crooksandliars--2020-12-05--How Hard Will The Right's Disinformationists Work To 'Prove' The Presidents' Vaccines Are Fake?

I 'm sure you know that three ex-presidents have stated that they intend to get vaccinated for COVID-19 and are willing to do so publicly : Will it surprise you if I say that right-wingers expect any on-air vaccinations to be faked ?
Here are commenters at Lucianne.com : The most insulting thing about this is that they think we are that stupid .
Do any of you believe they are really going to have the flu shot ?
It 's all for show .
How do we know they wo n't be given a placebo .
So TV is @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , these VIPs will be given plain saline solution for their `` vaccine '' ( unlike you , who will get the full-strength `` vaccine '' ... ) Yeah , and can one really know what is in the syringe ?
Slick Willie did not inhale , and neither will there be any needles in the syringes .
And who will be there to verify that the actual vaccine is actually be injected ?
?
I seriously doubt it is anything but a publicity stunt .
What a cozy group of disgusting former @ @ @ @ @ @ @ perks are ridiculous and here are the three of them , working against this great country .
Oh I agree - they will get a placebo .
I do not believe one word the three of them say !
Only if somebody trustworthy can inspect the vials to make sure they are truly filled with vaccine , not saline solution .
Wut ?
Do I think this would be a huge scam from the Clintons and so on to gull people into taking the vaccine ?
I certainly do .
Especially since Gates @ @ @ @ @ @ @ his own kids vaccinated while he was filling third world kids with his toxic poison .
There 's similar skepticism in comment threads at Breitbart and Free Republic .
I think these public vaccinations by the ex-presidents should happen .
Pew tells us that 60 % of Americans now say they 'll `` definitely '' or `` probably '' get a vaccine when it 's approved ; that 's up from 51 % in September , which is good , but it 's still too low to get us to real herd immunity @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Americans to get vaccinated is worth doing .
But if these vaccinations happen on camera , right-wingers wo n't just speculate that they 're fake -- the worst right-wing sites will publish elaborate stories offering `` proof '' of the fakery .
There 'll be seemingly painstaking `` analysis '' of video .
There 'll be `` whistleblower '' accounts from truck drivers who 'll say they delivered fake syringes or fake vaccine for the presidential photo ops .
There 'll be million-view `` fraud '' videos on YouTube and posts endlessly shared @ @ @ @ @ @ @ current Disinformationist in Chief wo n't be part of this process .
Though he 'll be out of office , I 'm sure he 'll weigh in -- but probably only to grumble about the fact that he 's not getting all the credit for the vaccine 's existence .
I do n't think Fox will participate , but Newsmax probably will , and OANN is certain to do so .
And let 's hope that none of the presidents slip up by getting their actual shots off camera while using the staged @ @ @ @ @ @ @ happens , it will be seized on as proof that the whole thing is a scam .
I hope none of this matters much -- but I fully expect it to happen .
Published with permission of No More Mr. Nice Blog

