thelibertybeacon--2020-08-31--KEN’S CORNER: Hunters With White Palms In a Kodachrome Forest

Recently I posted pictures of a hunt on Face Book with very mixed reviews .
Seems okay to show a hunter in camouflage blending into speckled and dappled woods , but quite another to point up prey as they lay on the forest floor .
Looking at a downed deer with a bullet-hole sets some on edge , and gazing at me skinning it sends others into emotional turmoil .
There seems some very misplaced modern sensibilities going on in the minds of some men and women today , that can not fully grasp the gravity of our forgotten American @ @ @ @ @ @ @ ago .
It also indicates why there are certain American men and women who will never give up their guns .
It is not just the Constitution , but something ingrained into the very fabric of what we are as men .
It is considered a viable part of Liberty , and a God- given right that can not be denied .
So profound is this need , many men would die to keep it… No disrespect , but there were some who called hunting “ a barbaric practice , ” and others @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Bambi.
” Surely , they had to be joking .
Could it be that we have among us people who identify with a childhood cartoon personality , with human characteristics ?
Have we “ advanced ” to the point were animals are considered higher , or equal to men on the food chain ?
I ’ m sure some vegetarian pacifist celibates have come to that conclusion , and a frightful notion for a traditionalist .
Some of these folks , of the same cut and jib , are advocating that our American @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , and needs to change as attitudes change , and this seems most dangerous… Tradition comes from the school of hard knocks , hard won , and many times a survival technique .
Change for the sake of change ?
How did the Obama years fair ?
Remember , once lost , it is very difficult to get it back… Anthropomorphism is the word that describes the assumption that human emotions and intellect are in animals , and Hollywood has thoroughly tapped into that sentiment .
Though we should have empathy and respect @ @ @ @ @ @ @ with our own human characteristics .
What primarily separates us from them is our unique frontal lobe ’ s higher consciousness , something they emphatically do not possess .
Emotions and survival instinct should not be confused with intellect , and that brings us to another definition , finely embedded into our physic… personification .
This is the related attribution of human form and characteristics , using abstract concepts such as nations , emotions and natural forces like seasons and the weather , to give credence of our reality .
We should teach @ @ @ @ @ @ @ are watching cartoons , or playing violent video games that revel in killing , for the sake of killing… To be honest , this trait is found in each and every one of us at one time or another , as we try to define , and ascribe meaning to the world around us .
We have , however , been taught a lot of things we have come to question as adults , and some are seen to be little more than lies and fallacies .
Just recently my two oldest grandchildren @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , Santa , or tooth fairy .
After the initial shock , one even questioned the existence of God , and that is a normal response .
We have a great gift called the intellect , and that ability gives us a reasoning mind , consciousness .
And so , we need to take pause and question just what reality we have been taught as truth , before being so judgmental .
Before we take a stance for gun control ; before we change a tradition ; before we legislate away what just @ @ @ @ @ @ @ technique , we should take a long look and consider just what might be lost… From camera to rifle… and back again Animals are indeed complex .
The elephant , dog , whale , and dolphin for instance , and all endangered species… should not be hunted .
Some predators should also be in question too , and given quarter in the wild , like the bear , large cats , and most all monkeys , unless it is necessary in a well-managed game reserve , or , of course , if you @ @ @ @ @ @ @ glance seem insensitive , but we need to consider and understand our modern circumstances , in relation to our historical past .
I am relatively new at hunting .
Before my son-in-law introduced me to the sport about fifteen years ago… my hunting was done entirely with a Minolta camera .
For the majority of my woodland experiences , trophies were defined to photos of early evening and mornings of burnt orange and deep blue through the trees .
I used a Macro for mushrooms , a zoom lens for a bird , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ and a wide angle for family gatherings .
I found modern hunting just as specialized , just as complicated in its study and learning .
A consideration for depth of field in necessary for an artful photographic capture , and knowing and practicing with your gun and its many various accessories , insures a well orchestrated hunt .
At about the same instant I learned my rifle , I also held a Digital camera for the first time , and there is no turning back for either .
Now my Nikon and Browning @ @ @ @ @ @ @ relationship that gives me great fulfillment , and yet , for dissimilar reasons .
Something happened to me the first time I picked up a camera in the wild .
I was hiking with Navy buddies on a little island off the Philippine coast called Grande , back in 1969 .
On a West Pacific tour aboard the USS Kitty Hawk , some opted for a few days of R and R away from the smoke-filled Olongapoo bars of Subic Bay .
Sad to say , but very few chose the good clean @ @ @ @ @ @ @ wild jungles galore , and voted the third best scuba destination in the world , those days made grand memories for those with an adventure spirit .
My friend Gary carried a Pentex camera .
He let me handle it with a new macro lens , and I turned it upon a praying mantis sitting on a leaf .
It was amazing to see his entire head come into focus , and fill the frame .
“ Snap !
” And as I took my first Kodachrome slide , I was hooked , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ years .
Something similar happened when I shot my first buck .
I knew it was the one I had been waiting for , an elusive ten-point my son-in-law had photographed with a night camera the previous season .
Though it was a heart/lung shot , it thundered headlong into the piney Louisiana thicket , disappearing into the evening shadows .
I remember what went through my head before I took that shot to this very day .
I wanted it clean , not only for the Buck , but I knew that @ @ @ @ @ @ @ my next move , would be remembered by all .
I also remember the apprehension of having to wait the prescribed half hour before tracking it .
You learn a lot about yourself as a hunter , and some of what you have inside are rather embarrassing to admit .
You see , I just couldn ’ t wait .
I texted my son-in-law the news , and though he reminded me that going after the deer might make him run further , I could not stop myself from immediately going .
In @ @ @ @ @ @ @ site searching for signs , and with a sigh of relief saw a lot of blood .
The bullet had gone clean through , and I hoped by the amount that my aim was true .
I started taking pictures too… Deer have an adrenalin rush so powerful they can run a hundred yard dash with a damaged heart , and no oxygen .
I know this sounds untrue , but I have seen this many times .
Adrenalin overrides pain just as shock does .
A seasoned hunter might laugh at such @ @ @ @ @ @ @ picture , or a first kiss , it takes something rather powerful to impress an older guy like me .
I was told emphatically that wounded deer are dangerous , and have attacked and even killed an unwary hunter following a blood trail .
They can come quickly , virtually invisible in dense thicket , and use their hoofs as formidable weapons .
