crooksandliars--2020-12-07--Stephanie Ruhle Is Recovering From COVID: 'It's Privilege That Lets You Quarantine'

This is a passionate plea to level the economic playing field so more people wo n't die .
We 're so sorry your family got COVID , Stephanie Ruhle .
It 's time to hold REPUBLICANS accountable for stopping the needed aid .
Talking about `` government '' does n't cut it .
That said , this is a good rant from someone who got it , and who gets it : STEPHANIE RUHLE : As I mentioned at the top of the show , I am back at work broadcasting safely at home after spending the last two weeks @ @ @ @ @ @ @ .
I did all the right things : in fact , I wore a mask , kept my distance , but still , I got COVID .
And I realize that doing the right thing is n't enough .
Our federal government is n't giving the incentive or the punitive consequences to influence the decisions we 're making every day .
Virtually no support for those who ca n't afford to isolate and stay at home , and no real legal action for those who refuse .
For my husband and me , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Our kids , no symptoms whatsoever .
Without access to rapid testing or the financial and job security to devote the last two weeks to quarantining , all of us would have spread it .
Yes .
The isolation days are not easy , but they 're necessary .
And yet , millions of people ca n't afford to isolate .
They 're walking around and do n't know they have it .
Or worse , they just do n't care .
And we 're all just crossing our fingers waiting for a @ @ @ @ @ @ @ doing much to address this crisis at the moment .
Millions of people like me , we get the virus and do n't need hospital care .
And there is nothing forcing us to quarantine and protect our community .
We keep urging people to get tested , but results take days .
We 're told just to isolate but how do we do that ?
In other parts of the world a positive COVID test puts you in a government-sponsored hotel for two weeks .
Would I like that ?
No , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ and a few weeks than to risk spreading the virus even more , maybe killing my extended family .
It started with my husband the day before Thanksgiving .
He woke up not feeling that great .
Kind of like a hangover which he 's had before .
But because it was right before a holiday , we took action and any other day , I do n't think we would have gotten him tested .
But to be safe , we did .
And he tested positive .
So we all immediately @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , me on my own and my three kids basically taking care of themselves , relying on friends and neighbors to drop off food at our door .
I tested positive two days later .
Had we not tested , our family would have potentially exposed our colleagues , our neighbors , our kid 's schools .
We were one day away from unknowingly potentially being super spreaders .
We are so lucky that we got tested so quickly .
We are lucky to be privileged , but betting on luck is a @ @ @ @ @ @ @ sorts of strange symptoms .
Different ones every day .
The worst was the fear and anxiety of what each day was to bring and who I may have infected .
Fears that for me were all manageable because I 'm very lucky to have great doctors who are answering my calls .
And because I was able to put my life on hold and focus on my health for nearly two weeks .
That is not a normal circumstance for most Americans .
It 's not our norm .
Stress , anxiety @ @ @ @ @ @ @ .
And those are partly to blame for why the spread continues .
Take this example : somebody else who is doing the right thing .
The person who cuts my hair who I had potentially exposed .
She canceled her thanksgiving .
She took her kids out of school .
She stopped going to work and in turn , made $ 0 for the next nearly two weeks .
She waited three hours to go get a test , a test that came back negative eight days later .
That 's what @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Do you think millions of people are doing that for real ?
The answer is many of them are not .
And here 's why .
The truth is , when you have COVID like I do , you can shop .
You can work .
You can send your kids to school .
All while spreading this virus .
And by the way , those temperature takers in gyms and restaurants , they 're following the protocols .
But had anyone taken my temperature or my husband 's , they 'd have @ @ @ @ @ @ @ fevers .
Hourly wage workers are going to work sick because they ca n't afford not to .
Their employers are ignoring the symptoms because they 're trying to keep their businesses alive and adding to the confusion , during the time I was isolating , the CDC changed the guidelines from 14 days to 10 days .
And then there are people who know they are spreading it and they do n't care .
I also learned that people do n't want to take your call .
When you 're thinking you @ @ @ @ @ @ @ them you may have exposed them to the virus , they do n't want to hear the potential inconvenience on them .
And that is a problem .
Especially when there is no one to hold them to account .
Here 's the truth .
Millions can not afford to deal with the virus .
And millions more refuse .
And we do n't have a vaccine yet .
This virus is n't over , and now is not the time to get complacent .
Please .
This is our reality .
And @ @ @ @ @ @ @ government is doing very little to make these guidelines any easier to follow .
The right thing is a lot easier the more privileged you are .
COVID does n't care if you 're rich , poor , black , white , young , old .
COVID does n't care if it 's Thanksgiving , Christmas , or your birthday , but how we manage this virus is a whole lot easier if you 're lucky to have the privilege of support .
The only way we can get through this is to @ @ @ @ @ @ @ .
And after having COVID , I know now more than ever we absolutely do not .
We 've got to change that .
You can read more about my experience on MSNBC News online .
Thank you for being here .

This is a passionate plea to level the economic playing field so more people won't die. We're so sorry your family got COVID, Stephanie Ruhle. It's time to hold REPUBLICANS accountable for stopping the needed aid. Talking about "government" doesn't cut it.
That said, this is a good rant from someone who got it, and who gets it:
STEPHANIE RUHLE: As I mentioned at the top of the show, I am back at work broadcasting safely at home after spending the last two weeks at home isolating and recovering from COVID-19. I did all the right things: in fact, I wore a mask, kept my distance, but still, I got COVID. And I realize that doing the right thing isn't enough.
Our federal government isn't giving the incentive or the punitive consequences to influence the decisions we're making every day. Virtually no support for those who can't afford to isolate and stay at home, and no real legal action for those who refuse.
For my husband and me, COVID was like a brutal flu. Our kids, no symptoms whatsoever. Without access to rapid testing or the financial and job security to devote the last two weeks to quarantining, all of us would have spread it. Yes. The isolation days are not easy, but they're necessary. And yet, millions of people can't afford to isolate. They're walking around and don't know they have it. Or worse, they just don't care.
And we're all just crossing our fingers waiting for a vaccine. Our leaders really aren't doing much to address this crisis at the moment. Millions of people like me, we get the virus and don't need hospital care. And there is nothing forcing us to quarantine and protect our community. We keep urging people to get tested, but results take days. We're told just to isolate but how do we do that? In other parts of the world a positive COVID test puts you in a government-sponsored hotel for two weeks. Would I like that? No, but I would rather miss a holiday and a few weeks than to risk spreading the virus even more, maybe killing my extended family.
It started with my husband the day before Thanksgiving. He woke up not feeling that great. Kind of like a hangover which he's had before. But because it was right before a holiday, we took action and any other day, I don't think we would have gotten him tested. But to be safe, we did. And he tested positive. So we all immediately isolated. My husband on his own, me on my own and my three kids basically taking care of themselves, relying on friends and neighbors to drop off food at our door. I tested positive two days later. Had we not tested, our family would have potentially exposed our colleagues, our neighbors, our kid's schools. We were one day away from unknowingly potentially being super spreaders.
We are so lucky that we got tested so quickly. We are lucky to be privileged, but betting on luck is a failed national strategy.
I have all sorts of strange symptoms. Different ones every day. The worst was the fear and anxiety of what each day was to bring and who I may have infected. Fears that for me were all manageable because I'm very lucky to have great doctors who are answering my calls. And because I was able to put my life on hold and focus on my health for nearly two weeks. That is not a normal circumstance for most Americans. It's not our norm. Stress, anxiety, and confusion. Those are norms. And those are partly to blame for why the spread continues.
Take this example: somebody else who is doing the right thing. The person who cuts my hair who I had potentially exposed. She canceled her thanksgiving. She took her kids out of school. She stopped going to work and in turn, made $0 for the next nearly two weeks. She waited three hours to go get a test, a test that came back negative eight days later. That's what we're asking America to do. Do you think millions of people are doing that for real? The answer is many of them are not. And here's why. The truth is, when you have COVID like I do, you can shop. You can work. You can send your kids to school. All while spreading this virus.
And by the way, those temperature takers in gyms and restaurants, they're following the protocols. But had anyone taken my temperature or my husband's, they'd have let us in. We had no fevers. Hourly wage workers are going to work sick because they can't afford not to. Their employers are ignoring the symptoms because they're trying to keep their businesses alive and adding to the confusion, during the time I was isolating, the CDC changed the guidelines from 14 days to 10 days.
And then there are people who know they are spreading it and they don't care. I also learned that people don't want to take your call. When you're thinking you're doing the right thing and telling them you may have exposed them to the virus, they don't want to hear the potential inconvenience on them. And that is a problem. Especially when there is no one to hold them to account. Here's the truth. Millions cannot afford to deal with the virus. And millions more refuse. And we don't have a vaccine yet. This virus isn't over, and now is not the time to get complacent. Please. This is our reality.
And what is most concerning is that our government is doing very little to make these guidelines any easier to follow. The right thing is a lot easier the more privileged you are. COVID doesn't care if you're rich, poor, black, white, young, old. COVID doesn't care if it's Thanksgiving, Christmas, or your birthday, but how we manage this virus is a whole lot easier if you're lucky to have the privilege of support. The only way we can get through this is to have a system that works for everyone. And after having COVID, I know now more than ever we absolutely do not. We've got to change that. You can read more about my experience on MSNBC News online. Thank you for being here.


crooksandliars--2020-12-07--Exposé: How FL Gov. Ron DeSantis Deliberately Misled Residents About Covid

The South Florida Sun-Sentinel examined thousands of documents and interviewed dozens of people to verify what a lot of Florida residents already suspected : Their governor was lying to them about covid .
Throughout the COVID-19 crisis in Florida , Gov .
Ron DeSantis ’ administration engaged in a pattern of spin and concealment that misled the public on the gravest health threat the state has ever faced , a South Florida Sun Sentinel investigation has found .
DeSantis , who owes his job to early support from President Donald Trump , imposed an approach in line with the views @ @ @ @ @ @ @ of supporters .
The administration suppressed unfavorable facts , dispensed dangerous misinformation , dismissed public health professionals , and promoted the views of scientific dissenters who supported the governor ’ s approach to the disease .
The DeSantis administration ’ s approach to managing COVID-19 information carries costs .
It supports a climate in which people proudly disdain masks , engage in dangerous group activities that could spread the disease , and brush aside information that conflicts with their political views .
With partygoers packing Florida bars and holiday travelers filling hotels and @ @ @ @ @ @ @ few difficult months before the possible relief of vaccines .
These findings are based on interviews with more than 50 people , including scientists , doctors , political leaders , employees of the state health department , and other state officials , as well as more than 4,000 pages of documents .