I'm sure you know that three ex-presidents have stated that they intend to get vaccinated for COVID-19 and are willing to do so publicly:
Former Presidents Barack Obama, George W. Bush and Bill Clinton are volunteering to get their Covid-19 vaccines on camera to promote public confidence in the vaccine's safety once the US Food and Drug Administration authorizes one.
Will it surprise you if I say that right-wingers expect any on-air vaccinations to be faked? Here are commenters at Lucianne.com:
The most insulting thing about this is that they think we are that stupid. Do any of you believe they are really going to have the flu shot? It's all for show. **** How do we know they won't be given a placebo. **** placebo **** So TV is involved, huh? Don't worry, these VIPs will be given plain saline solution for their "vaccine" (unlike you, who will get the full-strength "vaccine"...) **** Yeah, and can one really know what is in the syringe? **** Slick Willie did not inhale, and neither will there be any needles in the syringes. **** And who will be there to verify that the actual vaccine is actually be injected?? I seriously doubt it is anything but a publicity stunt. **** What a cozy group of disgusting former Presidents we have. Those pensions and perks are ridiculous and here are the three of them, working against this great country. Oh I agree - they will get a placebo. I do not believe one word the three of them say! **** Only if somebody trustworthy can inspect the vials to make sure they are truly filled with vaccine, not saline solution. Wut? Do I think this would be a huge scam from the Clintons and so on to gull people into taking the vaccine? I certainly do. Especially since Gates is involved, and he never got his own kids vaccinated while he was filling third world kids with his toxic poison.
(As Reuters and AP have noted, the claim that Bill Gates's children were never vaccinated is a lie.)
There's similar skepticism in comment threads at Breitbart and Free Republic.
I think these public vaccinations by the ex-presidents should happen. Pew tells us that 60% of Americans now say they'll "definitely" or "probably" get a vaccine when it's approved; that's up from 51% in September, which is good, but it's still too low to get us to real herd immunity. Anything we can do to persuade Americans to get vaccinated is worth doing.
But if these vaccinations happen on camera, right-wingers won't just speculate that they're fake -- the worst right-wing sites will publish elaborate stories offering "proof" of the fakery. There'll be seemingly painstaking "analysis" of video. There'll be "whistleblower" accounts from truck drivers who'll say they delivered fake syringes or fake vaccine for the presidential photo ops. There'll be million-view "fraud" videos on YouTube and posts endlessly shared on Facebook.
With luck, the current Disinformationist in Chief won't be part of this process. Though he'll be out of office, I'm sure he'll weigh in -- but probably only to grumble about the fact that he's not getting all the credit for the vaccine's existence. I don't think Fox will participate, but Newsmax probably will, and OANN is certain to do so. And let's hope that none of the presidents slip up by getting their actual shots off camera while using the staged event as a reenactment -- if that happens, it will be seized on as proof that the whole thing is a scam.
I hope none of this matters much -- but I fully expect it to happen.
Published with permission of No More Mr. Nice Blog


crooksandliars--2020-12-05--President-elect Biden Warns Of 'Dire Straits' If McConnell And GOP Doesn't Go Big On Stimulus

Imagine a world where the president of the United States is n't a cynical , selfish , corrupt con man .
We 're starting to have our national psyche slowly brought out of the systemic shock from the last four years of constant abuse thanks to President-elect Joe Biden .
His answers to reporters today were ... normal .
Reassuring .
Assumed the best of even Republicans .
In discussing the stimulus package , the compromise version of which which has been gaining some tiny bit of momentum with the extremely stingy GOP in the Senate , Biden still insisted @ @ @ @ @ @ @ and goodwill .
REPORTER : Thank you , Mr. President-elect .
You are describing this compromised bill as a down payment , that you will push Congress to do more once you 're in office , but this bill is already more than Republican leaders want to spend .
What if this is n't a down payment , what if this bill is it ?
What are your options , then to get Americans additional relief ?
BIDEN : I never start off thinking that way .
I always start off believing that @ @ @ @ @ @ @ 'll get it done .
REPORTER : But it has been more than six months this fight has been going on .
Mitch McConnell still has n't even signed off yet on this compromised bill .
What makes you so confident that you will be able to get Republicans to go big once you 're in office ?
BIDEN : Because the country is going to be in dire , dire , dire straits if they do n't .
REPORTER : Have you reached out to Leader McConnell ?
Have the two of @ @ @ @ @ @ @ 'll be in dire trouble if we do n't get cooperation .
I believe we will .
This attitude can hardly be considered naïve from a Senate veteran with decades of experience .
It 's the attitude of a person who knows exactly what is at stake , how many millions of Americans are suffering from the pandemic 's economic consequences .
It 's also someone who knows who how to set something up so that if the bill fails , it ca n't be because he did n't come to the table @ @ @ @ @ @ @ be the fault of the Republicans .

Imagine a world where the president of the United States isn't a cynical, selfish, corrupt con man. We're starting to have our national psyche slowly brought out of the systemic shock from the last four years of constant abuse thanks to President-elect Joe Biden. His answers to reporters today were...normal. Reassuring. Assumed the best of even Republicans.
In discussing the stimulus package, the compromise version of which which has been gaining some tiny bit of momentum with the extremely stingy GOP in the Senate, Biden still insisted upon operating from a place of optimism and goodwill.
REPORTER: Thank you, Mr. President-elect. You are describing this compromised bill as a down payment, that you will push Congress to do more once you're in office, but this bill is already more than Republican leaders want to spend. What if this isn't a down payment, what if this bill is it? What are your options, then to get Americans additional relief? BIDEN: I never start off thinking that way. I always start off believing that we can get it done. We'll get it done. REPORTER: But it has been more than six months this fight has been going on. Mitch McConnell still hasn't even signed off yet on this compromised bill. What makes you so confident that you will be able to get Republicans to go big once you're in office? BIDEN: Because the country is going to be in dire, dire, dire straits if they don't. REPORTER: Have you reached out to Leader McConnell? Have the two of you spoken yet? BIDEN: We'll be in dire trouble if we don't get cooperation. I believe we will.
This attitude can hardly be considered naïve from a Senate veteran with decades of experience. It's the attitude of a person who knows exactly what is at stake, how many millions of Americans are suffering from the pandemic's economic consequences. It's also someone who knows who how to set something up so that if the bill fails, it can't be because he didn't come to the table in good faith. It can only be the fault of the Republicans.