And with this in the back or my mind , and my rifle off-safety , I cautiously tracked the blood trail… In the quiet of evening , alone in my @ @ @ @ @ @ @ cool from fall , something deep and commanding took hold .
I can not truly describe it .
It was something that welled up , a well-being perhaps , something I see in Gunner , my bird dog , who is bread to point , to track , and retrieve… and without a doubt , men have that inside too .
I ’ m sure not all men , but hunter gatherers , who became farmers , is in my DNA , just like Gunner ’ s hunting ability .
Blood , from @ @ @ @ @ @ @ of grass I searched on hands and knees .
There , my heart leaped as I saw deep red splashes on the trunk of a tree ; it rekindled in me something ancient , seemingly primal , and surely long suppressed , innate .
It brought out a primeval mode of thought some men are breed to be , and at the very core of what it means to be a surviving human being .
There are some people who consciously attempt to suppress this , for a variety of well meaning reasons @ @ @ @ @ @ @ ancestors waited patiently for their hunters to return carrying a week ’ s supply of protein on their backs .
It was a good feeling to see that my shot was textbook , and as I stood in the dry autumn grass appraising him , my heart thudded in my chest .
I felt alive , and connected to this world in a way I had never felt before .
Surely , that feeling is no litmus test for masculinity ; it takes all kinds to make our society… but there is , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ test of what it means to be a man , and that is wrapped up in a concept called responsibility .
Many young men and women today have not been taught that… For hundreds of thousands of years , possibly a million , men and women have hunted for survival .
Groups of men left their families and sought game in cooperative packs , along with their partner , the dog .
When they returned home it was a celebration… not only for their safe return , but the sustenance that insured survival @ @ @ @ @ @ @ American Colonial hunters , who were my ancestors , formed their hunting ability from native Indians and learned respect for both prey and themselves , bordering on reverence .
Some even prayed over the downed animal , thanking both it and God for its life , and most hunters I know do this today .
The tools have changed , but what we have inside still burns true for the hunt .
It was forged , hardwired in our psyche by the realization that skills and expertise , our collective cooperation , our @ @ @ @ @ @ @ depended on us .
Hunting was borne of responsibility , the romantic in me thinks… where love is forged .
Those who can not grasp this concept , are modern societies ’ victims .
Those adventurous exploits , both success and failure , were told around the home-fire so long ago that a good part of that communication were simple hand gestures .
No matter what race we are today , the inside of our hands are a reflective white .
The palm of every human can be seen brightly in starlight , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ firelight .
Our hands were accents marks for the joyful and sometimes heartbreaking stories they told .
It was a tradition that endured for 99 percent of our existence on earth , and should not be so easily discarded .
The blackstrap is the most tender and tasty part of the deer , and every culture around the world gave the hunter that as thanks .
And yet , as we can witness today… that meat is given by the men to the women and children , a true display of Love .
@ @ @ @ @ @ @ to outlast his fragile life , with artful renderings of multicolored powdered minerals , and those same needs and expressions are at the heart of the modern hunter today .
This is why I take pictures .
Putting a mount above his fire-place records the best of his experiences .
It represents the efficiency in his choice of weapons , the patience and persistence it took to achieve his goal , the solidarity and patience of long hours , the company he kept , the dreams and memories he alone have made , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ obscure .
It indicates a degree of modern men , with a measure of our ancestors , and this revelation can not be denied .
The modern hunter sits in a painted aluminum tree-stand dressed in state of the art camouflage from head to foot , accented by an invisible orange safety vest over thermal underwear , washed and prepared not to smell .
Several chemical heat packs are in his pockets and boots… Night-vision binoculars… a high-powered lightweight composite rifle with full-metal-jacket ammunition… a directional , battery-powered LED flash-light… a telephone/computer on @ @ @ @ @ @ @ a realistic animal-call… a satellite GPS to find his way home… multi-varieties of pheromone sent-spray that doubles as a insect repellent… pin-point range finders for accurate distance… are standard , and reasonably priced .
He can record his experience with an HD 26.0 maga-pixel Sony HANDICAM 1080 , mounted next to his scope that can see as well as a hawk .
While in his blind , he can check stocks… text his friends in a nearby stand… research the name of any bird he sees… be warned in a change of weather… @ @ @ @ @ @ @ other mind-occupying functions the modern mind demands .
He can wear a hearing protector that amplifies the sounds of the woods 20 times , surpassing that of his dog , who he still watches for directions… still sitting at his feet .
And even when the knob is turned all the way up , he can shoot his rifle without harming his hearing .
His trophy-mount will be done by a professional , amazingly life-like , or a simple Euro-mount as requested by his wife .
His kill is not processed by tribal @ @ @ @ @ @ @ his freezer from steaks to smoked-sausage , hermetically sealed by a hunter ’ s slaughter-house to last years .
An obsidian-glass , or flint knife is no longer required to peal leather , as his clothes are mostly synthetic , instilled with odorless multi-colored dyes in computer generated patterns that camouflage for every season .
No longer is he required to freeze-dry strips of meat on racks of saplings for weeks for winter storage , and tanning using the animal ’ s brain is a method no longer feasible but for the most @ @ @ @ @ @ @ abundance now , with hardly a thought of its rarity and extreme health benefits , lacking just two generations ago… and fresh water can be kept cool in a double walled thermos .
Today he has infusion drinks , vitamin and salt enriched , tasty fruit and nut bars wrapped in a healthy synthetic plastic made from oil .
If he feels sick or weak , he can pull out an energy drink , and take an aspirin… It is said that primitive hunters were more at one with nature , and that @ @ @ @ @ @ @ This may very well be true , but the reality of a modern hunter is his virtual control of nature , something our ancestors could not effectively do .
In other words , modern hunters try not only to acclimate with nature , but to control it as well .
Our ancestors would be proud of our accomplishments , and quickly utilize every tool available .
That is the way of men .
On the wall next to my fire place is my ten-point Euro-mount , and I show the experience to my @ @ @ @ @ @ @ .
On my gas pit I am smoking a roast from my latest hunt , and will invite all of my hunting buddies to retell and embellish our stories , just as former hunters did so many years ago .
Even with our far-advanced verbal skills , hand gestures are still used to accent .
It is indeed ironic , but hunters do more than anyone , including Government mandate or agency to safeguard ecology .