The South Florida Sun-Sentinel examined thousands of documents and interviewed dozens of people to verify what a lot of Florida residents already suspected: Their governor was lying to them about covid.
Throughout the COVID-19 crisis in Florida, Gov. Ron DeSantis’ administration engaged in a pattern of spin and concealment that misled the public on the gravest health threat the state has ever faced, a South Florida Sun Sentinel investigation has found.
DeSantis, who owes his job to early support from President Donald Trump, imposed an approach in line with the views of the president and his powerful base of supporters. The administration suppressed unfavorable facts, dispensed dangerous misinformation, dismissed public health professionals, and promoted the views of scientific dissenters who supported the governor’s approach to the disease.
The DeSantis administration’s approach to managing COVID-19 information carries costs. It supports a climate in which people proudly disdain masks, engage in dangerous group activities that could spread the disease, and brush aside information that conflicts with their political views. With partygoers packing Florida bars and holiday travelers filling hotels and guest rooms, the state faces a few difficult months before the possible relief of vaccines.
These findings are based on interviews with more than 50 people, including scientists, doctors, political leaders, employees of the state health department, and other state officials, as well as more than 4,000 pages of documents.


crooksandliars--2020-12-07--Former Trump Toady Dr. Birx Now Upset She Has To Debunk COVID Conspiracies

On Sunday 's Meet the Press , Dr. Birx , the White House Coronavirus Response Coordinator voiced her frustration that she has to spend her time debunking coronavirus conspiracy theories and myths .
For months on end , Dr. Birx appeased and ignored Trump 's wild claims about the coronavirus , including the former so-called president telling people to drink bleach .
As COVID-19 spreads mercilessly throughout the country , host Chuck Todd told Birx that the president and others in his administration just flout CDC guidelines every chance they get .
Chuck Todd asked Birx whether she understood that @ @ @ @ @ @ @ they think it 's oversold .
Dr. Birx responded by saying she 's heard that because she just does n't talk with healthcare providers , governors , and mayors .
“ I hear community members parroting back those situations , parroting back that masks do n't work , parroting back that we should work towards herd immunity , parroting back that gatherings do n't result in super-spreading events , ” she said .
“ And I think our job is to constantly say those are myths .
They are wrong , and you @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Birx explained that we have mayors and governors in the Sunbelt that have cases rising past the levels they were in the summer but are n't instituting safe regulations that they know changed the course of this pandemic before .
She reiterated that it is frustrating because these leading politicians know what works and now are refusing to turn to them again as we head into the disastrous winter surge .
It seems when Trump hired and promoted Dr. Scott Atlas to a prominent position in the coronavirus task force that proved to @ @ @ @ @ @ @ .
So much lost time for Americans when dealing with grade school idiots leading the country during a pandemic .
Maybe if she 'd taken a stand in the beginning it would n't be so very hard for her now .

On Sunday's Meet the Press, Dr. Birx, the White House Coronavirus Response Coordinator voiced her frustration that she has to spend her time debunking coronavirus conspiracy theories and myths.
For months on end, Dr. Birx appeased and ignored Trump's wild claims about the coronavirus, including the former so-called president telling people to drink bleach.
As COVID-19 spreads mercilessly throughout the country, host Chuck Todd told Birx that the president and others in his administration just flout CDC guidelines every chance they get.
Chuck Todd asked Birx whether she understood that the public shrugs off the virus because they think it's oversold.
Dr. Birx responded by saying she's heard that because she just doesn't talk with healthcare providers, governors, and mayors.
“I hear community members parroting back those situations, parroting back that masks don't work, parroting back that we should work towards herd immunity, parroting back that gatherings don't result in super-spreading events,” she said.
“And I think our job is to constantly say those are myths. They are wrong, and you can see the evidence base.”
Dr. Birx explained that we have mayors and governors in the Sunbelt that have cases rising past the levels they were in the summer but aren't instituting safe regulations that they know changed the course of this pandemic before.
She reiterated that it is frustrating because these leading politicians know what works and now are refusing to turn to them again as we head into the disastrous winter surge.
It seems when Trump hired and promoted Dr. Scott Atlas to a prominent position in the coronavirus task force that proved to be the breaking point for Dr. Brix.
So much lost time for Americans when dealing with grade school idiots leading the country during a pandemic.
Maybe if she'd taken a stand in the beginning it wouldn't be so very hard for her now.


crooksandliars--2020-12-07--Former Trump Organization VP: 'I Think He May Leave The Country'

At the end of an extended segment yesterday , talking about Trump with two women who know him ( Mary @ @ @ @ @ Barbara Res ) , CNN 's Ana Cabrera brought up a New York Times piece @ @ @ @ @ depressed , and still in denial about the election results .
The article quoted a @ @ @ @ @ “ classic Act V behavior…We ’ re nearing the end of the play and that @ @ @ @ @ comes.
” Res laughed .
“ I say , catastrophe comes except for Donald.
” @ @ @ @ @ ’ s almost impossible to think how he ’ ll weasel his way out of @ @ @ @ @ he will .
If there were legitimate charges leveled against him or hanging over his @ @ @ @ @ a citizen , I think he may leave the country .
I think he may @ @ @ @ @ end of his presidency.
” Which is pretty much how I always saw this playing @ @ @ @ @ think ?

At the end of an extended segment yesterday, talking about Trump with two women who know him (Mary Trump and former Trump VP Barbara Res), CNN's Ana Cabrera brought up a New York Times piece describing Trump as moody and depressed, and still in denial about the election results. The article quoted a Shakespeare expert who called it “classic Act V behavior…We’re nearing the end of the play and that’s where catastrophe always comes.”
Res laughed. “I say, catastrophe comes except for Donald.”
“As much as it’s almost impossible to think how he’ll weasel his way out of it, but I think he will. If there were legitimate charges leveled against him or hanging over his head the minute he becomes a citizen, I think he may leave the country. I think he may leave the country before the end of his presidency.”
Which is pretty much how I always saw this playing out. What do you think?


crooksandliars--2020-12-08--Why Mary Trump Is The Only Good Trump

Why Mary Trump Is The Only Good Trump

President Trump 's niece Mary Trump is the only good Trump family member .
Mary Trump says her uncle is “ criminal , cruel and traitorous ” and belongs in prison after he leaves the White House .
This video explains why Mary believes that the president will inflict an enormous amount of damage to our country before leaving office -- as if he has n't done enough already !
Mary Trump is a clinical psychologist and recently told The View : '' He has serious psychological disorders , which would n't have been of any interest to us if @ @ @ @ @ @ @ did n't have the ability to inflict pain on other people .
The biggest problem for us now is because of those undiagnosed and untreated disorders , and his appalling lack of empathy , people are dying unnecessarily every day .
Children were stripped from their parents and incarcerated for no reason . ''
Mary Trump 's memoir about her family in the summer of 2020 , Too Much and Never Enough : How My Family Created the World 's Most Dangerous Man sold over 1.35 million copies in the first week of @ @ @ @ @ @ @ write a second book that focuses on America 's healing after her uncle 's presidency .

President Trump's niece Mary Trump is the only good Trump family member.
Mary Trump says her uncle is “criminal, cruel and traitorous” and belongs in prison after he leaves the White House.
This video explains why Mary believes that the president will inflict an enormous amount of damage to our country before leaving office-- as if he hasn't done enough already! Mary Trump is a clinical psychologist and recently told The View:
"He has serious psychological disorders, which wouldn't have been of any interest to us if he had no power and if he didn't have the ability to inflict pain on other people. The biggest problem for us now is because of those undiagnosed and untreated disorders, and his appalling lack of empathy, people are dying unnecessarily every day. Children were stripped from their parents and incarcerated for no reason."
Mary Trump's memoir about her family in the summer of 2020, Too Much and Never Enough: How My Family Created the World's Most Dangerous Man sold over 1.35 million copies in the first week of publication. Mary said she plans to write a second book that focuses on America's healing after her uncle's presidency.


crooksandliars--2020-12-09--Texas AG Ken Paxton Sues Four States Because They Voted For Biden

Texas likes to be known for doing everything bigger than the rest of the states , and that seems to apply to its level of stupid .
Their attorney general , Ken Paxton ( not exactly a tower of legal integrity himself ... ) is suing four battleground states Donald Trump needs to overturn the election in his favor .
Yeah , Paxton is suing Wisconsin , Pennsylvania , Georgia , and Michigan for enacting measures to protect its electorate against COVID-19 while voting .
Nicolle Wallace discussed the absurdity of this last ditch effort , which got filed right @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Day — the day Congress must accept the electoral votes submitted by the states — with legal analyst Andrew Weissmann .
Wallace called the lack of facts and evidence backing up Paxton 's claims `` asinine , '' and wondered about sanctions for attorneys and AGs who bring such frivolous suits to the courts at all .
Weissmann , though , found himself in the unfamiliar position of playing optimist .
WEISSMANN : You know , I 'm usually on this show and elsewhere a huge cynic , but I actually think there @ @ @ @ @ @ @ is I think that the courts have handled this admirably .
And you 've seen courts , whether they were appointed by Republicans or Democrats , judges appointed by president Trump rejecting these claims .
So I do n't think that the courts are where we have a problem .
In other words , they have withstood the conspiracy theory onslaught and have been uniformly rejecting any substance of these claims .
But I think the problem is in the populous , is in the electorate , where we have such a huge @ @ @ @ @ @ @ theories , and have themselves such doubt in what are really not controversial facts .
And a lot of people feed on that and foment it and I think that 's the problem .
I think the courts have done as well as can be expected , which is at least some good news .
I mean , it 's scary as hell that so much of the populace buys into this crap , and the question of how long it will take fully half of the nation to have faith in our @ @ @ @ @ @ @ again is depressing as all get out .
Do n't even get me started on what kind of undertaking is needed to deprogram the psyches of these delusional Republican voters who really do believe that Trump won and the GOP is on their side .
That really *IS* the problem , is n't it ?
But I guess we can take solace , like Weissmann says , in the courts holding strong against these suits .
Wallace asked him about the likelihood of Trump 's fever dream of the Supreme Court getting involved @ @ @ @ @ @ @ and again , he reassured .
WEISSMANN : I just ca n't imagine the Supreme Court will enter into this fray with this vehicle .
.
There may be other attorneys general like Paxton who are facing their own legal issues who want to distract from that and show their loyalty to the president , so you could see people trying to do , for instance , what Ted Cruz does , and get their 15 minutes of fame .
But I really do n't think this has any merit .
And even @ @ @ @ @ @ @ are political , I really think this is just going too far .
And , as if on cue , the Supreme Court 's Justice Alito — ALITO !
!
!
— denied Pennsylvania GOP Congressman Mike Kelly 's request to overturn Joe Biden 's win there , with zero dissents .
Zero .
Texas ' AG Paxton must be sweating in places I care not to imagine right now .