crooksandliars--2020-12-05--Not Just ‘Standing By,’ Proud Boys Bring Politics Of Intimidation To Streets In Defense Of Trump

It ’ s become apparent that , even as Donald Trump tries to deny reality and continue claiming he won the election , the hate group that he ordered , on national television , to “ stand back and stand by ” now considers ( per leadership ’ s statements that “ standby order has been rescinded , ” as well as other threatening statements on social media ) those orders null and void : The Proud Boys are now playing the role of Trump ’ s goon-squad defenders in the streets—and appear unlikely to stop anytime soon .
Following @ @ @ @ @ @ @ in Washington , D.C. , during and after the “ Million MAGA March ” of November 14 , the familiar black-and-yellow polos , red MAGA hats and thug tactics have been showing up on the streets of Raleigh , North Carolina ; Sacramento , California ; and Staten Island , New York .
At each event , brawls broke out amid overheated rhetoric , much of it in Trump ’ s defense .
The violence follows the pattern established over the previous four years—right-wing extremists organizing gangs of out-of-town thugs from rural and @ @ @ @ @ @ @ on vague political pretexts in order to engage in threatening acts of intimidation and provoke violence that they can then blame on “ antifa ” and the “ left.
” And as with all those events , the Proud Boys ’ presence has been to act as street enforcers for a variety of far-right causes : Denouncing the election results , protesting about COVID-19 public-health measures , or whatever else might be the right-wing grievance du jour .
Mostly , it ’ s about creating fear and violence on behalf of a white-nationalist @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Proud Boys exist for , and it ’ s why the Southern Poverty Law Center lists them as a “ general ” hate group .
All during the COVID-19 pandemic , the Proud Boys have been whipping up a sense of public intimidation at the liberal cities where they hold rallies while spreading conspiracist misinformation about the virus , its spread , and the government orders intended to fight it .
These appearances have been part of the Proud Boys ’ steady drumbeat of bringing the politics of thuggery to American cities throughout @ @ @ @ @ @ @ and Research on Human Rights has mapped out in detail , for a variety of ostensible causes .
In Raleigh last weekend , Proud Boys came out to protest North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper ’ s pandemic-related business restrictions , particularly those on indoor gatherings .
Calling it a `` Pilgrims and Patriots Thanksgiving in Raleigh '' event , organizers with Reopen Carolina joined arms with the Proud Boys and a Latinos for Trump group at the state Capitol .
Then , as usual , they proceeded to provoke brawls with counterprotesters who @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Of Raleigh . ''
There were no fights , since police kept the two sides separated assiduously .
So the Proud Boys turned their thug tactics to the press who came to cover the event , including a reporter for the Indy who they harassed .
Their report describes it : Proud Boys also showed up at another COVID-related protest in Staten Island—this time outside Mac ’ s Public House , a tavern that had recently been busted for offering food and drinks beyond a 10 PM cutoff time mandated by New York @ @ @ @ @ @ @ maskless crowd gathered outside the pub on Wednesday night to protest the charges .
Inside the pub , there were chants of “ Proud Boys in the house.
” According to the New York Post , a speaker also led a Proud Boys chant : `` I am a proud Western Chauvinist . ''
Afterward , they segued into singing Queen ’ s “ We Will Rock You.
” According to The Sun , protesters blamed New York Governor Andrew Cuomo for the pandemic measures , with signs reading “ Dictator Cuomo.
” @ @ @ @ @ @ @ megaphone : “ Where is your backbone ?
Where is your morality ?
” The event in Sacramento had nothing to do with COVID-19 , but instead was entirely a protest of the election results , and an insistence that Trump won the election—and heavily populated by Proud Boys and their militia cohort .
One of the Proud Boys told the crowd that the organization ’ s role was to defend “ people like you that come out to rallies.
” As Capital Radio reporter Scott Rodd observed , those were hollow words @ @ @ @ @ @ @ multiple brawls had broken out , and police—who declared an unlawful assembly and issued a dispersal order—reported one arrest on “ assault-related charges.
” Reporter Gabe Stutman of Jewish Weekly was also present , and watched as , after their rally speeches ended , “ they spilled into the streets of downtown Sacramento , chanting ‘ Whose streets ?
Our streets !
’ and ‘ F*ck antifa !
’ while butting up against police cordons that blocked their path .
The demonstrators exchanged insults and threats with roughly a dozen people identified as @ @ @ @ @ @ @ that “ each protest has followed a similar pattern , ” one familiar to reporters covering Proud Boys events elsewhere : First , a peaceful demonstration with speeches in a public space , followed by a march into downtown or other urban areas with the intent of brawling with counterprotesters—or , for that matter , anyone who shouts at them or protests them .
The San Francisco-based office of the ADL for the Central Pacific region issued a statement decrying the event : “ First , they bring attention and possibly attract new @ @ @ @ @ @ @ the Proud Boys , ” it read .
“ Second , their provocative and divisive rhetoric can and does lead to violence , as we saw in Sacramento and elsewhere.
” Stutman also described getting the intimidation treatment from a right-wing protester , who shouted insults and blocked his cell-phone-camera lens .
When Stutman asked if he was a Proud Boy , the man responded : “ I ’ m a white boy , motherf*cker .
”

