ @ @ @ generous to the naysayers for demonstration purposes , let ’ s use the 925,000 number as “ symptomatic ” cases — even though we know the real number of symptomatic cases is lower .
Out of the roughly 925,000 cases that we are temporarily considering to be “ symptomatic , ” under 10 % have recovered ( about 95,000 ) and 52,000 have died ( worldometers.info ) .
That means the Case Fatality Rate in the USA for the coronavirus is at least 5.6 % .
And that ’ s 56 times higher @ @ @ @ @ @ @ .
In reality , the CFR is surely higher than 5.6 % since the 925,000 denominator is too high for “ symptomatic ” cases .
We might reasonably say the number of symptomatic people is half that , or about 463,000 .
If that ’ s true , the CFR climbs above 10 % for the coronavirus .
There ’ s little doubt , in fact , that among symptomatic coronavirus cases , the death rate is at least 10 % .
That makes it 100 times more deadly than the flu , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ the case fatality rates reported in Italy , which is known to have been the source of a highly deadly strain that now dominates the infections , hospitalizations and deaths in New York .
Once again , this reveals how the coronavirus is far more deadly than the regular flu .
And that ’ s probably why the “ resolved cases ” in the USA currently shows a fatality rate of 32 % .
Comparing apples to apple : A summary of CFR vs. IFR for both the regular flu and the coronavirus @ @ @ @ @ @ @ regular flu = 35,000 / 35 million or about 0.1 % .
( About 1 in 1,000 people die . )
IFR : Infection Fatality Rate of the regular flu = 35,000 / 140 million .
0.025 % .
( About 1 in 4,000 people die . )
CFR : Case Fatality Rate of the coronavirus = 52,000 / 925,000 or at least 5.6 % , and we know the 925,000 is too high , so the real result is actually higher and most likely over 10 % , given that most of @ @ @ @ @ @ @ : Infection Fatality Rate of the coronavirus = 52,000 / ?
( you can plug in your best numbers here of estimated projections of the number who you think are actually infected ) .
If you think the actual number is , say , 10 million , then the IFR would be 0.5 % .
Since we don ’ t have a reliable number on the actual number of infections , this denominator is more difficult to nail down .
So comparing apples to apples , with scientific integrity : CFR of regular @ @ @ @ @ @ @ is 5.6 % IFR of regular flu is 0.025 % IFR of coronavirus might be 0.5 % ( or choose the number of infected you think works best in the formula above ) The naysayers are comparing the IFR of the coronavirus to the CFR of the regular flu What the denialists are doing to deceive people is that they compare the IFR of the coronavirus to the CFR of the regular flu .
That makes the coronavirus look a lot less dangerous .
But it ’ s the wrong comparison .
Check @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , pundits and websites claiming the coronavirus is “ no worse than the flu.
” They ’ re using the wrong numbers .
They ’ re all using the 0.1 % “ death rate ” of the regular flu , but comparing it to the infection numbers of the coronavirus .
Even worse , when you point out they ’ re using the wrong numbers , they refuse to change them .
This has been on ongoing phenomenon through all this : Nobody across the independent or mainstream media seems to have any @ @ @ @ @ @ @ accurate math and science on this .
Mostly , they ’ re just pushing political agendas and latching on to any bad science they can find that seems to “ prove ” their point .
One of the best people who brings clarity to this whole situation — and whose podcast led to this article — is Christ Martenson from PeakProsperity.com .
Here ’ s his video that explains some of this , although I ’ ve expanded on it considerably , bringing in a lot of new numbers .
However , the @ @ @ @ @ @ @ his readers for bringing this to light : Stay informed and stay alive .
Read Pandemic.news for accurate analysis , solid numbers and truly independent reporting .

(Natural News) In an effort to try to claim the coronavirus is no more dangerous than the regular flu — even though covid-19 has already killed more Americans in the last 17 days than what the regular flu killed in an entire year — pandemic denialists are claiming the case fatality rate for the coronavirus is very similar to that of the flu.
They achieve this false result by comparing the CDC’s numbers for flu fatalities to the estimates of the coronavirus case fatality rate based on projecting the results of questionable antibody tests to the population at large. (i.e. using the “Stanford study” which has already been completely ripped to shreds by dozens of scientists.)
For example, they say the regular flu infected 35,520,883 Americans last year and killed 34,157. This is from the CDC’s web page for the 2018-2019 flu season. This comes to a 0.096% fatality rate, which is usually rounded to 0.1%. We’ve used this number, too, pointing out the regular flu kills about 1 in 1,000 people (which is the same as a 0.1% death rate). But even we haven’t been specific enough in using this number, since it’s actually killing 1 in 1,000 people who are symptomatic. It kills far fewer when you consider the entire infection pool for the seasonal flu, which is about four times larger than the number who are symptomatic (see below).