Texas likes to be known for doing everything bigger than the rest of the states, and that seems to apply to its level of stupid. Their attorney general, Ken Paxton (not exactly a tower of legal integrity himself...) is suing four battleground states Donald Trump needs to overturn the election in his favor.
Yeah, Paxton is suing Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Michigan for enacting measures to protect its electorate against COVID-19 while voting.
In the suit, he claims that pandemic-era changes to election procedures in those states violated federal law, and asks the U.S. Supreme Court to block the states from voting in the Electoral College.
Nicolle Wallace discussed the absurdity of this last ditch effort, which got filed right before the deadline of December 8th/Safe Harbor Day — the day Congress must accept the electoral votes submitted by the states — with legal analyst Andrew Weissmann. Wallace called the lack of facts and evidence backing up Paxton's claims "asinine," and wondered about sanctions for attorneys and AGs who bring such frivolous suits to the courts at all. Weissmann, though, found himself in the unfamiliar position of playing optimist.
Sort of.
WEISSMANN: You know, I'm usually on this show and elsewhere a huge cynic, but I actually think there is some good news here, which is I think that the courts have handled this admirably. And you've seen courts, whether they were appointed by Republicans or Democrats, judges appointed by president Trump rejecting these claims. So I don't think that the courts are where we have a problem. In other words, they have withstood the conspiracy theory onslaught and have been uniformly rejecting any substance of these claims. But I think the problem is in the populous, is in the electorate, where we have such a huge percentage of people who believe in conspiracy theories, and have themselves such doubt in what are really not controversial facts. And a lot of people feed on that and foment it and I think that's the problem. I think the courts have done as well as can be expected, which is at least some good news.
I mean, it's scary as hell that so much of the populace buys into this crap, and the question of how long it will take fully half of the nation to have faith in our elections (they might lose) once again is depressing as all get out. Don't even get me started on what kind of undertaking is needed to deprogram the psyches of these delusional Republican voters who really do believe that Trump won and the GOP is on their side. That really *IS* the problem, isn't it?
But I guess we can take solace, like Weissmann says, in the courts holding strong against these suits. Wallace asked him about the likelihood of Trump's fever dream of the Supreme Court getting involved to make him King coming true, and again, he reassured.
WEISSMANN: I just can't imagine the Supreme Court will enter into this fray with this vehicle. . There may be other attorneys general like Paxton who are facing their own legal issues who want to distract from that and show their loyalty to the president, so you could see people trying to do, for instance, what Ted Cruz does, and get their 15 minutes of fame. But I really don't think this has any merit. And even for people who think that the courts are political, I really think this is just going too far.
And, as if on cue, the Supreme Court's Justice Alito — ALITO!!! — denied Pennsylvania GOP Congressman Mike Kelly's request to overturn Joe Biden's win there, with zero dissents. Zero.
Texas' AG Paxton must be sweating in places I care not to imagine right now.


crooksandliars--2020-12-08--Over 1500 Attorneys Call For Sanction Of Trump Legal Team

As President Donald Trump continues what critics have called a `` narcissistic crusade '' contesting his loss of the November election with lies and baseless lawsuits about election fraud and security , by Monday more than 1,500 attorneys across the country had signed on to a call for bar associations to condemn and investigate his campaign 's lawyers .
Although even some Trump allies like U.S. Attorney General William Barr have admitted there is no evidence of mass voter fraud that led to President-elect Joe Biden 's victory last month , the president 's attorneys have continued to pursue suits @ @ @ @ @ @ @ in bad faith that state and local officials are beginning to call for judges to sanction Trump campaign and Republican lawyers , '' as Vox noted Saturday .
Those calls are coupled with the Lawyers Defending American Democracy ( LDAD ) open letter , which has now been signed by hundreds of attorneys—among them , former American Bar Association ( ABA ) and state bar presidents , retired federal judges and state Supreme Court justices , and former leaders of lawyer disciplinary bodies .
`` More than 35 losses in election-related cases have @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Trump 's barrage of litigation is a pretext for a campaign to undermine public confidence in the outcome of the 2020 election , which inevitably will subvert constitutional democracy , '' the letter says .
`` Sadly , the president 's primary agents and enablers in this effort are lawyers , obligated by their oath and ethical rules to uphold the rule of law . ''
In a statement Monday , Stephen Gillers , professor of legal ethics at New York University 's School of Law and a signatory to the letter , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Trump would attack the courts and other public institutions to sow distrust in the election results . ''
`` Sadly , some lawyers are abusing their law licenses and positions as officers of the court to aid him , '' Gillers added .
`` 'President 's Lawyers Trash American Democracy ' is a headline we never expected to see .
To mitigate the harm such tactics can inflict , the bar must forcefully repudiate their behavior . ''
Urging bar associations to condemn and investigate `` this abuse '' of U.S. law and @ @ @ @ @ @ @ 's lawyers by name : The letter details their three-pronged strategy—make baseless press statements about fraud ; replace fraud assertions with speculative claims in court ; then return to echoing Trump by making fraud and conspiracy claims to the press—and highlights some their recent remarks .
It also notes that federal judges appointed by various presidents , including Trump , `` have rejected the Trump legal teams ' factual assertions and legal claims , more than one in scathing terms . ''
As Cheryl Niro , former president of the Illinois State Bar @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , put it : `` The facts are clear : the election was secure and the results have been consistently confirmed .
Giuliani and certain Trump campaign lawyers have either been lying to the public or believe frivolous and unfounded claims , calling into question their fitness to practice law . ''
`` The conduct of Mr. Giuliani and his colleagues is a disgrace , '' the letter declares .
`` We condemn this conduct without reservation .
It demeans the legal profession and the multitudes of lawyers of all political persuasions who @ @ @ @ @ @ @ honorably .
Our profession needs to affirm that this behavior grossly deviates from the bar 's deep commitment to democratic institutions and the fact-based processes that maintain our democracy 's vitality . ''
Marna S. Tucker , a past president of the D.C. Bar and a signatory to the letter , also warned Monday of the consequences if Trump 's attorneys are allowed to continue their behavior .
`` The legal profession enjoys the privilege of self-regulation , '' Tucker said .
`` That privilege demands that we assure the public that lawyers @ @ @ @ @ @ @ be disciplined by appropriate disciplinary authorities .
If the public does not see us discipline our own for their misconduct , that privilege is imperiled . ''
Echoing the letter 's conclusion , Laurel G. Bellows , another signatory and former head of both the American Bar Association and the Chicago Bar Association , urged other attorneys to support the joint demand for accountability .
`` Our justice system only works when lawyers tell the truth and adhere to their oath , '' Bellows explained .
`` Every attorney , including the organized @ @ @ @ @ @ @ lawyers who trample the truth and undermine democracy through their false statements . ''
The figures for the LDAD letter were announced after news broke over the weekend that Giuliani , the former mayor of New York City , had tested positive for Covid-19 .
Trump tweeted Saturday that Giuliani , `` by far the greatest mayor in the history of NYC , and who has been working tirelessly exposing the most corrupt election ( by far ! )
in the history of the USA , has tested positive for the China Virus @ @ @ @ @ @ @ will carry on !
!
! ''
The Associated Press reported that the 76-year-old `` was exhibiting some symptoms and was admitted Sunday to Georgetown University Medical Center in Washington . ''
Last week , in addition to visiting Georgia and Michigan , Giuliani went to Arizona and met with multiple state lawmakers .
After his diagnosis was made public , the Arizona legislature closed both chambers this week `` out of an abundance of caution for recent cases and concerns relating to Covid-19 , '' according to an email to state House @ @ @ @ @ @ @ which noted that `` no one will have permission to work or meet in the building . ''
In a statement Sunday , Trump 's legal team said that `` Mayor Giuliani tested negative twice immediately preceding his trip to Arizona , Michigan , and Georgia .
The Mayor did not experience any symptoms or test positive for Covid-19 until more than 48 hours after his return .
Citing current guidelines from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention , the statement added that `` no legislators in any state or members of @ @ @ @ @ @ @ list . ''