It’s become apparent that, even as Donald Trump tries to deny reality and continue claiming he won the election, the hate group that he ordered, on national television, to “stand back and stand by” now considers (per leadership’s statements that “standby order has been rescinded,” as well as other threatening statements on social media) those orders null and void: The Proud Boys are now playing the role of Trump’s goon-squad defenders in the streets—and appear unlikely to stop anytime soon.
Following the initial burst of Proud Boy violence in Washington, D.C., during and after the “Million MAGA March” of November 14, the familiar black-and-yellow polos, red MAGA hats and thug tactics have been showing up on the streets of Raleigh, North Carolina; Sacramento, California; and Staten Island, New York. At each event, brawls broke out amid overheated rhetoric, much of it in Trump’s defense.
The violence follows the pattern established over the previous four years—right-wing extremists organizing gangs of out-of-town thugs from rural and exurban areas to invade liberal urban centers on vague political pretexts in order to engage in threatening acts of intimidation and provoke violence that they can then blame on “antifa” and the “left.” And as with all those events, the Proud Boys’ presence has been to act as street enforcers for a variety of far-right causes: Denouncing the election results, protesting about COVID-19 public-health measures, or whatever else might be the right-wing grievance du jour.
Mostly, it’s about creating fear and violence on behalf of a white-nationalist agenda. That’s what the Proud Boys exist for, and it’s why the Southern Poverty Law Center lists them as a “general” hate group.
All during the COVID-19 pandemic, the Proud Boys have been whipping up a sense of public intimidation at the liberal cities where they hold rallies while spreading conspiracist misinformation about the virus, its spread, and the government orders intended to fight it. These appearances have been part of the Proud Boys’ steady drumbeat of bringing the politics of thuggery to American cities throughout 2020, as the Institute for Education and Research on Human Rights has mapped out in detail, for a variety of ostensible causes.
In Raleigh last weekend, Proud Boys came out to protest North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper’s pandemic-related business restrictions, particularly those on indoor gatherings. Calling it a "Pilgrims and Patriots Thanksgiving in Raleigh" event, organizers with Reopen Carolina joined arms with the Proud Boys and a Latinos for Trump group at the state Capitol. Then, as usual, they proceeded to provoke brawls with counterprotesters who held an event called "Racists Out Of Raleigh."
There were no fights, since police kept the two sides separated assiduously. So the Proud Boys turned their thug tactics to the press who came to cover the event, including a reporter for the Indy who they harassed. Their report describes it:
A man in a Proud Boys bandana kept the INDY reporter from recording speeches by putting his hand in front of the camera, while others around pretended to sneeze. A woman in a white tank top and MAGA hat also told the reporter to leave. This happened a second time once the group was back at the Jones Street corner; this time, the man who had been blocking the camera told the reporter, "we can ask you to leave, or we can make you leave."
Proud Boys also showed up at another COVID-related protest in Staten Island—this time outside Mac’s Public House, a tavern that had recently been busted for offering food and drinks beyond a 10 PM cutoff time mandated by New York City officials. A large, entirely maskless crowd gathered outside the pub on Wednesday night to protest the charges.
Inside the pub, there were chants of “Proud Boys in the house.” According to the New York Post, a speaker also led a Proud Boys chant: "I am a proud Western Chauvinist." Afterward, they segued into singing Queen’s “We Will Rock You.”
According to The Sun, protesters blamed New York Governor Andrew Cuomo for the pandemic measures, with signs reading “Dictator Cuomo.” One protester shouted at cops through a megaphone: “Where is your backbone? Where is your morality?”
The event in Sacramento had nothing to do with COVID-19, but instead was entirely a protest of the election results, and an insistence that Trump won the election—and heavily populated by Proud Boys and their militia cohort. One of the Proud Boys told the crowd that the organization’s role was to defend “people like you that come out to rallies.”
As Capital Radio reporter Scott Rodd observed, those were hollow words:
But the Proud Boys also played the aggressor. CapRadio observed one Proud Boy take a swing at a member of the press for filming him. Other members, after the demonstrators returned to the barricaded area near the Capitol, remained outside the perimeter and instigated counter-protesters and passersby. Several chased after one counter-protester. Some also followed and taunted observers from the National Lawyers Guild.
By day’s end, multiple brawls had broken out, and police—who declared an unlawful assembly and issued a dispersal order—reported one arrest on “assault-related charges.”
Reporter Gabe Stutman of Jewish Weekly was also present, and watched as, after their rally speeches ended, “they spilled into the streets of downtown Sacramento, chanting ‘Whose streets? Our streets!’ and ‘F*ck antifa!’ while butting up against police cordons that blocked their path. The demonstrators exchanged insults and threats with roughly a dozen people identified as part of antifa ...”
Stutman notes that “each protest has followed a similar pattern,” one familiar to reporters covering Proud Boys events elsewhere: First, a peaceful demonstration with speeches in a public space, followed by a march into downtown or other urban areas with the intent of brawling with counterprotesters—or, for that matter, anyone who shouts at them or protests them.
The San Francisco-based office of the ADL for the Central Pacific region issued a statement decrying the event: “First, they bring attention and possibly attract new adherents to extremist agendas and groups like the Proud Boys,” it read. “Second, their provocative and divisive rhetoric can and does lead to violence, as we saw in Sacramento and elsewhere.”
Stutman also described getting the intimidation treatment from a right-wing protester, who shouted insults and blocked his cell-phone-camera lens. When Stutman asked if he was a Proud Boy, the man responded: “I’m a white boy, motherf*cker.”
Republished with permission from Daily Kos.