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This number — 0.1% — is then often compared to the calculated “case fatality rate” of coronavirus, which people are calculating by taking the total number of deaths as the numerator, and then using the total number of projected infections as the denominator. They are getting the total number of projected infections from the already-debunked “Stanford study,” which produced conclusions that were almost entirely a product of false positives due to inaccurate antibody tests made in China. But if you believe the Stanford study and ignore its horrific, fraudulent elements (such as the fact that study subjects were self-selected, so the entire sample wasn’t even randomized), you might believe that 13.9% of the population of New York has already been infected.
Then you might take the total deaths in New York — which is right now 21,283 — and divide that by the projected 13.9% of the New York population (20.1 million), which comes to nearly 2.8 million people. Therefore, you might argue (and some people do), that the coronavirus death rate in New York is really 21,283 / 2.8 million, which comes to 0.76%.
So from that math, you might say something like, “Well, the coronavirus death rate is only about 8 times worse than the regular flu,” since 0.76% is about 8 times higher than 0.96%.
This is how the argument has been stated by those who are trying to claim the coronavirus isn’t really any big deal, even as the deaths have now climbed over 50,000 in the USA.
But there’s a massive, obvious problem with all this.
The oft-cited 0.1% “death rate” for the regular flu is only counting cases that are symptomatic, so it’s a dishonest comparison with coronavirus “infections”
The regular flu kills about 1 in 1,000 people only when you count cases as being those who are “symptomatic.” In other words, the regular flu death rate of about 0.1% is the “Case Fatality Rate” (CFR), not the “Infection Fatality Rate” (IFR).
To calculate the Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) of the regular flu, you need to know the total number of people infected and divide that into the total number of people who died from the regular flu.
See, when you look at the CDC’s flu burden web page, and you see the 35 million number for the 2018-2019 flu season, that’s “Symptomatic Illnesses.” In other words, it’s only the people who showed symptoms. It does not count the asymptomatic carriers of the regular flu.
If you count the asymptomatic carriers of the regular flu, that number is obviously much larger. If someone ran around the country testing everybody for antibodies of the regular flu, they would find that a huge percentage of the population has those antibodies. In fact, according to a study published in The Lancet Respiratory Medicine, three-quarters of regular flu infections are asymptomatic. From ClinicalAdvisor.com:
In a population-based comparison of serologic and weekly symptom monitoring data, only 23% of people not vaccinated against influenza who had serologic evidence of infection also reported respiratory or flu-like symptoms, Andrew C. Hayward, MD, from University College London, and colleagues reported.
So for every 100 people who have the regular flu, only 23 show symptoms and are counted as being “sick.” So the 0.1% Case Fatality Rate (CFR) for the regular flu is only considering those who showed symptoms and got sick, not all the people who were actually infected.
Because the number of people who were infected is far larger than the number of people who were symptomatic, the Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) result is a far lower percentage than the CFR percentage, given that triple the number of the “symptomatic” cases actually exist as asymptomatic carriers who are infected and will have antibodies.
Thus, if the regular flu has 35 million symptomatic cases, there are really 140 million total infected people, with about 105 million of those showing no symptoms and not being considered sick.
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Therefore, using rounded numbers:
CFR: Case Fatality Rate of the regular flu = 35,000 / 35 million or about 0.1%. (About 1 in 1,000 symptomatic people die.)
IFR: Infected Fatality Rate of the regular flu = 35,000 / 140 million. 0.025%. (About 1 in 4,000 infected people die.)
People are incorrectly comparing the coronavirus IFR to the regular flu CFR
When people talk about coronavirus deaths, however, they are talking about the IFR, or the Infection Fatality Rate. They are calculating the total number who died and dividing by the total number who they say have been infected, even if those people show no symptoms.
So using the New York numbers from above, which are projections from the (bad) Stanford study, the IFR for the coronavirus comes to 0.76%.
That is 18 times higher than the IFR of the regular flu, which is 0.025%.
In other words, even if you believe the antibody tests for the coronavirus that were falsified in the Stanford study, it still means the coronavirus is 18 times more deadly than the flu, when comparing IFR to IFR.
The mistake people are making is comparing the CFR of the regular flu to the IFR of the coronavirus. That doesn’t compute. It’s not apples to apples.
In fact, even we have referred to the CFR of the flu as the “death rate” or the “fatality rate.” That’s why we all need to tighten up our terminology and our math here. From now on, we will be using CFR and IFR accordingly, in order to offer more clarity about which numbers are being considered.
Right now, most people are conflating CFR with IFR, failing to recognize the difference. This is happening across both the mainstream media and the independent media, and it shows why everyone needs to be more specific and more mathematically correct as we work to gain an accurate understanding of the real risks associated with the coronavirus. (Which isn’t “just the flu.”)