As President Donald Trump continues what critics have called a "narcissistic crusade" contesting his loss of the November election with lies and baseless lawsuits about election fraud and security, by Monday more than 1,500 attorneys across the country had signed on to a call for bar associations to condemn and investigate his campaign's lawyers.
Although even some Trump allies like U.S. Attorney General William Barr have admitted there is no evidence of mass voter fraud that led to President-elect Joe Biden's victory last month, the president's attorneys have continued to pursue suits that "have become so transparently filed in bad faith that state and local officials are beginning to call for judges to sanction Trump campaign and Republican lawyers," as Vox noted Saturday.
Those calls are coupled with the Lawyers Defending American Democracy (LDAD) open letter, which has now been signed by hundreds of attorneys—among them, former American Bar Association (ABA) and state bar presidents, retired federal judges and state Supreme Court justices, and former leaders of lawyer disciplinary bodies.
"More than 35 losses in election-related cases have made one thing painfully clear: President Trump's barrage of litigation is a pretext for a campaign to undermine public confidence in the outcome of the 2020 election, which inevitably will subvert constitutional democracy," the letter says. "Sadly, the president's primary agents and enablers in this effort are lawyers, obligated by their oath and ethical rules to uphold the rule of law."
If anyone is wondering why the Trump team keeps filing lawsuits even though it keeps losing badly, this is why https://t.co/r1iwrSpqpA — Citizens for Ethics (@CREWcrew) December 4, 2020
In a statement Monday, Stephen Gillers, professor of legal ethics at New York University's School of Law and a signatory to the letter, said that "it was predictable that Trump would attack the courts and other public institutions to sow distrust in the election results."
"Sadly, some lawyers are abusing their law licenses and positions as officers of the court to aid him," Gillers added. "'President's Lawyers Trash American Democracy' is a headline we never expected to see. To mitigate the harm such tactics can inflict, the bar must forcefully repudiate their behavior."
Urging bar associations to condemn and investigate "this abuse" of U.S. law and democracy, the letter calls out Trump's lawyers by name:
The president put Rudolph Giuliani in charge of the Trump legal team. Notwithstanding their monumental string of losses, Giuliani, Jenna Ellis, Joseph DiGenova, Victoria Toensing and, until November 23, Sidney Powell, have persisted with press statements, purported "hearings," and continuing litigation. Behind the fog created by this waste and distraction of the country's attention is a president's and his lawyers' historic abuse of the judicial process.
The letter details their three-pronged strategy—make baseless press statements about fraud; replace fraud assertions with speculative claims in court; then return to echoing Trump by making fraud and conspiracy claims to the press—and highlights some their recent remarks. It also notes that federal judges appointed by various presidents, including Trump, "have rejected the Trump legal teams' factual assertions and legal claims, more than one in scathing terms."
The court losses keep piling up for Trump & his allies: in the span of 2 hours this afternoon/evening, courts in Minnesota, Nevada, Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia & Arizona denied GOP lawsuits to block certification of election results — Ari Berman (@AriBerman) December 4, 2020
As Cheryl Niro, former president of the Illinois State Bar and a steering committee member of LDAD, put it: "The facts are clear: the election was secure and the results have been consistently confirmed. Giuliani and certain Trump campaign lawyers have either been lying to the public or believe frivolous and unfounded claims, calling into question their fitness to practice law."
"The conduct of Mr. Giuliani and his colleagues is a disgrace," the letter declares. "We condemn this conduct without reservation. It demeans the legal profession and the multitudes of lawyers of all political persuasions who daily serve their clients and the public honorably. Our profession needs to affirm that this behavior grossly deviates from the bar's deep commitment to democratic institutions and the fact-based processes that maintain our democracy's vitality."
Marna S. Tucker, a past president of the D.C. Bar and a signatory to the letter, also warned Monday of the consequences if Trump's attorneys are allowed to continue their behavior.
"The legal profession enjoys the privilege of self-regulation," Tucker said. "That privilege demands that we assure the public that lawyers who press unfounded election fraud claims will be disciplined by appropriate disciplinary authorities. If the public does not see us discipline our own for their misconduct, that privilege is imperiled."
Echoing the letter's conclusion, Laurel G. Bellows, another signatory and former head of both the American Bar Association and the Chicago Bar Association, urged other attorneys to support the joint demand for accountability.
"Our justice system only works when lawyers tell the truth and adhere to their oath," Bellows explained. "Every attorney, including the organized bar and disciplinary authorities, should disavow lawyers who trample the truth and undermine democracy through their false statements."
The figures for the LDAD letter were announced after news broke over the weekend that Giuliani, the former mayor of New York City, had tested positive for Covid-19.
Trump tweeted Saturday that Giuliani, "by far the greatest mayor in the history of NYC, and who has been working tirelessly exposing the most corrupt election (by far!) in the history of the USA, has tested positive for the China Virus. Get better soon Rudy, we will carry on!!!"
The Associated Press reported that the 76-year-old "was exhibiting some symptoms and was admitted Sunday to Georgetown University Medical Center in Washington."
Last week, in addition to visiting Georgia and Michigan, Giuliani went to Arizona and met with multiple state lawmakers. After his diagnosis was made public, the Arizona legislature closed both chambers this week "out of an abundance of caution for recent cases and concerns relating to Covid-19," according to an email to state House members obtained by the Washington Post, which noted that "no one will have permission to work or meet in the building."
Arizona legislature closes after Giuliani spent two days with maskless GOP lawmakers https://t.co/DY6Cwmos6C — Catherine Rampell (@crampell) December 7, 2020
In a statement Sunday, Trump's legal team said that "Mayor Giuliani tested negative twice immediately preceding his trip to Arizona, Michigan, and Georgia. The Mayor did not experience any symptoms or test positive for Covid-19 until more than 48 hours after his return.
Citing current guidelines from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the statement added that "no legislators in any state or members of the press are on the contact tracing list."
Republished from Common Dreams (Jessica Corbett, staff writer) under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 License.


crooksandliars--2020-12-08--GOPer Spews Election Lies In Bonkers House Speech

Rep. Mo Brooks ( R-AL ) on Tuesday unleashed a torrent of lies about the election in a speech on the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives .
“ Congress is the judge , jury and final arbiter of the 2020 presidential election contest , ” Brooks announced .
“ Further , America ’ s election system in plagued by systemic flaws that promote voter fraud and election theft.
” Brooks argued that Congress had only authorized a “ 24 hour window ” for voting and that most early and absentee votes are “ illegal.
” “ Vote buying @ @ @ @ @ @ @ when citizens vote by mail , ” he complained .
“ In contrast , socialist Democrats used bureaucratic allies or engaged in rigged lawsuits involving conspiratorial parties and inattentive judges to obtain sham settlement agreements that blatantly violate the Constitution and federal law to promote voter fraud and election theft with the singular goal of stealing the United States presidency.
” “ All en masse mail schemes promote voter fraud and elections schemes and are illegal !
” Brooks insisted .
“ As such , all votes cast pursuant to these vote-by-mail schemes @ @ @ @ @ @ @ be counted.
” The Alabama lawmaker falsely called the evidence of election theft “ overwhelming.
” “ If only lawful votes cast by eligible American citizens are counted , President Trump won the Electoral College and a second term as president , ” Brooks opined .
“ Congress can either support illegal voting , voter fraud and election theft or not.
” Brooks went on to say that he would vote to reject Electoral College votes “ from all states whose election systems are so badly flawed as to render their votes unreliable @ @ @ @ @ @ @ “ That is exactly what I intend to do , ” he concluded .
There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud , election fraud or election theft .
The Department of Homeland Security has said that the 2020 election was the most secure in the nation ’ s history .

Rep. Mo Brooks (R-AL) on Tuesday unleashed a torrent of lies about the election in a speech on the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives.
“Congress is the judge, jury and final arbiter of the 2020 presidential election contest,” Brooks announced. “Further, America’s election system in plagued by systemic flaws that promote voter fraud and election theft.”
Brooks argued that Congress had only authorized a “24 hour window” for voting and that most early and absentee votes are “illegal.”
“Vote buying schemes are far more difficult to detect when citizens vote by mail,” he complained. “In contrast, socialist Democrats used bureaucratic allies or engaged in rigged lawsuits involving conspiratorial parties and inattentive judges to obtain sham settlement agreements that blatantly violate the Constitution and federal law to promote voter fraud and election theft with the singular goal of stealing the United States presidency.”
“All en masse mail schemes promote voter fraud and elections schemes and are illegal!” Brooks insisted. “As such, all votes cast pursuant to these vote-by-mail schemes are illegal, void and should not be counted.”
The Alabama lawmaker falsely called the evidence of election theft “overwhelming.”
“If only lawful votes cast by eligible American citizens are counted, President Trump won the Electoral College and a second term as president,” Brooks opined. “Congress can either support illegal voting, voter fraud and election theft or not.”
Brooks went on to say that he would vote to reject Electoral College votes “from all states whose election systems are so badly flawed as to render their votes unreliable, untrustworthy and unworthy or acceptance.”
“That is exactly what I intend to do,” he concluded.
There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud, election fraud or election theft. The Department of Homeland Security has said that the 2020 election was the most secure in the nation’s history.


crooksandliars--2020-12-08--Jenna Ellis Has COVID: Axios Report

Jenna Ellis Has COVID: Axios Report

Axios is reporting that Jenna Ellis , one of Trump 's main players on the legal `` team '' attempting to overthrow the 2020 election , has COVID , but still attended a White House party on Friday .
• Three senior White House officials told Axios they had been informed of Ellis ' diagnosis .
• I followed up by asking Ellis repeatedly whether she wanted to deny our reporting that she has COVID and had informed the White House of this fact .
Ellis did not reply .
• Navarro did not respond to a request for comment @ @ @ @ @ @ @ a sh*t about anyone 's health , not even her own .
It 's not a shock that Jenna Ellis has been diagnosed with COVID so soon after Rudy Giuliani admitted he was infected with the coronavirus .
What 's awful is that she and Rudy were engaging with federal , state , and local officials and not wearing masks .
Whether they knew they were infected or not , it 's clear their behavior infected others .
They should be held accountable .
In an interview on FOX Business , Ellis dropped @ @ @ @ @ @ @ and said she was `` doing the right thing for God . ''

Axios is reporting that Jenna Ellis, one of Trump's main players on the legal "team" attempting to overthrow the 2020 election, has COVID, but still attended a White House party on Friday.
Three senior White House officials told Axios they had been informed of Ellis' diagnosis.
I followed up by asking Ellis repeatedly whether she wanted to deny our reporting that she has COVID and had informed the White House of this fact. Ellis did not reply.
Navarro did not respond to a request for comment.
Talk about hubris and not giving a sh*t about anyone's health, not even her own.
It's not a shock that Jenna Ellis has been diagnosed with COVID so soon after Rudy Giuliani admitted he was infected with the coronavirus.
What's awful is that she and Rudy were engaging with federal, state, and local officials and not wearing masks. Whether they knew they were infected or not, it's clear their behavior infected others.
They should be held accountable.
In an interview on FOX Business, Ellis dropped the Jesus card like Pat Robertson did and said she was "doing the right thing for God."
I guess God paid her back in full.
Thoughts and prayers.


crooksandliars--2020-12-08--Kayleigh McEnany Says Georgia Gov. Kemp 'Is The Same As Stacey Abrams'

The White House press secretary is so angry at the Governor of Georgia , that she told Sean Hannity last night he 's just a clone of Democratic voting rights activist Stacey Abrams .
Any Republican who refuses to bow to Trump 's sedition is now a Democratic deep state conspirator grown from a pod against the so-called president , and is `` despicable . ''
As the two were spewing nonsense about the way Georgia is counting votes ( for the THIRD TIME ) , Hannity said , `` You ca n't have drop boxes that are not monitored @ @ @ @ @ @ @ `` Governor Kemp is no different than Stacey Abrams right now , '' McEnany said .
( One of the conspiracy theories Kayleigh was promoting was a `` consent decree '' that has already been debunked . ''
She continued , `` Gov .
Kemp is Stacy Abrams and that is despicable . ''
The Trump team constantly comes up with new conspiracy theories to try and overturn the will of the voters .
Trump 's legal team has been repeatedly destroyed in the courts because they are all whine with no cheese @ @ @ @ @ @ @ every single vote using a magnifying glass -- means it 's not a valid vote .
Talk about the cancel culture !
Start with Donald Trump : anyone who disagrees with him being president for life despite the vote count , no matter if they were a loyalist and part of the Republican Party , immediately becomes excommunicated and trashed .
With a critical election IN GEORGIA in mere weeks that will determine the leadership in the Senate , it 's clear Trump 's press secretary does n't care if Republican voters turn @ @ @ @