It is in their best interest to save and restore wetlands , forests , and natural habitats @ @ @ @ @ @ @ savvy knowledge .
On private and public lands alike , hunters are in partnership with research ecologists and government agencies who use variable sciences to maintain a balanced nature and an uncontaminated wildlife habitat for the enjoyment of every kind of outdoors-man , from bird-watcher to mountain climber .
And yet , each year , for a wide variety of reasons , hunters grow less and less .
We are indeed an endangered species , as humanity forgets his heritage .
Author ’ s note : The vision of Whit Gibons , of @ @ @ @ @ @ @ note he wrote years ago about the needed involvement of hunters in maintaining our forests .
He wrote : “ Why is hunting good for the environment ?
” I found it a good source of information of that time , because times are rapidly changing , and recognized that he had an overt premonition of what is happening today .

KEN’S CORNER: Hunters With White Palms In a Kodachrome Forest
By TLB Contributing Author: Ken LaRive
Anthropomorphism
Recently I posted pictures of a hunt on Face Book with very mixed reviews. Seems okay to show a hunter in camouflage blending into speckled and dappled woods, but quite another to point up prey as they lay on the forest floor. Looking at a downed deer with a bullet-hole sets some on edge, and gazing at me skinning it sends others into emotional turmoil.
There seems some very misplaced modern sensibilities going on in the minds of some men and women today, that cannot fully grasp the gravity of our forgotten American heritage, so important just a generation ago. It also indicates why there are certain American men and women who will never give up their guns. It is not just the Constitution, but something ingrained into the very fabric of what we are as men. It is considered a viable part of Liberty, and a God- given right that cannot be denied. So profound is this need, many men would die to keep it…
No disrespect, but there were some who called hunting “a barbaric practice,” and others referring to my particular kill as “Bambi.” Surely, they had to be joking. Could it be that we have among us people who identify with a childhood cartoon personality, with human characteristics? Have we “advanced” to the point were animals are considered higher, or equal to men on the food chain? I’m sure some vegetarian pacifist celibates have come to that conclusion, and a frightful notion for a traditionalist. Some of these folks, of the same cut and jib, are advocating that our American Constitution is a “fluid” document, and needs to change as attitudes change, and this seems most dangerous… Tradition comes from the school of hard knocks, hard won, and many times a survival technique. Change for the sake of change? How did the Obama years fair? Remember, once lost, it is very difficult to get it back…
Anthropomorphism is the word that describes the assumption that human emotions and intellect are in animals, and Hollywood has thoroughly tapped into that sentiment. Though we should have empathy and respect animals, we should not saddle them with our own human characteristics. What primarily separates us from them is our unique frontal lobe’s higher consciousness, something they emphatically do not possess. Emotions and survival instinct should not be confused with intellect, and that brings us to another definition, finely embedded into our physic… personification. This is the related attribution of human form and characteristics, using abstract concepts such as nations, emotions and natural forces like seasons and the weather, to give credence of our reality. We should teach this to our children, while they are watching cartoons, or playing violent video games that revel in killing, for the sake of killing…
To be honest, this trait is found in each and every one of us at one time or another, as we try to define, and ascribe meaning to the world around us. We have, however, been taught a lot of things we have come to question as adults, and some are seen to be little more than lies and fallacies.
Just recently my two oldest grandchildren found that there was no Easter Bunny, Santa, or tooth fairy. After the initial shock, one even questioned the existence of God, and that is a normal response. We have a great gift called the intellect, and that ability gives us a reasoning mind, consciousness. And so, we need to take pause and question just what reality we have been taught as truth, before being so judgmental. Before we take a stance for gun control; before we change a tradition; before we legislate away what just a few years back was a survival technique, we should take a long look and consider just what might be lost…
“Both have ancient roots as storytelling and artistic devices, and most cultures have traditional fables with anthropomorphized animals as characters. People have also routinely attributed human emotions and behavioral traits to wild as well as domestic animals.”
From camera to rifle… and back again
Animals are indeed complex. The elephant, dog, whale, and dolphin for instance, and all endangered species… should not be hunted. Some predators should also be in question too, and given quarter in the wild, like the bear, large cats, and most all monkeys, unless it is necessary in a well-managed game reserve, or, of course, if you are threatened. This may at first glance seem insensitive, but we need to consider and understand our modern circumstances, in relation to our historical past.
I am relatively new at hunting. Before my son-in-law introduced me to the sport about fifteen years ago… my hunting was done entirely with a Minolta camera. For the majority of my woodland experiences, trophies were defined to photos of early evening and mornings of burnt orange and deep blue through the trees. I used a Macro for mushrooms, a zoom lens for a bird, normal lenses for a football game, and a wide angle for family gatherings. I found modern hunting just as specialized, just as complicated in its study and learning. A consideration for depth of field in necessary for an artful photographic capture, and knowing and practicing with your gun and its many various accessories, insures a well orchestrated hunt.
At about the same instant I learned my rifle, I also held a Digital camera for the first time, and there is no turning back for either. Now my Nikon and Browning 7 MAG are inseparable, a symbiotic relationship that gives me great fulfillment, and yet, for dissimilar reasons.
Something happened to me the first time I picked up a camera in the wild. I was hiking with Navy buddies on a little island off the Philippine coast called Grande, back in 1969. On a West Pacific tour aboard the USS Kitty Hawk, some opted for a few days of R and R away from the smoke-filled Olongapoo bars of Subic Bay. Sad to say, but very few chose the good clean fun of scuba and hiking. With wild jungles galore, and voted the third best scuba destination in the world, those days made grand memories for those with an adventure spirit.
My friend Gary carried a Pentex camera. He let me handle it with a new macro lens, and I turned it upon a praying mantis sitting on a leaf. It was amazing to see his entire head come into focus, and fill the frame. “Snap!” And as I took my first Kodachrome slide, I was hooked, and have been now for almost fifty years.
Something similar happened when I shot my first buck. I knew it was the one I had been waiting for, an elusive ten-point my son-in-law had photographed with a night camera the previous season.
Though it was a heart/lung shot, it thundered headlong into the piney Louisiana thicket, disappearing into the evening shadows. I remember what went through my head before I took that shot to this very day. I wanted it clean, not only for the Buck, but I knew that what I did, the quality of my next move, would be remembered by all.