Calculating the CFR of the coronavirus
To really compare apples to apples, then, we need to calculate the CFR of the coronavirus. Remember, the CFR means “Case Fatality Rate” and it answers the question, “What percentage of people who have symptoms end up dying?”
That means we need to know how many people are symptomatic from coronavirus infections, as well as the number who have died. But how many people are actually symptomatic with the coronavirus in the USA?
We can’t just use the “confirmed infections” number of roughly 925,000, since that number includes people who tested positive (usually via PCR) but don’t necessarily have symptoms. Lots of people who test positive are asymptomatic, in other words. In fact, most are. It’s already widely known that around 80% of the people who get infected are asymptomatic.
But to be generous to the naysayers for demonstration purposes, let’s use the 925,000 number as “symptomatic” cases — even though we know the real number of symptomatic cases is lower.
Out of the roughly 925,000 cases that we are temporarily considering to be “symptomatic,” under 10% have recovered (about 95,000) and 52,000 have died (worldometers.info).
That means the Case Fatality Rate in the USA for the coronavirus is at least 5.6%. And that’s 56 times higher than the CFR for the regular flu.
In reality, the CFR is surely higher than 5.6% since the 925,000 denominator is too high for “symptomatic” cases. We might reasonably say the number of symptomatic people is half that, or about 463,000. If that’s true, the CFR climbs above 10% for the coronavirus.
There’s little doubt, in fact, that among symptomatic coronavirus cases, the death rate is at least 10%. That makes it 100 times more deadly than the flu, and it’s in line with the case fatality rates reported in Italy, which is known to have been the source of a highly deadly strain that now dominates the infections, hospitalizations and deaths in New York.
Once again, this reveals how the coronavirus is far more deadly than the regular flu. And that’s probably why the “resolved cases” in the USA currently shows a fatality rate of 32%.
Comparing apples to apple: A summary of CFR vs. IFR for both the regular flu and the coronavirus
To summarize:
CFR: Case Fatality Rate of the regular flu = 35,000 / 35 million or about 0.1%. (About 1 in 1,000 people die.)
IFR: Infection Fatality Rate of the regular flu = 35,000 / 140 million. 0.025%. (About 1 in 4,000 people die.)
CFR: Case Fatality Rate of the coronavirus = 52,000 / 925,000 or at least 5.6%, and we know the 925,000 is too high, so the real result is actually higher and most likely over 10%, given that most of the 925,000 are actually asymptomatic.
IFR: Infection Fatality Rate of the coronavirus = 52,000 / ? (you can plug in your best numbers here of estimated projections of the number who you think are actually infected). If you think the actual number is, say, 10 million, then the IFR would be 0.5%. Since we don’t have a reliable number on the actual number of infections, this denominator is more difficult to nail down.
So comparing apples to apples, with scientific integrity:
CFR of regular flu is 0.1%
CFR of coronavirus is 5.6%
IFR of regular flu is 0.025%
IFR of coronavirus might be 0.5% (or choose the number of infected you think works best in the formula above)
The naysayers are comparing the IFR of the coronavirus to the CFR of the regular flu
What the denialists are doing to deceive people is that they compare the IFR of the coronavirus to the CFR of the regular flu. That makes the coronavirus look a lot less dangerous. But it’s the wrong comparison.
Check around. Look at all the publishers, pundits and websites claiming the coronavirus is “no worse than the flu.” They’re using the wrong numbers. They’re all using the 0.1% “death rate” of the regular flu, but comparing it to the infection numbers of the coronavirus.
Even worse, when you point out they’re using the wrong numbers, they refuse to change them. This has been on ongoing phenomenon through all this: Nobody across the independent or mainstream media seems to have any desire to correct bad numbers or produce accurate math and science on this. Mostly, they’re just pushing political agendas and latching on to any bad science they can find that seems to “prove” their point.
One of the best people who brings clarity to this whole situation — and whose podcast led to this article — is Christ Martenson from PeakProsperity.com. Here’s his video that explains some of this, although I’ve expanded on it considerably, bringing in a lot of new numbers. However, the full hat tip goes to Chris and his readers for bringing this to light:
Stay informed and stay alive. Read Pandemic.news for accurate analysis, solid numbers and truly independent reporting.


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It is should be of interest to every American concerning the conspiracies that are taking place by our said representatives and agencies today .
These are working hand in glove with the mainstream media in undermining our God-given rights and have been allowed to do so now for decades .
Of course , we all remember the courageous people that told Americans 50 and 60 years ago the facts about the conspiracies ; and yet , the mainstream media singled them out as theorists ?
take our poll - story continues below What is happening in America today , not @ @ @ @ @ @ @ media ’ s “ useful idiots , ” can deny the conspiracies taking place by throwing them out as just another theory .
What few realize is that the mainstream media has been uncovered over and over again attempting to cover for those who are responsible for the acts of treason and conspiracy .