The White House press secretary is so angry at the Governor of Georgia, that she told Sean Hannity last night he's just a clone of Democratic voting rights activist Stacey Abrams.
Um...
Any Republican who refuses to bow to Trump's sedition is now a Democratic deep state conspirator grown from a pod against the so-called president, and is "despicable."
As the two were spewing nonsense about the way Georgia is counting votes (for the THIRD TIME), Hannity said, "You can't have drop boxes that are not monitored, that's insane too."
"Governor Kemp is no different than Stacey Abrams right now," McEnany said.
And I say Kayleigh McEnany is no different than Tokyo Rose. — RollWithIt (@jbrdtrd) December 8, 2020
(One of the conspiracy theories Kayleigh was promoting was a "consent decree" that has already been debunked."
She continued, "Gov. Kemp is Stacy Abrams and that is despicable."
The Trump team constantly comes up with new conspiracy theories to try and overturn the will of the voters. Trump's legal team has been repeatedly destroyed in the courts because they are all whine with no cheese.
Somehow not letting Trump supporters verify every single vote using a magnifying glass -- means it's not a valid vote.
Talk about the cancel culture! Start with Donald Trump: anyone who disagrees with him being president for life despite the vote count, no matter if they were a loyalist and part of the Republican Party, immediately becomes excommunicated and trashed.
With a critical election IN GEORGIA in mere weeks that will determine the leadership in the Senate, it's clear Trump's press secretary doesn't care if Republican voters turn out or not.


crooksandliars--2020-12-08--It's Just Lou Dobbs And Stephen Miller Screaming At Each Other For Two Minutes

I have mentioned before that the Lou Dobbs show exists to make sure Fox Business viewers do n't abandon the @ @ @ @ @ 's not working all that well , as you can tell from the clip above @ @ @ @ @ BEGIN to transcribe this screaming , overtalking , performance art by Dobbs and Trump 's @ @ @ @ @ .
They just kept screaming that Republicans are to blame for disloyalty to Dear Leader @ @ @ @ @ just voted in a month ago is n't the point .
Keeping Donald Trump in @ @ @ @ @ is ALL THAT MATTERS !
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My colleague Karoli Kuns said it best : @ @ @ @ @ the words but it all felt performative to me .
Like neither actually believed a @ @ @ @ @ . ''
The Democratic Party 's extremely successful ( over 42 wins and not tired @ @ @ @ @ it thoroughly : Perhaps they were possessed by the spirit of Anchorman 's Brick Tamland @

I have mentioned before that the Lou Dobbs show exists to make sure Fox Business viewers don't abandon the network for OANN. It's not working all that well, as you can tell from the clip above.
I wouldn't even BEGIN to transcribe this screaming, overtalking, performance art by Dobbs and Trump's pocket Nazi, Stephen Miller. They just kept screaming that Republicans are to blame for disloyalty to Dear Leader and the election we all just voted in a month ago isn't the point. Keeping Donald Trump in office for four more years is ALL THAT MATTERS!!!
My colleague Karoli Kuns said it best: "They’re saying the words but it all felt performative to me. Like neither actually believed a damn thing they were saying."
The Democratic Party's extremely successful (over 42 wins and not tired yet!) lawyer enjoyed it thoroughly:
I've decided to turn down the money and keep my soul.
But find out what Lou Dobbs thinks is worth $500 million. Sign up for my free email/newsletter. https://t.co/e8bnQnc6zr https://t.co/yAWjllJFrv — Marc E. Elias (@marceelias) December 8, 2020
Perhaps they were possessed by the spirit of Anchorman's Brick Tamland.


crooksandliars--2020-12-08--Contact Tracing? Rudy Takes Group Photos At GOP Election 'Fraud" Hearings

You ca n't make this sh*t up .
On Monday night , Rachel Maddow reported that after each of his fake `` hearings '' with Republican legislators herding `` witnesses '' of `` election fraud '' before cameras ... ... Rudy Giuliani smooshes those Republicans in attendance together for a big group photo !
Way to make the contact tracing easier , America 's Mayor !
RACHEL MADDOW : Georgia and Michigan , as well as Arizona , all had to call off or cancel legislative functions this week because Rudy Giuliani did show up for all these events , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ three states , and he showed up at all of them with no mask on , and now Mr. Giuliani has tested positive for coronavirus and has been hospitalized in DC .
Depending on when exactly Mr. Giuliani became infected and when exactly he became infectious , it 's possible that he could have infected just innumerable people on this tour that he 's been on over the past week .
State legislators , witnesses , reporters , security officers , anybody around him , he apparently never wears a mask .
He @ @ @ @ @ @ @ of these long , indoor talky-talky events , all of these selfies .
He apparently loves big group photos at these hearings where he 's trying to get Republicans and various state legislatures to overthrow the election results in their states .
He loves at the end of all these hearings , always make sure everybody crowds in for a big group picture , masks off , big smiles .

You can't make this sh*t up.
On Monday night, Rachel Maddow reported that after each of his fake "hearings" with Republican legislators herding "witnesses" of "election fraud" before cameras...
...Rudy Giuliani smooshes those Republicans in attendance together for a big group photo!
Way to make the contact tracing easier, America's Mayor!
RACHEL MADDOW: Georgia and Michigan, as well as Arizona, all had to call off or cancel legislative functions this week because Rudy Giuliani did show up for all these events, all these sort of hearings in all three states, and he showed up at all of them with no mask on, and now Mr. Giuliani has tested positive for coronavirus and has been hospitalized in DC. Depending on when exactly Mr. Giuliani became infected and when exactly he became infectious, it's possible that he could have infected just innumerable people on this tour that he's been on over the past week. State legislators, witnesses, reporters, security officers, anybody around him, he apparently never wears a mask. He did all of that travel, all of these long, indoor talky-talky events, all of these selfies. He apparently loves big group photos at these hearings where he's trying to get Republicans and various state legislatures to overthrow the election results in their states. He loves at the end of all these hearings, always make sure everybody crowds in for a big group picture, masks off, big smiles. He's got covid!


crooksandliars--2020-12-08--Ron Johnson Beclowns His Committee For Trump, Hosting Anti-Vax 'Doctor'

It 's well known history that Wisconsin Dumb Senator , Ron Johnson , habitually uses his investigative committee for political purposes , such as multiple investigations in BENGHAZI !
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, Hillary Clinton 's emails and Hunter Biden being some of the most outstanding examples .
But on Tuesday , he leads his committee into a whole new farcical pursuit to disprove science and promote right wing quackery with `` an investigation '' into the COVID-19 vaccine versus the wackadoodle ideas promoted by Trump and his syndicate .
Witnesses include a rabid anti-vaxxer and all the other quacks , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ From the New York Times : In an interview on Monday , he said that while he supported widespread vaccination and masking , he believed that many of his colleagues had been too deferential to a public health establishment that , because of its obsession with finding a vaccine and lack of experience treating coronavirus patients , had undermined , neglected and even “ censored ” other potential treatments that he believes could help .
“ We have grossly overreacted to this , ” Mr. Johnson said of the virus .
“ We @ @ @ @ @ @ @ have isolated the sick , protected the vulnerable and then the rest of us carry on with our lives as safely as possible.
” Mr. Johnson ’ s lead witness on Tuesday , Dr. Jane M. Orient , has cast doubts on coronavirus vaccines and has pushed for the use of hydroxychloroquine , an antimalarial drug pushed by Mr. Trump , as a treatment .
She helps run a group that believes government vaccine mandates violate human rights .
Another , the Washington cardiologist Ramin Oskoui , said on Fox News last month @ @ @ @ @ @ @ that “ social distancing doesn ’ t work , quarantining doesn ’ t work , masks don ’ t work.
” On the contrary , it is settled science that all three are effective in limiting the spread of the virus .
It is such foolishness that the Democrats are considering a boycott and several Republicans are going to be conveniently absent so as not even give anyone that the perception that they support RoJo 's tomfoolery .
The part that will leave the gentle reader both flabbergasted and gobsmacked is n't that @ @ @ @ @ @ @ the first place or all the BS artists that he 's called in .
The real kicker is that RoJo , of all people , ought to know better .
RoJo , who almost never wears a mask , was exposed in mid-September to someone who was thought to have the virus .
He claims that he tested twice during those two weeks and both tests were negative and he went back to Washington at the end of the month .
Just days later , he was again exposed to someone that had @ @ @ @ @ @ @ tested again and this time he tested positive for the virus .
Fortunately for him , it appears to have been an extremely mild case .
As a preview to his selfishness and idiocy towards the virus , RoJo knowing that he had been exposed but before the test results came back , attending a fundraiser .
God only knows how many people he might have infected that night .
Despite all of that , and flying in the face of his claim that he supports wearing a face mask , RoJo said @ @ @ @ @ @ @ making face masks mandatory .
He also minimized the fact that he exposed numerous people needlessly : The only bright sides to all this is that he has only two more years in office before voters have the chance to finally oust him from office .
A popular Democratic candidate , Tom Reynolds , has already announced that he will challenge RoJo .
Hopefully , RoJo wo n't be as much of a ratfucker for those two years , once Trump is dragged out , kicking and screaming , from the White House @ @ @ @ @ @ @ cell .