I also remember the apprehension of having to wait the prescribed half hour before tracking it. You learn a lot about yourself as a hunter, and some of what you have inside are rather embarrassing to admit. You see, I just couldn’t wait. I texted my son-in-law the news, and though he reminded me that going after the deer might make him run further, I could not stop myself from immediately going. In two minutes, I was at the site searching for signs, and with a sigh of relief saw a lot of blood. The bullet had gone clean through, and I hoped by the amount that my aim was true. I started taking pictures too…
Deer have an adrenalin rush so powerful they can run a hundred yard dash with a damaged heart, and no oxygen. I know this sounds untrue, but I have seen this many times. Adrenalin overrides pain just as shock does. A seasoned hunter might laugh at such simplistic reminisces, but like that first picture, or a first kiss, it takes something rather powerful to impress an older guy like me.
I was told emphatically that wounded deer are dangerous, and have attacked and even killed an unwary hunter following a blood trail. They can come quickly, virtually invisible in dense thicket, and use their hoofs as formidable weapons. And with this in the back or my mind, and my rifle off-safety, I cautiously tracked the blood trail…
In the quiet of evening, alone in my thoughts, with the woods colored and cool from fall, something deep and commanding took hold. I cannot truly describe it. It was something that welled up, a well-being perhaps, something I see in Gunner, my bird dog, who is bread to point, to track, and retrieve… and without a doubt, men have that inside too. I’m sure not all men, but hunter gatherers, who became farmers, is in my DNA, just like Gunner’s hunting ability.
Blood, from a minuscule dot on a single blade of grass I searched on hands and knees. There, my heart leaped as I saw deep red splashes on the trunk of a tree; it rekindled in me something ancient, seemingly primal, and surely long suppressed, innate. It brought out a primeval mode of thought some men are breed to be, and at the very core of what it means to be a surviving human being. There are some people who consciously attempt to suppress this, for a variety of well meaning reasons, but not very long ago their ancestors waited patiently for their hunters to return carrying a week’s supply of protein on their backs.
It was a good feeling to see that my shot was textbook, and as I stood in the dry autumn grass appraising him, my heart thudded in my chest. I felt alive, and connected to this world in a way I had never felt before. Surely, that feeling is no litmus test for masculinity; it takes all kinds to make our society… but there is, in my book of life, a test of what it means to be a man, and that is wrapped up in a concept called responsibility. Many young men and women today have not been taught that…
My responsible ancestors…
For hundreds of thousands of years, possibly a million, men and women have hunted for survival. Groups of men left their families and sought game in cooperative packs, along with their partner, the dog. When they returned home it was a celebration… not only for their safe return, but the sustenance that insured survival for his family and tribe.
Early American Colonial hunters, who were my ancestors, formed their hunting ability from native Indians and learned respect for both prey and themselves, bordering on reverence. Some even prayed over the downed animal, thanking both it and God for its life, and most hunters I know do this today.
The tools have changed, but what we have inside still burns true for the hunt. It was forged, hardwired in our psyche by the realization that skills and expertise, our collective cooperation, our impetus, brought life to those who depended on us. Hunting was borne of responsibility, the romantic in me thinks… where love is forged. Those who can not grasp this concept, are modern societies’ victims.
Those adventurous exploits, both success and failure, were told around the home-fire so long ago that a good part of that communication were simple hand gestures. No matter what race we are today, the inside of our hands are a reflective white.
The palm of every human can be seen brightly in starlight, moon, and the flickering flash of firelight. Our hands were accents marks for the joyful and sometimes heartbreaking stories they told. It was a tradition that endured for 99 percent of our existence on earth, and should not be so easily discarded. The blackstrap is the most tender and tasty part of the deer, and every culture around the world gave the hunter that as thanks. And yet, as we can witness today… that meat is given by the men to the women and children, a true display of Love.
Men recorded their exploits deep in caves to outlast his fragile life, with artful renderings of multicolored powdered minerals, and those same needs and expressions are at the heart of the modern hunter today. This is why I take pictures.
The modern hunter
Putting a mount above his fire-place records the best of his experiences. It represents the efficiency in his choice of weapons, the patience and persistence it took to achieve his goal, the solidarity and patience of long hours, the company he kept, the dreams and memories he alone have made, but also something far more profound and obscure. It indicates a degree of modern men, with a measure of our ancestors, and this revelation cannot be denied.
The modern hunter sits in a painted aluminum tree-stand dressed in state of the art camouflage from head to foot, accented by an invisible orange safety vest over thermal underwear, washed and prepared not to smell.
Several chemical heat packs are in his pockets and boots… Night-vision binoculars… a high-powered lightweight composite rifle with full-metal-jacket ammunition… a directional, battery-powered LED flash-light… a telephone/computer on vibrate… clean water in a plastic bottle… a realistic animal-call… a satellite GPS to find his way home… multi-varieties of pheromone sent-spray that doubles as a insect repellent… pin-point range finders for accurate distance… are standard, and reasonably priced. He can record his experience with an HD 26.0 maga-pixel Sony HANDICAM 1080, mounted next to his scope that can see as well as a hawk.
While in his blind, he can check stocks… text his friends in a nearby stand… research the name of any bird he sees… be warned in a change of weather… play a game… and a myriad of other mind-occupying functions the modern mind demands. He can wear a hearing protector that amplifies the sounds of the woods 20 times, surpassing that of his dog, who he still watches for directions… still sitting at his feet. And even when the knob is turned all the way up, he can shoot his rifle without harming his hearing.
His trophy-mount will be done by a professional, amazingly life-like, or a simple Euro-mount as requested by his wife.
His kill is not processed by tribal women any more, but packaged for his freezer from steaks to smoked-sausage, hermetically sealed by a hunter’s slaughter-house to last years. An obsidian-glass, or flint knife is no longer required to peal leather, as his clothes are mostly synthetic, instilled with odorless multi-colored dyes in computer generated patterns that camouflage for every season.
No longer is he required to freeze-dry strips of meat on racks of saplings for weeks for winter storage, and tanning using the animal’s brain is a method no longer feasible but for the most primitive societies. Precious salt is in abundance now, with hardly a thought of its rarity and extreme health benefits, lacking just two generations ago… and fresh water can be kept cool in a double walled thermos. Today he has infusion drinks, vitamin and salt enriched, tasty fruit and nut bars wrapped in a healthy synthetic plastic made from oil. If he feels sick or weak, he can pull out an energy drink, and take an aspirin…
It is said that primitive hunters were more at one with nature, and that their secret activities are mostly lost. This may very well be true, but the reality of a modern hunter is his virtual control of nature, something our ancestors could not effectively do. In other words, modern hunters try not only to acclimate with nature, but to control it as well. Our ancestors would be proud of our accomplishments, and quickly utilize every tool available. That is the way of men.