Yes , the mainstream media is guilty of covering for conspirators by labeling anyone and everyone telling the truth as theorists .
You will find in 2 Kings conspiracies were always within because that way they were more easily @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , 15:30 , 17:4 ) .
The best way to distract and divert the people from the guilty party was to throw contrived theories out to the masses that had no credibility only to further cause confusion and attempt to fatigue them into giving up their search for truth and justice ( Isaiah 59:14 ) .
We are now beyond speculation concerning conspiracies within this said government and its agencies , ie .
mainstream media .
If you are desiring to understand precisely what is taking place in this country today before our @ @ @ @ @ @ @ there , in less than 12 minutes combined , these two videos do just that .
Article posted with permission from Sons of Liberty Media .
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“And the LORD said unto me, A conspiracy is found among the men of Judah, and among the inhabitants of Jerusalem.” –Jeremiah 11:9
It is should be of interest to every American concerning the conspiracies that are taking place by our said representatives and agencies today.
These are working hand in glove with the mainstream media in undermining our God-given rights and have been allowed to do so now for decades.
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What is happening in America today, not a person, not even the mainstream media’s “useful idiots,” can deny the conspiracies taking place by throwing them out as just another theory.
What few realize is that the mainstream media has been uncovered over and over again attempting to cover for those who are responsible for the acts of treason and conspiracy.
Yes, the mainstream media is guilty of covering for conspirators by labeling anyone and everyone telling the truth as theorists.
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You will find in 2 Kings conspiracies were always within because that way they were more easily controlled (2 Kings 14:19, 15:15, 15:30, 17:4).
The best way to distract and divert the people from the guilty party was to throw contrived theories out to the masses that had no credibility only to further cause confusion and attempt to fatigue them into giving up their search for truth and justice (Isaiah 59:14).
We are now beyond speculation concerning conspiracies within this said government and its agencies, ie. mainstream media.
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If you are desiring to understand precisely what is taking place in this country today before our very eyes with the facts laid out there, in less than 12 minutes combined, these two videos do just that.
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thedcclothesline--2020-04-25--Trey Gowdy Exposes Deep State FBI In Bombshell Interview

Posted by DINO PORRAZZO at Right Wing Tribune By now , most reasonable Americans not only believe that the Obama administration spied on a rival presidential campaign during the 2016 cycle , they know that there were more than just a few people inside President Obama ’ s Justice Department , FBI , and U.S. Intelligence Community who were so corrupted by his politics they worked with the former president to subvert our democratic processes .
Former U.S. Rep. Trey Gowdy ( R-S.C. ) worked diligently to expose this corruption during his tenure in office , but it ’ s @ @ @ @ @ @ @ reveal since leaving Congress that continues to add to the body of evidence that the Obama regime was not only the most corrupt in American history but that people who allied with him on “ Spygate ” still need to be held legally liable for their treachery .
take our poll - story continues below On Sunday during an appearance on Fox Business Network ‘ s “ Sunday Morning Futures ” with Maria Bartiromo , Gowdy revealed another piece of the puzzle that proves yet again why POTUS Donald Trump ’ s ongoing @ @ @ @ @ @ @ ’ deserves another four-year — because he ’ ll need it .
Gowdy told Bartiromo that corrupt FBI officials used two standards when providing intelligence and law enforcement briefs to then-GOP nominee Trump and then-Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton , the latter of whom was exonerated by the same corrupt bureau despite multiple obvious infractions of the Espionage Act .
The two were discussing Attorney General William Barr ’ s ongoing investigation into the origins of the “ Russiagate/Spygate ” probe ; apparently , the AG is shifting his attention into finding out how @ @ @ @ @ @ @ was intervening in the 2016 election to help Trump .
Asked if Barr was on the right track , Gowdy , a former federal prosecutor , noted that is “ is entirely appropriate ” for him to determine that in order to answer the larger question about the origins of the probe .
“ I think some people will tell you Russia wanted her [ Clinton ] to lose , and then , in a binary choice , by default , that means he must win , ” Gowdy said .
“ The @ @ @ @ @ @ @ people look at their work product , ” he continued , because they don ’ t deal with evidence or criminal proceedings , they make “ assessments.
” However , Gowdy noted further , the intelligence community has been famously wrong in the past , which means they , like other government entities , “ are not above oversight and review ” by Congress or other government agencies .
“ If Barr wants to look at the evidentiary foundations of this investigation , he should , ” the former GOP lawmaker said .
@ @ @ @ @ @ @ Director Michael Morrell has criticized U.S. Attorney John Durham ’ s probes into the intelligence machinations of Spygate , claiming such probes are “ inappropriate.
” But Gowdy countered that the intelligence community appeared to be providing alleged criminal information to the FBI and Justice Department during the 2016 election , which means Morrell and other deep state officials can ’ t now complain when the current DoJ is looking into the origins of that intelligence .