It's well known history that Wisconsin Dumb Senator, Ron Johnson, habitually uses his investigative committee for political purposes, such as multiple investigations in BENGHAZI!!!, Hillary Clinton's emails and Hunter Biden being some of the most outstanding examples.
But on Tuesday, he leads his committee into a whole new farcical pursuit to disprove science and promote right wing quackery with "an investigation" into the COVID-19 vaccine versus the wackadoodle ideas promoted by Trump and his syndicate. Witnesses include a rabid anti-vaxxer and all the other quacks, conspiracists and crackpots he could find.
From the New York Times:
In an interview on Monday, he said that while he supported widespread vaccination and masking, he believed that many of his colleagues had been too deferential to a public health establishment that, because of its obsession with finding a vaccine and lack of experience treating coronavirus patients, had undermined, neglected and even “censored” other potential treatments that he believes could help. “We have grossly overreacted to this,” Mr. Johnson said of the virus. “We have not been smart. We should have isolated the sick, protected the vulnerable and then the rest of us carry on with our lives as safely as possible.” Mr. Johnson’s lead witness on Tuesday, Dr. Jane M. Orient, has cast doubts on coronavirus vaccines and has pushed for the use of hydroxychloroquine, an antimalarial drug pushed by Mr. Trump, as a treatment. She helps run a group that believes government vaccine mandates violate human rights. Another, the Washington cardiologist Ramin Oskoui, said on Fox News last month that it was “settled science” that “social distancing doesn’t work, quarantining doesn’t work, masks don’t work.” On the contrary, it is settled science that all three are effective in limiting the spread of the virus.
It is such foolishness that the Democrats are considering a boycott and several Republicans are going to be conveniently absent so as not even give anyone that the perception that they support RoJo's tomfoolery.
The part that will leave the gentle reader both flabbergasted and gobsmacked isn't that RoJo is even holding this hearing in the first place or all the BS artists that he's called in. The real kicker is that RoJo, of all people, ought to know better.
RoJo, who almost never wears a mask, was exposed in mid-September to someone who was thought to have the virus. He claims that he tested twice during those two weeks and both tests were negative and he went back to Washington at the end of the month.
Just days later, he was again exposed to someone that had tested positive for COVID-19. RoJo got tested again and this time he tested positive for the virus. Fortunately for him, it appears to have been an extremely mild case.
As a preview to his selfishness and idiocy towards the virus, RoJo knowing that he had been exposed but before the test results came back, attending a fundraiser. God only knows how many people he might have infected that night.
Despite all of that, and flying in the face of his claim that he supports wearing a face mask, RoJo said that he was still dead set against making face masks mandatory. He also minimized the fact that he exposed numerous people needlessly:
Asked whether he was told to self-quarantine after getting tested and while awaiting results, Johnson said there was “no reason to do so.” “I’m not sick,” he said. “I have no symptoms. I certainly didn’t anticipate testing positive, so there was no reason to quarantine.”
The only bright sides to all this is that he has only two more years in office before voters have the chance to finally oust him from office. A popular Democratic candidate, Tom Reynolds, has already announced that he will challenge RoJo.
Hopefully, RoJo won't be as much of a ratfucker for those two years, once Trump is dragged out, kicking and screaming, from the White House and hopefully led straight to a jail cell.


crooksandliars--2020-12-08--Arizona Republican Party Asks Supporters To Die For Trump's Election War

The extremist party gets even more extreme , promoting a Trump zealot 's declaration that he 'd be willing to die for Trump 's attack on American democracy .
On Tuesday , the Arizona Republican Party went there when they retweeted “ Stop the Steal ” advocate Ali Akbar for saying “ I am willing to give my life for this fight.
” The Arizona Republican Party has asked supporters if they ’ re ready to fight to the death in support of President Donald Trump ’ s doomed attempts to cling on to the presidency despite last month ’ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Party made the apparent call to arms on its official Twitter account late Monday while quote-tweeting an account with # StopTheSteal in its name—the latest rallying cry of Trump ’ s supporters .
That account wrote : “ I am willing to give my life for this fight.
” In its quote-tweet , the Arizona Republican Party wrote : “ He is .
Are you ?
” The party then tweeted a clip from Rambo with the quote : “ This is what we do , who we are .
Live for nothing @ @ @ @ @ @ @ certified its election results last Monday , awarding the state 's 11 electoral votes to President-elect Joe Biden , who beat Trump by 10,457 votes .
And in a tweet a few hours later , they tweeted a clip of Sylvester Stallone as Rambo with a bunch of mercenaries , with the line `` This is what we do , who we are .
Live for nothing , or die for something . ''
That tweet was later deleted .

The extremist party gets even more extreme, promoting a Trump zealot's declaration that he'd be willing to die for Trump's attack on American democracy. On Tuesday, the Arizona Republican Party went there when they retweeted “Stop the Steal” advocate Ali Akbar for saying “I am willing to give my life for this fight.”
Source: The Daily Beast
The Arizona Republican Party has asked supporters if they’re ready to fight to the death in support of President Donald Trump’s doomed attempts to cling on to the presidency despite last month’s election loss. The state Republican Party made the apparent call to arms on its official Twitter account late Monday while quote-tweeting an account with #StopTheSteal in its name—the latest rallying cry of Trump’s supporters. That account wrote: “I am willing to give my life for this fight.” In its quote-tweet, the Arizona Republican Party wrote: “He is. Are you?” The party then tweeted a clip from Rambo with the quote: “This is what we do, who we are. Live for nothing, or die for something.” Arizona certified its election results last Monday, awarding the state's 11 electoral votes to President-elect Joe Biden, who beat Trump by 10,457 votes.
He is. Are you? https://t.co/OY8qxNMPxm — Arizona Republican Party (@AZGOP) December 8, 2020
And in a tweet a few hours later, they tweeted a clip of Sylvester Stallone as Rambo with a bunch of mercenaries, with the line "This is what we do, who we are. Live for nothing, or die for something." That tweet was later deleted.


crooksandliars--2020-12-08--Rep. Clyburn Says Lindsey Graham 'Needs To Get A Grip' On His Georgia Conspiracy Theories

CNN 's John Berman asked Rep. Jim Clyburn what he thought about Lindsey Graham trying to fan the flames and promoting Trump 's conspiracy theories about the Georgia election .
`` He says , quote , 'There is a civil war brewing in Georgia for no good reason .
It 's not unreasonable to ask a legislature to come back in and order an audit of the signatures in the presidential race to see if the system worked . '
By the way , there 's been a count , an audit , a recount , three times Joe Biden @ @ @ @ @ @ @ but Lindsey Graham says what is unreasonable is to sit on your ass and do nothing when you 've got a chance to save the country , '' Berman said .
`` So Senator Lindsey Graham , your senator , said there is a civil war brewing in the country , promoting what the president is doing .
What 's your message to Lindsey Graham this morning , Congressman ? ''
`` I think he 's lost grip on reality .
Yes , there is a civil war brewing and this is just @ @ @ @ @ @ @ had before and it happens to be brewing in the same part of the country that it broke out before and the result would be the same .
This country is not going to allow this kind of activity to take place .
I think that there are cooler heads are prevailing , '' he said .
`` I thought I knew Lindsey Graham , I must have been mistaken . ''

CNN's John Berman asked Rep. Jim Clyburn what he thought about Lindsey Graham trying to fan the flames and promoting Trump's conspiracy theories about the Georgia election.
"He says, quote, 'There is a civil war brewing in Georgia for no good reason. It's not unreasonable to ask a legislature to come back in and order an audit of the signatures in the presidential race to see if the system worked.' By the way, there's been a count, an audit, a recount, three times Joe Biden has been declared winner of Georgia, but Lindsey Graham says what is unreasonable is to sit on your ass and do nothing when you've got a chance to save the country," Berman said.
"So Senator Lindsey Graham, your senator, said there is a civil war brewing in the country, promoting what the president is doing. What's your message to Lindsey Graham this morning, Congressman?"
"Get a grip. get a grip," Clyburn responded.
"I think he's lost grip on reality. Yes, there is a civil war brewing and this is just as idiosynchratic as the civil war we had before and it happens to be brewing in the same part of the country that it broke out before and the result would be the same. This country is not going to allow this kind of activity to take place. I think that there are cooler heads are prevailing," he said.
"I thought I knew Lindsey Graham, I must have been mistaken."


crooksandliars--2020-12-08--Contact Tracing? Rudy Takes Group Photos At GOP Election 'Fraud' Hearings


crooksandliars--2020-12-09--Tapper Slams Trump’s ‘Disgraceful’ Attempts At A ‘Clownish Non-Violent Coup’

Jake Tapper and guests had some choice words for the “ Trump Rigged-Election Caucus ” that keeps signing on to BS efforts to overturn the presidential election results because it ’ s politically expedient .
Tapper and guests Gloria Borger and Nia-Malika Henderson discussed Republican collusion with Donald Trump 's efforts to sabotage our electoral process .
TAPPER : It 's not just the president issuing the threats .
The New York Times asked Kim Ward , the Republican majority leader of the Pennsylvania senate , if she would have signed a letter supporting Trump 's claim that there was @ @ @ @ @ @ @ she told them , `` If I would say to you , oh , I do n't want to do it , I 'd get my house bombed tonight . ''
I mean Gloria , this is where the Republican party is now .
If you cross the president , you actually fear for your life .
BORGER : Well , it 's disgraceful , it 's outrageous , and what you 're seeing is a litmus test that is being established by the president .
It is the Trump -- I call @ @ @ @ @ @ @ ” and these are the people who are going to sign on to that because -- not because they believe it was a rigged election , but because they believe that their political careers would be over , as Nia is saying .
And so if you take a step back and you look at this , the president is clearly losing legally , he 's trying to undermine the Constitution , but politically what he 's doing -- and he may win at it , Jake -- what he 's doing is @ @ @ @ @ @ @ the next war .
And whether that is in undermining every other Republican who does n't agree with him , keeping his base so maybe he can run in 2024 , or if he ca n't be the king , then let him be the king maker .
Because he has to be the center of attention , he has to be all powerful .
So right now , he 's making a list , he 's taking names and he 's checking it twice .
Tapper said he didn ’ t know @ @ @ @ @ @ @ stunt , refusing to rule out challenging the Electoral College results in Congress in January .
Henderson described it as the rankest of rank opportunism .
HENDERSON : Kissing Donald Trump 's ring in a very public way .
It 's the same thing going on in this lawsuit out of Texas .
They want to be on Fox news , they want to be on Rush Limbaugh , and listen , they want to win re-election .
They want to be in good standing with this president , get a phone call @ @ @ @ @ @ @ .
That is what they have been doing for these last many years as Donald Trump has been in office .
I think they initially thought that if they showed loyalty to this president , he would , you know , at some point leave the scene and maybe they could run for president .
That base would then come to them .
That does n't look like it 's happening .
It looks like Donald Trump wants to maintain his power , possibly run for re-election and keep that base for himself @ @ @ @ @ @ @ .
So the calculus here does n't seem like it will work out long term for these folks who feel like they want to inherit Donald Trump 's base and maybe ride it to the White House .
BORGER : By calling these lawmakers , by trying to influence these lawmakers to change the outcome of a free and fair election in their state is illegal .
It 's election tampering .
I do n't care if you 're doing it on a phone from the Oval Office or you 're doing it @ @ @ @ @ @ @ What the president is doing is wrong , and he should be held accountable for it .
Making challenges in court is one thing .
Of course , he is completely allowed to do that if he wants to .
I mean , he does n't have a case anywhere , obviously , but at a certain point , what he is doing is telling elected officials to say the election that got you elected was illegal because it did n't elect me , too .
TAPPER : It is a clownish , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ at a coup , a non-violent coup , but it is absolutely disgraceful .
And that here 's really no other word for it other than that .
With all due respect to Tapper , I think the word “ criminal ” works very well here , too .