On the wall next to my fire place is my ten-point Euro-mount, and I show the experience to my family on a HD flat-screen 3-D TV . On my gas pit I am smoking a roast from my latest hunt, and will invite all of my hunting buddies to retell and embellish our stories, just as former hunters did so many years ago. Even with our far-advanced verbal skills, hand gestures are still used to accent.
Oh, the irony…
It is indeed ironic, but hunters do more than anyone, including Government mandate or agency to safeguard ecology. It is in their best interest to save and restore wetlands, forests, and natural habitats, and all can benefit from his savvy knowledge. On private and public lands alike, hunters are in partnership with research ecologists and government agencies who use variable sciences to maintain a balanced nature and an uncontaminated wildlife habitat for the enjoyment of every kind of outdoors-man, from bird-watcher to mountain climber. And yet, each year, for a wide variety of reasons, hunters grow less and less. We are indeed an endangered species, as humanity forgets his heritage.
Author’s note: The vision of Whit Gibons, of the University of Florida, is a note he wrote years ago about the needed involvement of hunters in maintaining our forests. He wrote: “Why is hunting good for the environment?” I found it a good source of information of that time, because times are rapidly changing, and recognized that he had an overt premonition of what is happening today.
He stated:
“Of course, what makes a “good” forest for a hunter may be different from what other groups consider a “good” environment, and compromises must be made to accommodate all of them. Nonetheless, the time has come when hunters must become involved in partnerships with other groups who have an equally fervent interest in maintaining healthy habitats of forests, streams, and small wetlands. The time has also come when these other groups must look to the hunting community for what they can contribute to environmental prosperity.” -Whit Gibons
From my diary, 2008
“As the sun moves glinting through the trees, the day slowly slants by shadows that lengthen in deep purple and pink tones. Through the dazzle of autumn leaves I see all manner of small animals going about their business… the rabbit on the field… the squirrel chattering above my head… clouds of black birds flying in unison on a perfect blue sky… the music of the wind in the pines… and the smells, sight and sounds of life fills me… As the night falls all too soon, from blue to gold and burnt orange, the songs of birds give way to locusts, and then crickets… and as on cue, an acorn falls to awakens us from these hypnotic suggestions… the night settles in around us moist and cool on our shoulders…. We are reluctantly nudged to climb down from our precarious tree-perch… the way we do most nights at the end of a day of hunting, empty-handed, but filled with awe.” -Diary of Ken LaRive 2008
Peek-a-boo!
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From the Author, Ken La Rive – We in the Liberty movement have been fighting to take back this country for less than a decade, peacefully and with the love of God and country in our hearts. Our banner has been trampled on and displaced by a multitude of distractions, further eroding our nation and the cause for Liberty. And so, as we are pulled by forces we cannot fathom, powerful entities with unlimited resources stolen from our future, unaccountable trillions printed out of thin air and put on our backs as debt, we must formulate the most pitiful of all questions any patriot might ask in the final hour: Are we going to fight for our master’s tyranny, or are we going to demand the return of our civil liberties and Constitution? Are we going to choose The Banner of Liberty, or the shackles of voluntary servitude? Will it be a war for corporate profit, or a war to regain our ability to self govern, as the blood and toil of our forefathers presented to us, their children, as a gift? I fear that decision is emanate. I fear that any decision will be a hard one, but my greatest fear of all is that the decision has already been made for us.
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thelibertybeacon--2020-09-01--BLM Speaker: I Want to Put These Police In The F***ing Grave, Burn Down The White House

BLM Speaker : I Want to Put These Police In The F***ing Grave , Burn Down The White House A radical Black Lives Matter terrorist made the organization ’ s stark admissions of violence and wanton death and destruction at the Black Lives Matter Plaza in Washington , DC on Saturday night .
A speaker who addressed a group at Black Lives Matter Plaza in Washington , D.C. , threatened to kill police officers and burn down the White House .
“ I ’ m at the point where I want to put these police in the f**king grave , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ I ’ m at the point where I want to burn the fu**ing White House down .
I want to take it to the senators .
I want to take it to the Congress .
I want to take the fight to them.
” He urged those in the front lines to fight police with everything they had .
“ And at the end of the day , if they ain ’ t going to hear us , we burn them the f**k down .
I ’ m one that talks real shit @ @ @ @ @ @ @ York and I ’ m talking to DC .
The same way I f**k police up in New York , I f**k cops up here in DC .
The same way I bust police in the head in New York , the same way I bust police in the head in DC , ” he said .
The man threatened to burn down the White House , attack Congress and kill police officers .
That ’ s not a peaceful protest .
That ’ s a terrorist manifesto .
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BLM Speaker: I Want to Put These Police In The F***ing Grave, Burn Down The White House
By: Alicia Luke
A radical Black Lives Matter terrorist made the organization’s stark admissions of violence and wanton death and destruction at the Black Lives Matter Plaza in Washington, DC on Saturday night.
A speaker who addressed a group at Black Lives Matter Plaza in Washington, D.C., threatened to kill police officers and burn down the White House.
“I’m at the point where I want to put these police in the f**king grave,” the unidentified speaker said. “I’m at the point where I want to burn the fu**ing White House down. I want to take it to the senators. I want to take it to the Congress. I want to take the fight to them.”
He urged those in the front lines to fight police with everything they had.
“And at the end of the day, if they ain’t going to hear us, we burn them the f**k down. I’m one that talks real shit. I’m talking to New York and I’m talking to DC. The same way I f**k police up in New York, I f**k cops up here in DC. The same way I bust police in the head in New York, the same way I bust police in the head in DC,” he said.
The man threatened to burn down the White House, attack Congress and kill police officers. That’s not a peaceful protest. That’s a terrorist manifesto.