“ Meanwhile , some Democrats are calling for Donald Trump to be in prison ” based @ @ @ @ @ @ @ information regarding Spygate , Gowdy said .
“ So , you can ’ t have it both ways.
” “ Have you ever seen the FBI ’ s internal analysis of whether [ Trump dossier author ] Christopher Steele was reliable , ” he asked .
“ Have you seen the paperwork where he was defrocked as a source because he couldn ’ t follow FBI rules and regulations ?
“ Have you seen the exculpatory evidence as it relates to George Papadopoulos ?
” Gowdy continued , a reference to one of @ @ @ @ @ @ @ policy analysts who the FBI once claimed was the source of the Spygate probe .
“ Here ’ s one , Maria , have you seen the disparate defensive briefings they gave candidate Clinton versus Candidate Trump ?
And has anyone asked the FBI to explain why they took entirely different tracks to those two debriefings ?
There ’ s a lot left to be seen by you and your viewers.
” It is important to note that the FBI swore on Oct. 21 , 2016 , to the FISA judges that Steele @ @ @ @ @ @ @ and used in criminal proceedings ” and the FBI has determined him to be “ reliable ” and was “ unaware of any derogatory information pertaining ” to their informant , who simultaneously worked for Fusion GPS , the firm paid by the Democratic National Committee ( DNC ) and the Clinton campaign to find Russian dirt on Trump .
Just-unearthed memos also show that a ranking government official who met with Steele in October 2016 made the determination that at least some of the ‘ dirt ’ on Candidate Trump that Steele @ @ @ @ @ @ @ and for the Clinton campaign wasn ’ t close to accurate , but was nevertheless most likely leaked ( by him ) to the media .
Those concerns were contained in a typed memo and handwritten notes taken by Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Kathleen Kavalec on Oct. 11 , 2016 .
Recall , as we reported , that Steele shopped his bogus dossier to John Kerry ’ s State Department in the weeks before the election , with the objective of having it leaked .
What ’ s more , we know @ @ @ @ @ @ @ D-Md . )
was working with Obama ’ s State Department on documents provided by bogus “ dossier ” author Christopher Steele .
As for Kavalec , she wrote that Steele told her the Russians had constructed a “ technical/human operation run out of Moscow targeting the election ” that recruited emigres in the United States to “ do hacking and recruiting.
” She quoted Steele as saying , “ Payments to those recruited are made out of the Russian Consulate in Miami , ” according to a copy of her summary memo @ @ @ @ @ @ @ conservative watchdog organization Citizens United .
Kavalec bluntly debunked that assertion in a bracketed comment : “ It is important to note that there is no Russian consulate in Miami.
” Two days later and well before the FBI obtained the first FISA warrant to spy on Carter Page of Team Trump , Kavalec forwarded her assessment to other government officials .
Not only did it not affect the outcome , as Spygate continued apace , but as Gowdy noted , the FBI and intelligence community were providing the two campaigns with completely @ @ @ @ @ @ @ the real deal and they were feeding the Trump campaign a lot of BS .
“ This once again shows officials at the FBI and ( Department of Justice ) DOJ were well aware the dossier was a lie — from very early on in the process all the way to when they made the conscious decision to include it in a FISA application , ” Rep. Mark Meadows ( R-N.C. ) told The Hill ‘ s John Solomon .
“ The fact that Christopher Steele and his partisan research document were treated @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Community leaders amounts to malpractice.
” This article originally appeared at The National Sentinel and was republished with permission .
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By now, most reasonable Americans not only believe that the Obama administration spied on a rival presidential campaign during the 2016 cycle, they know that there were more than just a few people inside President Obama’s Justice Department, FBI, and U.S. Intelligence Community who were so corrupted by his politics they worked with the former president to subvert our democratic processes.
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Former U.S. Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) worked diligently to expose this corruption during his tenure in office, but it’s what he’s been able to reveal since leaving Congress that continues to add to the body of evidence that the Obama regime was not only the most corrupt in American history but that people who allied with him on “Spygate” still need to be held legally liable for their treachery.
On Sunday during an appearance on Fox Business Network‘s “Sunday Morning Futures” with Maria Bartiromo, Gowdy revealed another piece of the puzzle that proves yet again why POTUS Donald Trump’s ongoing effort to ‘drain the Washington swamp’ deserves another four-year — because he’ll need it.
Gowdy told Bartiromo that corrupt FBI officials used two standards when providing intelligence and law enforcement briefs to then-GOP nominee Trump and then-Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, the latter of whom was exonerated by the same corrupt bureau despite multiple obvious infractions of the Espionage Act.
The two were discussing Attorney General William Barr’s ongoing investigation into the origins of the “Russiagate/Spygate” probe; apparently, the AG is shifting his attention into finding out how the U.S. Intelligence Community determined that Moscow was intervening in the 2016 election to help Trump.