Jake Tapper and guests had some choice words for the “Trump Rigged-Election Caucus” that keeps signing on to BS efforts to overturn the presidential election results because it’s politically expedient.
Tapper and guests Gloria Borger and Nia-Malika Henderson discussed Republican collusion with Donald Trump's efforts to sabotage our electoral process.
TAPPER: It's not just the president issuing the threats. The New York Times asked Kim Ward, the Republican majority leader of the Pennsylvania senate, if she would have signed a letter supporting Trump's claim that there was fraud in the election process. And she told them, "If I would say to you,oh, I don't want to do it, I'd get my house bombed tonight." I mean Gloria, this is where the Republican party is now. If you cross the president, you actually fear for your life. BORGER: Well, it's disgraceful, it's outrageous, and what you're seeing is a litmus test that is being established by the president. It is the Trump -- I call it the “Trump Rigged-Election Caucus,” and these are the people who are going to sign on to that because -- not because they believe it was a rigged election, but because they believe that their political careers would be over, as Nia is saying. And so if you take a step back and you look at this, the president is clearly losing legally, he's trying to undermine the Constitution, but politically what he's doing -- and he may win at it, Jake -- what he's doing is trying to gather his troops to fight the next war. And whether that is in undermining every other Republican who doesn't agree with him, keeping his base so maybe he can run in 2024, or if he can't be the king, then let him be the king maker. Because he has to be the center of attention, he has to be all powerful. So right now, he's making a list, he's taking names and he's checking it twice.
Tapper said he didn’t know what to call Johnson’s latest stunt, refusing to rule out challenging the Electoral College results in Congress in January. Henderson described it as the rankest of rank opportunism.
HENDERSON: Kissing Donald Trump's ring in a very public way. It's the same thing going on in this lawsuit out of Texas. They want to be on Fox news, they want to be on Rush Limbaugh, and listen, they want to win re-election. They want to be in good standing with this president, get a phone call from this president, anything like that. That is what they have been doing for these last many years as Donald Trump has been in office. I think they initially thought that if they showed loyalty to this president, he would, you know, at some point leave the scene and maybe they could run for president. That base would then come to them. That doesn't look like it's happening. It looks like Donald Trump wants to maintain his power, possibly run for re-election and keep that base for himself or maybe for one of his children. So the calculus here doesn't seem like it will work out long term for these folks who feel like they want to inherit Donald Trump's base and maybe ride it to the White House.
Borger called Trump’s behavior illegal:
BORGER: By calling these lawmakers, by trying to influence these lawmakers to change the outcome of a free and fair election in their state is illegal. It's election tampering. I don't care if you're doing it on a phone from the Oval Office or you're doing it on a phone from your basement. What the president is doing is wrong, and he should be held accountable for it. Making challenges in court is one thing. Of course, he is completely allowed to do that if he wants to. I mean, he doesn't have a case anywhere, obviously, but at a certain point, what he is doing is telling elected officials to say the election that got you elected was illegal because it didn't elect me, too.
Tapper summed up:
TAPPER: It is a clownish, and it will be a failed attempt at a coup, a non-violent coup, but it is absolutely disgraceful. And that here's really no other word for it other than that.
With all due respect to Tapper, I think the word “criminal” works very well here, too.


crooksandliars--2020-12-09--Idaho Official Torches GOP After Armed Protesters Threaten Her Kids

A county commissioner in Idaho on Wednesday blamed Republican leaders after people opposing COVID-19 safety measures frightened her children .
Ada County Commissioner Diana Lachiondo was forced to abruptly leave a Board of Health meeting on Tuesday because her home had been surrounded .
“ My 12-year-old son is home by himself right now , and there are protesters banging outside the door , ” she told health officials at the time .
Lachiondo suggested in a series of tweets on Wednesday that Republicans had incited the event .
“ And as our federal and state officials have consistently failed @ @ @ @ @ @ @ in this moment of crisis , those responsibilities have fallen on local leaders , health board members , and public health employees , ” she wrote .
“ As they ’ ve accepted that responsibility , stepping up to make tough calls in the interest of public health , they have paid a heavy price .
The scrutiny , intimidation , harassment , and threats have taken a toll on us all , myself included.
” According to Lachiondo , “ armed protestors once again assembled outside my home : yelling , banging @ @ @ @ @ @ @ clips from Scarface , accusing me of tyranny and cowering inside.
” Even though she was not inside of her home at the time , Lachiondo said that her two young sons and mother were at the residence .
“ There is an ugliness and cruelty in our national rhetoric that is reaching a fevered pitch here at home , and that should worry us all .
And , above all , I am terrified about the virus ’ s current trajectory , ” she lamented .
Lachiondo said that she is “ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ public health , who have amplified rhetoric , capitalized on it , tacitly endorsed it while holding hands with the most extreme factions in their party : take a hard look at what you ’ ve become.
” “ It ’ s far past time to do better , ” she insisted .

A county commissioner in Idaho on Wednesday blamed Republican leaders after people opposing COVID-19 safety measures frightened her children.
Ada County Commissioner Diana Lachiondo was forced to abruptly leave a Board of Health meeting on Tuesday because her home had been surrounded.
“My 12-year-old son is home by himself right now, and there are protesters banging outside the door,” she told health officials at the time.
Lachiondo suggested in a series of tweets on Wednesday that Republicans had incited the event.
“And as our federal and state officials have consistently failed to provide the kind of leadership needed in this moment of crisis, those responsibilities have fallen on local leaders, health board members, and public health employees,” she wrote. “As they’ve accepted that responsibility, stepping up to make tough calls in the interest of public health, they have paid a heavy price. The scrutiny, intimidation, harassment, and threats have taken a toll on us all, myself included.”
According to Lachiondo, “armed protestors once again assembled outside my home: yelling, banging, firing air horns, amplifying sound clips from Scarface, accusing me of tyranny and cowering inside.”
Even though she was not inside of her home at the time, Lachiondo said that her two young sons and mother were at the residence.
“There is an ugliness and cruelty in our national rhetoric that is reaching a fevered pitch here at home, and that should worry us all. And, above all, I am terrified about the virus’s current trajectory,” she lamented.
Lachiondo said that she is “calling on Republican leaders who have politicized public health, who have amplified rhetoric, capitalized on it, tacitly endorsed it while holding hands with the most extreme factions in their party: take a hard look at what you’ve become.”
“It’s far past time to do better,” she insisted.
Read Lachiondo’s tweets below.
And as our federal and state officials have consistently failed to provide the kind of leadership needed in this moment of crisis, those responsibilities have fallen on local leaders, health board members, and public health employees. (1/9) — Diana Lachiondo for Ada County (@Lachiondo4Ada) December 9, 2020
As they’ve accepted that responsibility, stepping up to make tough calls in the interest of public health, they have paid a heavy price. The scrutiny, intimidation, harassment, and threats have taken a toll on us all, myself included. — Diana Lachiondo for Ada County (@Lachiondo4Ada) December 9, 2020
During last night’s Board of Health meeting, armed protestors once again assembled outside my home: yelling, banging, firing air horns, amplifying sound clips from Scarface, accusing me of tyranny and cowering inside. — Diana Lachiondo for Ada County (@Lachiondo4Ada) December 9, 2020
I wasn’t actually inside the house: I was calling in from my office at the Ada County Courthouse. But my two young sons and my mother (who was out taking our dog on a short walk) were. And as many of you saw last night, my son called me in tears at the beginning of the meeting. — Diana Lachiondo for Ada County (@Lachiondo4Ada) December 9, 2020
I am sad. I am tired. I fear that, in my choosing to hold public office, my family has too-often paid the price. Though I was born and raised in Idaho, I increasingly don’t recognize this place. — Diana Lachiondo for Ada County (@Lachiondo4Ada) December 9, 2020
There is an ugliness and cruelty in our national rhetoric that is reaching a fevered pitch here at home, and that should worry us all. And, above all, I am terrified about the virus’s current trajectory. — Diana Lachiondo for Ada County (@Lachiondo4Ada) December 9, 2020
This morning, I’m calling on @GovernorLittle to act boldly and with conviction. We cannot patchwork together orders from health districts and cities: 1,000+ Idahoans have lost their lives to this virus and our hospitals are on the brink. Rise to the moment and lead, Governor. — Diana Lachiondo for Ada County (@Lachiondo4Ada) December 9, 2020
I’m calling on Republican leaders who have politicized public health, who have amplified rhetoric, capitalized on it, tacitly endorsed it while holding hands with the most extreme factions in their party: take a hard look at what you’ve become. It’s far past time to do better. — Diana Lachiondo for Ada County (@Lachiondo4Ada) December 9, 2020


crooksandliars--2020-12-09--They Still Think The Election Results Could Be Overturned

This should be the last word -- right ?
The US Supreme Court on Tuesday rejected a last-ditch Republican effort to undo President-elect Joe Biden ’ s win in Pennsylvania .
In a one-line order , the justices denied an attempt by Republican Rep. Mike Kelly and other Republican challengers to press a challenge to a Pennsylvania law that had expanded mail-in voting in the state .
No justice indicated that they had dissented .
`` The application for injunctive relief presented to Justice Alito and by him referred to the Court is denied , '' the order stated .
@ @ @ @ @ @ @ ( i.e.
, the vast majority of Republican voters ) do n't think it 's over : And in fact , a quick visit to Gateway Pundit confirms that this is true : The US Supreme Court denied the application for the injunctive relief presented to Justice Alito and by him referred to the Court is denied .
This was the Sean Parnell and Mike Kelly case .
Expert says SCOTUS rejected the PA case without any explanation because the same stuff is covered in the Texas case which is a bigger case @ @ @ @ @ @ @ WI .
We know what comes next : GOP rank-and-file voters begin harassing and threatening Biden electors .
The electors vote on December 14 in the capitals of the fifty states , assuming no AR-15-wielding mobs prevent them from doing so .
And then ?
Before January 20 , we 'll have serious discussions about this .
We might not believe Trump can do this , but we 'll ponder , in all seriousness , the question of whether Trump might try to do this .
I believe he 'll have his staff @ @ @ @ @ @ @ entire electoral process was fraudulent and he 's the president .
Ron DeSantis , Ted Cruz , Mo Brooks , and Sean Hannity will insist that the executive order has the force of law , wo n't they ?
Or maybe even Trump has limits .
Maybe he 'll recognize the situation as a humiliation and just revert to endless whining rather than futile maneuvering .
We 'll see .
Posted with permission from No More Mr. Nice Blog 17 states have signed on to the baseless lawsuit filed by Texas .
Donald @ @ @ @ @ @ @ of this will matter .
As master election lawyer and democracy defender Marc Elias says , they really ARE a basket of deplorables and little more .
Meanwhile we have the right wingers on media teasing some kind of event which will turn this election to Trump .
All of this is designed to marry the Republican Party to Trump and little more .
In the end they will all need to be obsolete .