Here’s the video (strong language warning):
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thelibertybeacon--2020-09-01--Considering The Charges Against Kyle Rittenhouse

On August 27th , prosecutors in Kenosha County filed six charges against Kyle Rittenhouse which read as follows : • None First degree reckless homicide , use of a dangerous weapon • None First degree recklessly endangering safety , use of a dangerous weapon • None First degree intentional homicide , use of a dangerous weapon • None Attempt first degree intentional homicide , use of a dangerous weapon • None First degree recklessly endangering safety , use of a dangerous weapon • None Possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18 .
A detailed breakdown of the @ @ @ @ @ @ @ here .
What follows is a breakdown of the law applicable to the case .
Counts 1 , 3 , and 4 relate to shots fired at Joseph Rosenbaum , Anthony Huber , and Gaige Grosskreutz respectively , all of whom are on film attacking Kyle Rittenhouse as he attempts to flee .
Count 2 is ancillary to Count 1 , relating to Daily Caller reporter Richard McGinnis , who was following Rosenbaum at the time of the incident and was therefore in Kyle ’ s line of fire .
Count 5 refers @ @ @ @ @ @ @ unknown male who attempted a jumping stomp on Kyle ’ s head after he tripped and fell while fleeing a violent mob .
Both shots missed and the man fled the scene .
Count 6 is an attempt to punish Kyle for merely having the gun .
The defense against Counts 1 to 5 will be Wisconsin ’ s broad self-defense laws .
Citizens have no duty to flee when endangered ( although Kyle did ) and maintain self-defense privileges even if attacked by those one provokes ( so long as the provocation @ @ @ @ @ @ @ There is no duty to use the least possible force when threatened , only reasonable force , a standard judged by the person in question .
In other words , prosecutors must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Kyle Rittenhouse did not believe he had risk of great bodily harm and that the force he used was unreasonable according to Kyle ’ s own standards .
Unlikely , given the facts of the case .
Additionally , both men killed by Rittenhouse had their hands on Kyle ’ s gun at the time @ @ @ @ @ @ @ by eyewitness Richard McGinnis and videos of the incident , making the men in possession of a gun .
Both Rosenbaum and Huber were convicted felons and therefore may not possess firearms in Wisconsin .
Bizarrely , even the charges mention that the men had grabbed Rittenhouse ’ s gun , undermining the prosecutors ’ allegations .
Worse yet , Gaige Grosskreutz , the third felon shot by Rittenhouse , had an illegal handgun drawn and pointed at Rittenhouse just before being shot .
Grosskreutz later admitted through a third party that “ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ kid and hesitating to pull the gun before emptying the entire mag into him.
” Grosskreutz has not been charged with a crime .
We are left with Count 6 , illegal possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18 .
Kyle Rittenhouse is only 17 , an open and shut case , right ?
Not quite .
There is an exception for minors under 18 years of age armed with a rifle , which Kyle was indeed armed with .
There are exceptions to this exception dealing with persons under @ @ @ @ @ @ @ are applicable in this case .
Kyle Rittenhouse escapes this charge as well .
Considering the facts of the case and the state laws governing Wisconsin , it becomes clear that Kyle ’ s actions were not reckless — the prosecutor ’ s decisions were .
The story of Kyle Rittenhouse is more than a gripping piece of news , it is a telling philosophical Rorschach test .
A lone individual stood up to a mob of violent felons , abusers , and pedophiles , asserting his right to live over their lust @ @ @ @ @ @ @ While the American public , generous in their deference for human life , and may have paused in horror at the shootings , the tide of public opinion is turning for Kyle as the deluge of exculpatory facts break through the dam of misinformation .
Americans should take note at which institutions were quick to back Kyle , which condemned him , and the cowards in between .
America ’ s Founders foresaw the need for armed young men to rise to the defense of their communities against rioters , looters , and @ @ @ @ @ @ @ fought in the American Revolution , put down insurrections under George Washington , and trained in militia groups in anticipation of threats .
It was for these men that the 2nd Amendment was written , and it is men like Kyle whom the amendment must continue to protect .
The frailty of the charges brought against Kyle Rittenhouse show the well from which the insurrectionist mobs draw their power : the political class , the prosecutor ’ s office , and the media .
Rittenhouse is charged with allegations refuted by the prosecutor @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Portland murderer can gun down Trump supporters in the street because prosecutors declined to press charges for his gun crimes .
The privilege of immunity for city leaders and prosecutors who abdicate their duties must end .
It is time for President Trump to order his Justice Department to lock up corrupt prosecutors and city leaders who knowingly put people in danger .
Until then , we depend on citizens like Kyle Rittenhouse .
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The Charges Against Kyle Rittenhouse
By: Grant Baker
On August 27th, prosecutors in Kenosha County filed six charges against Kyle Rittenhouse which read as follows:
First degree reckless homicide, use of a dangerous weapon First degree recklessly endangering safety, use of a dangerous weapon First degree intentional homicide, use of a dangerous weapon Attempt first degree intentional homicide, use of a dangerous weapon First degree recklessly endangering safety, use of a dangerous weapon Possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18.
A detailed breakdown of the facts of the case can be found here. What follows is a breakdown of the law applicable to the case.
Counts 1, 3, and 4 relate to shots fired at Joseph Rosenbaum, Anthony Huber, and Gaige Grosskreutz respectively, all of whom are on film attacking Kyle Rittenhouse as he attempts to flee. Count 2 is ancillary to Count 1, relating to Daily Caller reporter Richard McGinnis, who was following Rosenbaum at the time of the incident and was therefore in Kyle’s line of fire. Count 5 refers to the two shots fired at the unknown male who attempted a jumping stomp on Kyle’s head after he tripped and fell while fleeing a violent mob. Both shots missed and the man fled the scene. Count 6 is an attempt to punish Kyle for merely having the gun.
The defense against Counts 1 to 5 will be Wisconsin’s broad self-defense laws. Citizens have no duty to flee when endangered (although Kyle did) and maintain self-defense privileges even if attacked by those one provokes (so long as the provocation did not include criminal entrapment). There is no duty to use the least possible force when threatened, only reasonable force, a standard judged by the person in question. In other words, prosecutors must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Kyle Rittenhouse did not believe he had risk of great bodily harm and that the force he used was unreasonable according to Kyle’s own standards. Unlikely, given the facts of the case.