crooksandliars--2020-12-05--Mike's Blog Round Up

Mike's Blog Round Up

Off the Charts Blog : November ’ s disappointing jobs report is a disaster for the unemployed .
Boing Boing @ @ @ @ @ his list of premature withdrawals .
Lawfare : Unlike his limited role in investigating detainee @ @ @ @ @ the Bush administration , Special Counsel John Durham can prosecute almost anything or anyone related @ @ @ @ @ probes of Donald Trump .
Speaking of which , your quote of the day : @ @ @ @ @ by John Durham ] was limited to a determination of whether prosecutable offenses were committed @ @ @ @ @ , and does not resolve , broader questions regarding the propriety of the examined conduct @ @ @ @ @ Eric Holder , August 30 , 2012 ) Guest blogging Mike 's Blog Round Up @ @ @ @ @ from Perrspectives .
Send your tips , recommendations , comments and angst to mbru AT @ @ @ @

Bark Bark Woof Woof: Donald Trump believes Cleveland rocks.
Off the Charts Blog: November’s disappointing jobs report is a disaster for the unemployed.
Boing Boing: Trump adds Somalia to his list of premature withdrawals.
Lawfare: Unlike his limited role in investigating detainee torture by U.S. interrogators during the Bush administration, Special Counsel John Durham can prosecute almost anything or anyone related to the FBI and Mueller probes of Donald Trump.
Speaking of which, your quote of the day:
"Our inquiry [led by John Durham] was limited to a determination of whether prosecutable offenses were committed and was not intended to, and does not resolve, broader questions regarding the propriety of the examined conduct." (Obama Attorney Eric Holder , August 30, 2012)
Guest blogging Mike's Blog Round Up this week is Jon Perr from Perrspectives. Send your tips, recommendations, comments and angst to mbru AT crooksandliars DOT com.