Asked if Barr was on the right track, Gowdy, a former federal prosecutor, noted that is “is entirely appropriate” for him to determine that in order to answer the larger question about the origins of the probe.
“I think some people will tell you Russia wanted her [Clinton] to lose, and then, in a binary choice, by default, that means he must win,” Gowdy said.
“The intelligence community’s always skittish when people look at their work product,” he continued, because they don’t deal with evidence or criminal proceedings, they make “assessments.”
However, Gowdy noted further, the intelligence community has been famously wrong in the past, which means they, like other government entities, “are not above oversight and review” by Congress or other government agencies.
“If Barr wants to look at the evidentiary foundations of this investigation, he should,” the former GOP lawmaker said.
Bartiromo noted that former Obama-era Deputy CIA Director Michael Morrell has criticized U.S. Attorney John Durham’s probes into the intelligence machinations of Spygate, claiming such probes are “inappropriate.”
But Gowdy countered that the intelligence community appeared to be providing alleged criminal information to the FBI and Justice Department during the 2016 election, which means Morrell and other deep state officials can’t now complain when the current DoJ is looking into the origins of that intelligence.
“Meanwhile, some Democrats are calling for Donald Trump to be in prison” based on the intelligence community’s alleged information regarding Spygate, Gowdy said. “So, you can’t have it both ways.”
Then Gowdy dropped some bombshells.
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“Have you ever seen the FBI’s internal analysis of whether [Trump dossier author] Christopher Steele was reliable,” he asked. “Have you seen the paperwork where he was defrocked as a source because he couldn’t follow FBI rules and regulations?
“Have you seen the exculpatory evidence as it relates to George Papadopoulos?” Gowdy continued, a reference to one of the Trump campaign’s low-ranking foreign policy analysts who the FBI once claimed was the source of the Spygate probe.
And:
“Here’s one, Maria, have you seen the disparate defensive briefings they gave candidate Clinton versus Candidate Trump? And has anyone asked the FBI to explain why they took entirely different tracks to those two debriefings? There’s a lot left to be seen by you and your viewers.”
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It is important to note that the FBI swore on Oct. 21, 2016, to the FISA judges that Steele’s “reporting has been corroborated and used in criminal proceedings” and the FBI has determined him to be “reliable” and was “unaware of any derogatory information pertaining” to their informant, who simultaneously worked for Fusion GPS, the firm paid by the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the Clinton campaign to find Russian dirt on Trump.
Just-unearthed memos also show that a ranking government official who met with Steele in October 2016 made the determination that at least some of the ‘dirt’ on Candidate Trump that Steele was digging up simultaneously for the FBI and for the Clinton campaign wasn’t close to accurate, but was nevertheless most likely leaked (by him) to the media.
Those concerns were contained in a typed memo and handwritten notes taken by Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Kathleen Kavalec on Oct. 11, 2016.
Recall, as we reported, that Steele shopped his bogus dossier to John Kerry’s State Department in the weeks before the election, with the objective of having it leaked. What’s more, we know that House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) was working with Obama’s State Department on documents provided by bogus “dossier” author Christopher Steele.
As for Kavalec, she wrote that Steele told her the Russians had constructed a “technical/human operation run out of Moscow targeting the election” that recruited emigres in the United States to “do hacking and recruiting.”
She quoted Steele as saying, “Payments to those recruited are made out of the Russian Consulate in Miami,” according to a copy of her summary memo obtained under open records litigation by the conservative watchdog organization Citizens United.
Kavalec bluntly debunked that assertion in a bracketed comment: “It is important to note that there is no Russian consulate in Miami.”
Two days later and well before the FBI obtained the first FISA warrant to spy on Carter Page of Team Trump, Kavalec forwarded her assessment to other government officials.
Not only did it not affect the outcome, as Spygate continued apace, but as Gowdy noted, the FBI and intelligence community were providing the two campaigns with completely different assessments — meaning Clinton was getting the real deal and they were feeding the Trump campaign a lot of BS.
“This once again shows officials at the FBI and (Department of Justice) DOJ were well aware the dossier was a lie — from very early on in the process all the way to when they made the conscious decision to include it in a FISA application,” Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) told The Hill‘s John Solomon.
“The fact that Christopher Steele and his partisan research document were treated in any way seriously by our Intelligence Community leaders amounts to malpractice.”
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This article originally appeared at The National Sentinel and was republished with permission.
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thedcclothesline--2020-04-25--Death Panel Ezekiel: “No Choice” But Mass Poverty And Death

A freeze-frame economy will ultimately kill thousands .
If several weeks of state-imposed house arrest and unemployment have maxed out your stress level , wait until you hear what the experts have in mind to “ mitigate ” a bad seasonal influenza .