Additionally, both men killed by Rittenhouse had their hands on Kyle’s gun at the time of being shot, a detail confirmed by eyewitness Richard McGinnis and videos of the incident, making the men in possession of a gun. Both Rosenbaum and Huber were convicted felons and therefore may not possess firearms in Wisconsin. Bizarrely, even the charges mention that the men had grabbed Rittenhouse’s gun, undermining the prosecutors’ allegations. Worse yet, Gaige Grosskreutz, the third felon shot by Rittenhouse, had an illegal handgun drawn and pointed at Rittenhouse just before being shot. Grosskreutz later admitted through a third party that “his only regret was not killing the kid and hesitating to pull the gun before emptying the entire mag into him.” Grosskreutz has not been charged with a crime.
We are left with Count 6, illegal possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18. Kyle Rittenhouse is only 17, an open and shut case, right? Not quite. There is an exception for minors under 18 years of age armed with a rifle, which Kyle was indeed armed with. There are exceptions to this exception dealing with persons under 16 and hunting approvals, but neither are applicable in this case. Kyle Rittenhouse escapes this charge as well.
Considering the facts of the case and the state laws governing Wisconsin, it becomes clear that Kyle’s actions were not reckless — the prosecutor’s decisions were.
The story of Kyle Rittenhouse is more than a gripping piece of news, it is a telling philosophical Rorschach test. A lone individual stood up to a mob of violent felons, abusers, and pedophiles, asserting his right to live over their lust for his blood, and won. While the American public, generous in their deference for human life, and may have paused in horror at the shootings, the tide of public opinion is turning for Kyle as the deluge of exculpatory facts break through the dam of misinformation. Americans should take note at which institutions were quick to back Kyle, which condemned him, and the cowards in between.
America’s Founders foresaw the need for armed young men to rise to the defense of their communities against rioters, looters, and foreign invaders. Men younger than Kyle fought in the American Revolution, put down insurrections under George Washington, and trained in militia groups in anticipation of threats. It was for these men that the 2nd Amendment was written, and it is men like Kyle whom the amendment must continue to protect.
The frailty of the charges brought against Kyle Rittenhouse show the well from which the insurrectionist mobs draw their power: the political class, the prosecutor’s office, and the media. Rittenhouse is charged with allegations refuted by the prosecutor’s own complaint, but the Portland murderer can gun down Trump supporters in the street because prosecutors declined to press charges for his gun crimes. The privilege of immunity for city leaders and prosecutors who abdicate their duties must end. It is time for President Trump to order his Justice Department to lock up corrupt prosecutors and city leaders who knowingly put people in danger.
Until then, we depend on citizens like Kyle Rittenhouse.
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thelibertybeacon--2020-09-01--NYT Piece Finds PCR Test Not Fit for Purpose – Stunning Admission [VIDEO]

ER Editor : Surprise surprise , the New York Times is FINALLY doubting the usefulness and validity of the PCR test , the official lab test to determine if we ’ ve got the virus .
This piece could , of course , have been written months ago , before the epidemic of testing got going .
The key problem is the number of lab ‘ cycles ’ needed to amplify genetic material in order to determine the presence of the virus .
• Fewer cycles required means the patient is carrying a larger viral load – thus the patient @ @ @ @ @ @ @ be sick , a large amount of the virus needs to be present ) .
In other words , the lab test doesn ’ t have to do too much to find the virus .
• More required cycles ( above 30-35 ) means the patient is carrying very little of the virus for the test to be meaningless and the patient neither sick nor contagious .
In other words , you have to work hard to find any viral presence .
This article has found its way into various publications over the @ @ @ @ @ @ @ republishing relevant paragraphs below ( in an article which otherwise seems to endorse MORE testing , contrary to the doctors we ’ ve published ) , with live commentary by 21Wire ’ s Patrick Henningsen on yesterday ’ s edition of UK Column , who breaks the issue down very well .
As he points out , faulty testing , finding too many so-called positives , is what is allowing us to ramp up the number of ‘ cases ’ when they ’ re not really cases of sickness at all ( the @ @ @ @ @ @ @ 20:00 mins ) : Is your coronavirus test positive ?
Maybe it shouldn ’ t be .
The usual diagnostic tests may simply be too sensitive and too slow to contain the spread of the virus .
Some of the nation ’ s leading public health experts are raising a new concern in the endless debate over coronavirus testing in the United States : The standard tests are diagnosing huge numbers of people who may be carrying relatively insignificant amounts of the virus .
Most of these people are not likely to be @ @ @ @ @ @ @ to bottlenecks that prevent those who are contagious from being found in time .
But researchers say the solution is not to test less , or to skip testing people without symptoms , as recently suggested by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention .
The most widely used diagnostic test for the new coronavirus , called a PCR test , provides a simple yes-no answer to the question of whether a patient is infected .
But similar PCR tests for other viruses do offer some sense of how contagious an infected patient @ @ @ @ @ @ @ a rough estimate of the amount of virus in the patient ’ s body .
“ We ’ ve been using one type of data for everything , and that is just plus or minus — that ’ s all , ” Dr. Mina said .
“ We ’ re using that for clinical diagnostics , for public health , for policy decision-making.
” But yes-no isn ’ t good enough , he added .
It ’ s the amount of virus that should dictate the infected patient ’ s next steps .
@ @ @ @ @ @ @ I think , to forgo the recognition that this is a quantitative issue , ” Dr. Mina said .
The PCR test amplifies genetic matter from the virus in cycles ; the fewer cycles required , the greater the amount of virus , or viral load , in the sample .
The greater the viral load , the more likely the patient is to be contagious .
This number of amplification cycles needed to find the virus , called the cycle threshold , is never included in the results sent to doctors and @ @ @ @ @ @ @ them how infectious the patients are .
In three sets of testing data that include cycle thresholds , compiled by officials in Massachusetts , New York and Nevada , up to 90 percent of people testing positive carried barely any virus , a review by The Times found .
On Thursday , the United States recorded 45,604 new coronavirus cases , according to a database maintained by The Times .
If the rates of contagiousness in Massachusetts and New York were to apply nationwide , then perhaps only 4,500 of those people may @ @ @ @ @ @ @ contact tracing .
One solution would be to adjust the cycle threshold used now to decide that a patient is infected .
Most tests set the limit at 40 , a few at 37 .
This means that you are positive for the coronavirus if the test process required up to 40 cycles , or 37 , to detect the virus .
Tests with thresholds so high may detect not just live virus but also genetic fragments , leftovers from infection that pose no particular risk — akin to finding a hair in @ @ @ @ @ @ @ left , Dr. Mina said .