crooksandliars--2020-12-06--Rudy Giuliani Hospitalized With COVID-19, Karma Does Its Thing

Well , ai n't Karma a swift kick in the a $ s ?
First Donald Trump his favorite `` lawyer '' is down with the hoax virus .
Then , as I wrote this post , ABC News confirmed Rudy Giuliani was admitted to Georgetown University Medical Center today .
This , after taping a Fox News segment with Maria Bartiromo this morning .
.
@ RudyGiuliani , by far the greatest mayor in the history of NYC , and who has been working tirelessly exposing the most corrupt election ( by far ! )
in the history of @ @ @ @ @ @ @ the China Virus .
Get better soon Rudy , we will carry on !
!
!
Twitter had oodles of sympathy , as you can imagine .
1 .
Rudy Giuliani was the WORST Mayor .
2 .
He has been farting tirelessly .
3 .
This was the most secure election .
4 .
You are the most corrupt `` president '' 5 .
It is the trump Virus , not the China Virus .
6 .
Rudy will only get worse .
7 .
Carry your crooked ass into prison .

Well, ain't Karma a swift kick in the a$s? First Donald Trump his favorite "lawyer" is down with the hoax virus. Then, as I wrote this post, ABC News confirmed Rudy Giuliani was admitted to Georgetown University Medical Center today. This, after taping a Fox News segment with Maria Bartiromo this morning.
.@RudyGiuliani, by far the greatest mayor in the history of NYC, and who has been working tirelessly exposing the most corrupt election (by far!) in the history of the USA, has tested positive for the China Virus. Get better soon Rudy, we will carry on!!! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 6, 2020
Twitter had oodles of sympathy, as you can imagine.
Rudy Giuliani finally gets a positive result! — Mrs. Betty Bowers (@BettyBowers) December 6, 2020
I want to offer my thoughts and prayers to COVID. — (((DeanObeidallah))) (@DeanObeidallah) December 6, 2020
1. Rudy Giuliani was the WORST Mayor.
2. He has been farting tirelessly.
3. This was the most secure election.
4. You are the most corrupt "president"
5. It is the trump Virus, not the China Virus.
6. Rudy will only get worse.
7. Carry your crooked ass into prison. — BrooklynDad_Defiant! (@mmpadellan) December 6, 2020
so much for the theory that guzzling vodka straight from bottle prevents covid — Jeff Tiedrich (@itsJeffTiedrich) December 6, 2020
So which animal do you think it was? pic.twitter.com/Zc8jFIhFhM — Carpe Diem (@__CarpeDiem__3) December 6, 2020


crooksandliars--2020-12-06--‘Part Of The Election Coup’: Fox News Viewers Go Berserk After Chris Wallace Calls Biden ‘President-

‘Part Of The Election Coup’: Fox News Viewers Go Berserk After Chris Wallace Calls Biden ‘President-Elect’

Fox News viewers expressed outrage at Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace on Sunday after he repeatedly insisted that Joe Biden is the rightful president-elect .
Wallace made the remarks during an interview with Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar , who referred to Biden as a former vice president.
“ He ’ s president-elect , ” Wallace told Azar multiple times .
On Twitter , some Fox News viewers said that Wallace was part of an “ election coup.
” Others falsely argued that Wallace was wrong because there has not yet been meeting of the Electoral College @ @ @ @ @ @ @ for president .
In fact , “ president-elect ” is a term that has traditionally been used by the media to refer to the candidate who won the majority of electoral votes in the November election .
The phrase does not appear in the U.S. Constitution .
Read some of the responses to Wallace below .
Chris Wallace is , for lack of a better term , an assclown .
My understanding is that he is NOT President Elect until the determination is made by the Electoral College .
I have not seen @ @ @ @ @ @ @ that Fox News does the coronation ... just sayin Chris Wallace corrects HHS Secretary Alex Azar for calling Joe Biden 'vice president ' rather than 'president-elect' This is me correcting Chris Wallace : Joe Biden is STILL NOT the president-elect and WO N'T BE until the Electoral College says so .
— @ MovieManMike Michael Clark Movies From The Right ( @ moviesfromther1 ) December 6 , 2020