Here is Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel , brother of Rahm , the former mayor Chicago and a Clintonite : Realistically , COVID-19 will be here for the next 18 months or more .
We will not be able to return to normalcy until we find a vaccine or effective medications , ” e said .
“ I know @ @ @ @ @ @ @ .
How are people supposed to find work if this goes on in some form for a year and a half ?
Is all that economic pain worth trying to stop COVID-19 ?
The truth is we have no choice .
take our poll - story continues below You may remember Mr. Emanuel .
He ’ s a “ bioethicist ” in favor of so-called death panels .
He advocated denying medical assistance to old folks who are not “ participating citizens , ” that is to say sickly retired elders no longer @ @ @ @ @ @ @ the state and its corporate owners .
It probably shouldn ’ t be surprising a guy who believes dementia and elderly cancer patients must be left to die advocates a year and a half of a freeze-frame economy that will ultimately kill thousands , far more than a seasonal coronavirus .
Meanwhile , New York Governor Andrew Cuomo believes those demonstrating in opposition to mandated confinement and enforced unemployment and eventual impoverishment and homelessness are crybabies .
This sort of contempt for the folks who pay Cuomo ’ s handsome salary is a @ @ @ @ @ @ @ .
It ’ s fair to say the gov doesn ’ t really care about New Yorkers who will end up destitute .
He is solely focused on what appears to be a nasty influenza and an endless iron-fisted lockdown , never mind the death toll from a nearly moribund economy will far outpace anything produced by COVID-19 ( or any other virus ) .
The political class and technocrats like Ezekiel Emanuel still have time to build fortresses between themselves and an outraged and violent hoi polloi .
Maybe that ’ s @ @ @ @ @ @ @ been mobilized .
In six months , will every American know who Gen. Terrence J. O ’ Shaughnessy is ?

A freeze-frame economy will ultimately kill thousands. If several weeks of state-imposed house arrest and unemployment have maxed out your stress level, wait until you hear what the experts have in mind to “mitigate” a bad seasonal influenza.
Here is Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, brother of Rahm, the former mayor Chicago and a Clintonite:
Realistically, COVID-19 will be here for the next 18 months or more. We will not be able to return to normalcy until we find a vaccine or effective medications,” e said. “I know that’s dreadful news to hear. How are people supposed to find work if this goes on in some form for a year and a half? Is all that economic pain worth trying to stop COVID-19? The truth is we have no choice.
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You may remember Mr. Emanuel. He’s a “bioethicist” in favor of so-called death panels. He advocated denying medical assistance to old folks who are not “participating citizens,” that is to say sickly retired elders no longer working and paying mandatory financial tribute to the state and its corporate owners.
It probably shouldn’t be surprising a guy who believes dementia and elderly cancer patients must be left to die advocates a year and a half of a freeze-frame economy that will ultimately kill thousands, far more than a seasonal coronavirus.
Meanwhile, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo believes those demonstrating in opposition to mandated confinement and enforced unemployment and eventual impoverishment and homelessness are crybabies.
A reporter asked Gov. Cuomo what he’d say to New Yorkers who want to go back to work because they’re running out of money, to which he replied, “economic hardship doesn’t equal death” “You want to go to work? Go take a job as an essential worker” he added https://t.co/BgwoOZsQRy pic.twitter.com/WxGQxtg49p — CBS News (@CBSNews) April 22, 2020
This sort of contempt for the folks who pay Cuomo’s handsome salary is a common trait shared by psychopathic control freaks. It’s fair to say the gov doesn’t really care about New Yorkers who will end up destitute. He is solely focused on what appears to be a nasty influenza and an endless iron-fisted lockdown, never mind the death toll from a nearly moribund economy will far outpace anything produced by COVID-19 (or any other virus).
The political class and technocrats like Ezekiel Emanuel still have time to build fortresses between themselves and an outraged and violent hoi polloi. Maybe that’s why the National Guard and Army have been mobilized. In six months, will every American know who Gen. Terrence J. O’Shaughnessy is?
Article posted with permission from Kurt Nimmo
h/t TWS


thedcclothesline--2020-04-25--Multiple San Francisco Women Charged with Robbery & Other Crimes After Threatening to Expose People

Multiple San Francisco Women Charged with Robbery & Other Crimes After Threatening to Expose People to Coronavirus

SAN FRANCISCO – The United States Attorney ’ s Office for the Northern District of California unsealed charges today in a criminal complaint charging Carmelita Barela and Rosetta Shabazz with committing robbery affecting interstate commerce in connection with a scheme to steal merchandise from a Walgreens while claiming to have COVID-19 , announced United States Attorney David L. Anderson and Federal Bureau of Investigation Special Agent in Charge John F. Bennett .
“ It is an unfortunate reality that there will be those in our community who try to take advantage of the current pandemic to prey on people ’ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ said U.S. Attorney Anderson .