Any test with a cycle threshold above 35 is too sensitive , agreed Juliet Morrison , a virologist at the University of California , Riverside .
“ I ’ m shocked that people would think that 40 could represent a positive , ” she said .
A more reasonable cutoff would be 30 to 35 , she added .
Dr. Mina said he would set the figure at 30 , or even less .
Those changes would mean the amount of genetic material in a patient ’ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ to 1,000-fold that of the current standard for the test to return a positive result — at least , one worth acting on .
In Massachusetts , from 85 to 90 percent of people who tested positive in July with a cycle threshold of 40 would have been deemed negative if the threshold were 30 cycles , Dr. Mina said .
“ I would say that none of those people should be contact-traced , not one , ” he said .
Other experts informed of these numbers were stunned .
“ I ’ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ that high — the proportion of people with high C.T .
value results , ” said Dr. Ashish Jha , director of the Harvard Global Health Institute .
“ Boy , does it really change the way we need to be thinking about testing.
” Apoorva Mandavilli is a reporter for The Times , focusing on science and global health .
She is the 2019 winner of the Victor Cohn Prize for Excellence in Medical Science Reporting .
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ER Editor: Surprise surprise, the New York Times is FINALLY doubting the usefulness and validity of the PCR test, the official lab test to determine if we’ve got the virus. This piece could, of course, have been written months ago, before the epidemic of testing got going.
The key problem is the number of lab ‘cycles’ needed to amplify genetic material in order to determine the presence of the virus.
Fewer cycles required means the patient is carrying a larger viral load – thus the patient may be sick and contagious (to be sick, a large amount of the virus needs to be present). In other words, the lab test doesn’t have to do too much to find the virus.
– thus the patient may be sick and contagious (to be sick, a large amount of the virus needs to be present). In other words, More required cycles (above 30-35) means the patient is carrying very little of the virus for the test to be meaningless and the patient neither sick nor contagious. In other words, you have to work hard to find any viral presence.
This article has found its way into various publications over the last 24 hours. We’re republishing relevant paragraphs below (in an article which otherwise seems to endorse MORE testing, contrary to the doctors we’ve published), with live commentary by 21Wire’s Patrick Henningsen on yesterday’s edition of UK Column, who breaks the issue down very well.
As he points out, faulty testing, finding too many so-called positives, is what is allowing us to ramp up the number of ‘cases’ when they’re not really cases of sickness at all (the segment runs from 13:22 mins to approximately 20:00 mins):
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Is your coronavirus test positive? Maybe it shouldn’t be.
The usual diagnostic tests may simply be too sensitive and too slow to contain the spread of the virus.
APOORVA MANDAVILLI
Some of the nation’s leading public health experts are raising a new concern in the endless debate over coronavirus testing in the United States: The standard tests are diagnosing huge numbers of people who may be carrying relatively insignificant amounts of the virus.
Most of these people are not likely to be contagious, and identifying them may contribute to bottlenecks that prevent those who are contagious from being found in time. But researchers say the solution is not to test less, or to skip testing people without symptoms, as recently suggested by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
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The most widely used diagnostic test for the new coronavirus, called a PCR test, provides a simple yes-no answer to the question of whether a patient is infected. But similar PCR tests for other viruses do offer some sense of how contagious an infected patient may be: The results may include a rough estimate of the amount of virus in the patient’s body. “We’ve been using one type of data for everything, and that is just plus or minus — that’s all,” Dr. Mina said. “We’re using that for clinical diagnostics, for public health, for policy decision-making.”
But yes-no isn’t good enough, he added. It’s the amount of virus that should dictate the infected patient’s next steps. “It’s really irresponsible, I think, to forgo the recognition that this is a quantitative issue,” Dr. Mina said. The PCR test amplifies genetic matter from the virus in cycles; the fewer cycles required, the greater the amount of virus, or viral load, in the sample. The greater the viral load, the more likely the patient is to be contagious. This number of amplification cycles needed to find the virus, called the cycle threshold, is never included in the results sent to doctors and coronavirus patients, although it could tell them how infectious the patients are. In three sets of testing data that include cycle thresholds, compiled by officials in Massachusetts, New York and Nevada, up to 90 percent of people testing positive carried barely any virus, a review by The Times found. On Thursday, the United States recorded 45,604 new coronavirus cases, according to a database maintained by The Times. If the rates of contagiousness in Massachusetts and New York were to apply nationwide, then perhaps only 4,500 of those people may actually need to isolate and submit to contact tracing. One solution would be to adjust the cycle threshold used now to decide that a patient is infected. Most tests set the limit at 40, a few at 37. This means that you are positive for the coronavirus if the test process required up to 40 cycles, or 37, to detect the virus. Tests with thresholds so high may detect not just live virus but also genetic fragments, leftovers from infection that pose no particular risk — akin to finding a hair in a room long after a person has left, Dr. Mina said. Any test with a cycle threshold above 35 is too sensitive, agreed Juliet Morrison, a virologist at the University of California, Riverside. “I’m shocked that people would think that 40 could represent a positive,” she said. A more reasonable cutoff would be 30 to 35, she added. Dr. Mina said he would set the figure at 30, or even less. Those changes would mean the amount of genetic material in a patient’s sample would have to be 100-fold to 1,000-fold that of the current standard for the test to return a positive result — at least, one worth acting on. …
In Massachusetts, from 85 to 90 percent of people who tested positive in July with a cycle threshold of 40 would have been deemed negative if the threshold were 30 cycles, Dr. Mina said. “I would say that none of those people should be contact-traced, not one,” he said.
Other experts informed of these numbers were stunned.
“I’m really shocked that it could be that high — the proportion of people with high C.T. value results,” said Dr. Ashish Jha, director of the Harvard Global Health Institute. “Boy, does it really change the way we need to be thinking about testing.”
Apoorva Mandavilli is a reporter for The Times, focusing on science and global health. She is the 2019 winner of the Victor Cohn Prize for Excellence in Medical Science Reporting. @apoorva_nyc
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The Liberty Beacon Project is now expanding at a near exponential rate, and for this we are grateful and excited! But we must also be practical. For 7 years we have not asked for any donations, and have built this project with our own funds as we grew. We are now experiencing ever increasing growing pains due to the large number of websites and projects we represent. So we have just installed donation buttons on our websites and ask that you consider this when you visit them. Nothing is too small. We thank you for all your support and your considerations … (TLB)
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