This should be the last word -- right?
The US Supreme Court on Tuesday rejected a last-ditch Republican effort to undo President-elect Joe Biden’s win in Pennsylvania. In a one-line order, the justices denied an attempt by Republican Rep. Mike Kelly and other Republican challengers to press a challenge to a Pennsylvania law that had expanded mail-in voting in the state. No justice indicated that they had dissented. "The application for injunctive relief presented to Justice Alito and by him referred to the Court is denied," the order stated.
But I'm told that the crazies (i.e., the vast majority of Republican voters) don't think it's over:
The cultists have decided that this was denied because the Texas Lawsuit is the real deal(tm) and the supreme court just didn't want to overturn the election twice. — Joseph Ickowski (@JIckowski) December 8, 2020
And in fact, a quick visit to Gateway Pundit confirms that this is true:
The US Supreme Court denied the application for the injunctive relief presented to Justice Alito and by him referred to the Court is denied. This was the Sean Parnell and Mike Kelly case. Expert says SCOTUS rejected the PA case without any explanation because the same stuff is covered in the Texas case which is a bigger case that includes GA, MI, and WI.
"Experts say." LOL.
We know what comes next: GOP rank-and-file voters begin harassing and threatening Biden electors. The electors vote on December 14 in the capitals of the fifty states, assuming no AR-15-wielding mobs prevent them from doing so. And then?
Rudy and others will lobby GOP congress but not get enough support, then they will urge Trump to suspend the Constitution. — Karma Girl #BLM (@karmaatwrk) December 8, 2020
Before January 20, we'll have serious discussions about this. We might not believe Trump can do this, but we'll ponder, in all seriousness, the question of whether Trump might try to do this.
I believe he'll have his staff prepare an executive order declaring that the entire electoral process was fraudulent and he's the president. Ron DeSantis, Ted Cruz, Mo Brooks, and Sean Hannity will insist that the executive order has the force of law, won't they?
Or maybe even Trump has limits. Maybe he'll recognize the situation as a humiliation and just revert to endless whining rather than futile maneuvering. We'll see.
Posted with permission from No More Mr. Nice Blog
UPDATE: (Karoli)
17 states have signed on to the baseless lawsuit filed by Texas. Donald Trump has filed to intervene. None of this will matter. As master election lawyer and democracy defender Marc Elias says, they really ARE a basket of deplorables and little more.
Meanwhile we have the right wingers on media teasing some kind of event which will turn this election to Trump. All of this is designed to marry the Republican Party to Trump and little more. In the end they will all need to be obsolete.


crooksandliars--2020-12-09--Trump Admits Idiotic 'Herd Immunity'  Was His Only COVID Plan To Stop The Virus

During a press conference Tuesday , Donald Trump bragged that he had no real plans to curtail the spread of the pandemic outside of developing a vaccine and making sure enough Americans were getting infections to develop a `` herd immunity . ''
`` CDC puts out their guidelines and they are very important guidelines , but I think the vaccine was the goal , that was # 1 , '' Trump said with a tacit nod to his decision to let the virus ravage the country .
`` That 's the way it ends -- plus you do have @ @ @ @ @ @ @ certain period of time and I hear we 're close to 15 % I 'm hearing that and that is terrific ... '' The former Task Force member Dr. Scott Atlas , who was panned by the scientific community at large ( including Dr. Birx , who was furious over his lies ) and not an virus expert , promoted the unproven herd immunity theory that Trump then embrace after seeing him on Tucker Carlson 's program .
That was Trump 's only strategy all along and the safety of the American people @ @ @ @ @ @ @ because the man is too stupid and selfish to consider anyone but himself .
Developing a vaccine would be any president 's priority during a pandemic but also a president has the responsibility of trying to curtail the rates of infections of his constituents by making sure they follow CDC guidelines at all times .
One does this by becoming the example of what 's proscribed by the CDC during these trying times .
Instead , Trump held super-spreader campaign rallies , super-spreader events at the White House and parties which then were @ @ @ @ @ @ @ .
Then Trump made the same idiotic claim he 's been making since the coronavirus took hold of the country -- that we have so many cases because we test for them .
No , we have so many cases and deaths in America because so many people have become infected because Trump downplayed it , lied about the severity of it and then bashed anybody who disagreed with his Nero-styled denials .

During a press conference Tuesday, Donald Trump bragged that he had no real plans to curtail the spread of the pandemic outside of developing a vaccine and making sure enough Americans were getting infections to develop a "herd immunity."
"CDC puts out their guidelines and they are very important guidelines, but I think the vaccine was the goal, that was #1," Trump said with a tacit nod to his decision to let the virus ravage the country. "That's the way it ends -- plus you do have an immunity you develop an immunity over certain period of time and I hear we're close to 15% I'm hearing that and that is terrific..."
The former Task Force member Dr. Scott Atlas, who was panned by the scientific community at large (including Dr. Birx, who was furious over his lies) and not an virus expert, promoted the unproven herd immunity theory that Trump then embrace after seeing him on Tucker Carlson's program.
That was Trump's only strategy all along and the safety of the American people after COVID struck was never considered, because the man is too stupid and selfish to consider anyone but himself.
Developing a vaccine would be any president's priority during a pandemic but also a president has the responsibility of trying to curtail the rates of infections of his constituents by making sure they follow CDC guidelines at all times.
One does this by becoming the example of what's proscribed by the CDC during these trying times.
Instead, Trump held super-spreader campaign rallies, super-spreader events at the White House and parties which then were mimicked by many of his cultist supporters.
Then Trump made the same idiotic claim he's been making since the coronavirus took hold of the country -- that we have so many cases because we test for them.
No, we have so many cases and deaths in America because so many people have become infected because Trump downplayed it, lied about the severity of it and then bashed anybody who disagreed with his Nero-styled denials.
Murderous f**king jackass.
#TheTrumpVirus.


crooksandliars--2020-12-09--Jake Tapper Hands Trump A Dose Of Reality: 'Outgoing President Trump Lost'

As long as Trump keeps denying reality and lying about the election results , at least some journalists will be here to correct him .
Tonight , Jake Tapper did the honors , showing a clip of President Pinocchio at the Vaccine Summit answering a question about how the next administration ( the Biden/Harris administration ) will handle the distribution of the coronavirus vaccine .
Trump answered , `` We will have to see who the next administration is , because we won . ''
TAPPER : That 's not true .
Outgoing president Trump lost .
I 'm not @ @ @ @ @ @ @ why the president continues to state otherwise and spread this lie .
I do n't know if it 's political , or if he 's cynically lying , or if there is some sort of psychological issue .
The reality is , it does n't matter .
It does n't matter if he does n't want to acknowledge it .
On January 20 , President-elect Joe Biden will become President Joe Biden , elected by more than 81 million Americans .
Also , minutes ago , President-elect Biden vowed 100 million vaccine doses @ @ @ @ @ @ @ understand what Tapper means when he says it does n't matter that Trump keeps saying he won .
He means that this is n't Neverland , and it 's not like Trump can just clap if he wants Tinkerbell to live .
No matter what lies Trump tells about his having won the election , the wheels of government ( seem like they ) will turn , and Joe Biden will be sworn in as president on January 20 , 2021 .
I disagree that what Trump says does n't matter , though @ @ @ @ @ @ @ America 's actual president in January .
Trump 's lies do , however , have the crushing effect of normalizing denial , suspicion , and appeasement of Gestapo tactics against any government servant trying to honestly do their job .
Just ask Chris Krebs or Rebekah Jones .
Or hell , Jim Comey , for that matter .

As long as Trump keeps denying reality and lying about the election results, at least some journalists will be here to correct him. Tonight, Jake Tapper did the honors, showing a clip of President Pinocchio at the Vaccine Summit answering a question about how the next administration (the Biden/Harris administration) will handle the distribution of the coronavirus vaccine.
Trump answered, "We will have to see who the next administration is, because we won."
Tapper immediately went in.
TAPPER: That's not true. Outgoing president Trump lost. I'm not qualified as a news anchor to say why the president continues to state otherwise and spread this lie. I don't know if it's political, or if he's cynically lying, or if there is some sort of psychological issue. The reality is, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if he doesn't want to acknowledge it. On January 20, President-elect Joe Biden will become President Joe Biden, elected by more than 81 million Americans. Also, minutes ago, President-elect Biden vowed 100 million vaccine doses in his first 100 days.
I understand what Tapper means when he says it doesn't matter that Trump keeps saying he won. He means that this isn't Neverland, and it's not like Trump can just clap if he wants Tinkerbell to live. No matter what lies Trump tells about his having won the election, the wheels of government (seem like they) will turn, and Joe Biden will be sworn in as president on January 20, 2021.
I disagree that what Trump says doesn't matter, though. It may not impact who becomes America's actual president in January. Trump's lies do, however, have the crushing effect of normalizing denial, suspicion, and appeasement of Gestapo tactics against any government servant trying to honestly do their job. Just ask Chris Krebs or Rebekah Jones. Or hell, Jim Comey, for that matter.