“ While many in our community can remain safe by sheltering in place , store managers and clerks are putting themselves out into the world for our benefit .
They don ’ t deserve to be threatened and robbed .
Everyone suffers from a crime like this.
” “ In a time when our communities have come together to be responsible and stay safe , the FBI will simply not tolerate the criminal actions of the few individuals who use fear and intimidation to endanger others , ” @ @ @ @ @ @ @ “ We must protect the front-line service workers who are providing the public with the critical supplies we all need.
” take our poll - story continues below According to the complaint , on April 6 , 2020 , Barela , 36 , and Shabazz , 32 , both of San Francisco , entered a Walgreens near San Francisco ’ s Civic Center with empty bags and without wearing masks .
After the store manager offered assistance , Shabazz allegedly began to cough without covering her mouth .
The store manager asked Shabazz @ @ @ @ @ @ @ sick .
Instead , Shabazz walked over to Barela and both defendants began to cough audibly while taking merchandise off the shelves and placing it into their bags .
The manager told the defendants to leave the store , to which they responded by saying , “ We have COVID.
” The defendants continued to cough audibly and eventually left the store without paying for the merchandise they placed into their bags .
The defendants are charged with robbery affecting interstate commerce ( Hobbs Act Robbery ) , in violation of 18 U.S.C @ @ @ @ @ @ @ alleges that crimes have been committed , and the defendants are presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt .
If convicted , the defendants each face a maximum sentence of 20 years of prison and a $ 250,000 fine .
In addition , the court may order restitution and an additional term of supervised release .
However , any sentence following conviction would be imposed by the court after consideration of the U.S .
Sentencing Guidelines and the federal statute governing the imposition of a sentence , 18 U.S.C .
§ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ on April 23 , 2020 .
Shabazz made her initial appearance this morning before Magistrate Judge Kandis Westmore and was released to home confinement .
Her next appearance is scheduled for April 28 , 2020 , before Judge Westmore , for a bond hearing .
Barela ’ s next appearance is scheduled for April 27 , 2020 , before Magistrate Judge Thomas Hixson for an initial appearance .
Assistant United States Attorney Abraham Fine is prosecuting the case with assistance from Margoth Turcios .
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SAN FRANCISCO – The United States Attorney’s Office for the Northern District of California unsealed charges today in a criminal complaint charging Carmelita Barela and Rosetta Shabazz with committing robbery affecting interstate commerce in connection with a scheme to steal merchandise from a Walgreens while claiming to have COVID-19, announced United States Attorney David L. Anderson and Federal Bureau of Investigation Special Agent in Charge John F. Bennett.
“It is an unfortunate reality that there will be those in our community who try to take advantage of the current pandemic to prey on people’s fear of contracting COVID-19,” said U.S. Attorney Anderson. “While many in our community can remain safe by sheltering in place, store managers and clerks are putting themselves out into the world for our benefit. They don’t deserve to be threatened and robbed. Everyone suffers from a crime like this.”
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“In a time when our communities have come together to be responsible and stay safe, the FBI will simply not tolerate the criminal actions of the few individuals who use fear and intimidation to endanger others,” said Special Agent in Charge Bennett. “We must protect the front-line service workers who are providing the public with the critical supplies we all need.”
According to the complaint, on April 6, 2020, Barela, 36, and Shabazz, 32, both of San Francisco, entered a Walgreens near San Francisco’s Civic Center with empty bags and without wearing masks. After the store manager offered assistance, Shabazz allegedly began to cough without covering her mouth. The store manager asked Shabazz to leave the store if she was sick. Instead, Shabazz walked over to Barela and both defendants began to cough audibly while taking merchandise off the shelves and placing it into their bags. The manager told the defendants to leave the store, to which they responded by saying, “We have COVID.” The defendants continued to cough audibly and eventually left the store without paying for the merchandise they placed into their bags.
The defendants are charged with robbery affecting interstate commerce (Hobbs Act Robbery), in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1951. A complaint merely alleges that crimes have been committed, and the defendants are presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. If convicted, the defendants each face a maximum sentence of 20 years of prison and a $250,000 fine. In addition, the court may order restitution and an additional term of supervised release. However, any sentence following conviction would be imposed by the court after consideration of the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines and the federal statute governing the imposition of a sentence, 18 U.S.C. § 3553.
Barela and Shabazz were arrested on April 23, 2020. Shabazz made her initial appearance this morning before Magistrate Judge Kandis Westmore and was released to home confinement. Her next appearance is scheduled for April 28, 2020, before Judge Westmore, for a bond hearing. Barela’s next appearance is scheduled for April 27, 2020, before Magistrate Judge Thomas Hixson for an initial appearance.
Assistant United States Attorney Abraham Fine is prosecuting the case with assistance from Margoth Turcios. The prosecution is a result of an investigation by the FBI.
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