Fox News viewers expressed outrage at Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace on Sunday after he repeatedly insisted that Joe Biden is the rightful president-elect.
Wallace made the remarks during an interview with Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar, who referred to Biden as a former vice president.“He’s president-elect,” Wallace told Azar multiple times.
On Twitter, some Fox News viewers said that Wallace was part of an “election coup.” Others falsely argued that Wallace was wrong because there has not yet been meeting of the Electoral College, where electors will cast their votes for president.
In fact, “president-elect” is a term that has traditionally been used by the media to refer to the candidate who won the majority of electoral votes in the November election. The phrase does not appear in the U.S. Constitution.
Read some of the responses to Wallace below.
OMG listening to @foxnewsunday Chris Wallace you would think he was Joe Biden's first gentleman. Chris Wallace was carrying so much water for the libtard elect it was embarrassing. — Pdub (@PaulWri09830246) December 6, 2020
I keep giving Chris Wallace and opportunity to do the right thing and he keeps disappointing me. @FoxNewsSunday you might want to check yourself Chris, Slow Joe pedophile Joe, is not the president-elect just because you say so. He is the ex vice president — WALKAWAYFAST🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 (@marycmcl) December 6, 2020
U R correct Chris Wallace @FoxNewsSunday ... I will never ever believe that basement Biden is a legitimate president. There is no possible way he could get more votes than Obama... — A Deplorable CHUMP! (@SuchHate) December 6, 2020
Chris Wallace insisted sec Aszar refer to Biden as pres elect. Twice. Never insisted people stop saying just Trump. Instead of President Trump. He has assumed the role of a pontificating arrogant asshole. — robert l palliser sr (@l_palliser) December 6, 2020
Chris Wallace is disgusting. Campaigning for Biden instead of investigative reporting. Fox needs to pull the plug on his personal propaganda agenda — Brett Schmidt (@brettschmidt107) December 6, 2020
Chris Wallace take a hike, Beijing Biden will never be president. He is the most corrupt candidate in the history of the US. If he was such a sure thing why doesn't he answer questions of alleged fraud? Why wouldn't he want to prove his legitimacy? — Laura (@lbwaggon) December 6, 2020
hey @FoxNewsSunday, your disrespect of Secretary Azar is absolutely uncalled for. A) @joebiden is NOT the president elect. Nothing has been resolved. B) No one cares what @JohnBrennan has to say after his bashing Trump for 4 years, and you are becoming almost as irrelevant. — Office of the Vice-President Elect, Semipro (@semipro) December 6, 2020
Chris Wallace is, for lack of a better term, an assclown. My understanding is that he is NOT President Elect until the determination is made by the Electoral College. I have not seen the provision in the Constitution that says that Fox News does the coronation... just sayin — BigMikeyVegas (@bigmikeyvegas) December 6, 2020
POOR POOR @FoxNewsSunday WALLACE whining about @SecAzar PROPERLY addressing JOE BIDEN as FORMER VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN, not fake president-elect biden. BRAVO ALEX!!! You did great! WALLACE is sick media — Michael Murdock USNAVYVET🇺🇸🇮🇹 #AMERICANPATRIOT (@the1murdock) December 6, 2020
We will never forget what Chris Wallace did. Biden will always be to us the Vice President. He will never be President. Ever. — Thomas Kelly (@ThomasK34193000) December 6, 2020
Chris Wallace corrects HHS Secretary Alex Azar for calling Joe Biden 'vice president' rather than 'president-elect'
This is me correcting Chris Wallace: Joe Biden is STILL NOT the president-elect and WON'T BE until the Electoral College says so. — @MovieManMike Michael Clark Movies From The Right (@moviesfromther1) December 6, 2020
Chris Wallace and Fox Sunday are & continue to be a complete dumpster propaganda fire. He has John Brennan on to talk about how great the Obama Administration was and tries to force Sec Azar to call Biden President-Elect. Turn it off & turn away. Do your own research. 🇺🇸 — ☠ Truth Monger ☠ (@MattyButts1) December 6, 2020
You know #FoxNews bitch Chris Wallace is part of the Election Coup, since he is trending on .@Twitter defending #CheatingBiden. — President-Elect Santos Victorero➡Stop the Steal👍 (@SantosVictorero) December 6, 2020
Hey wallace, ur showing ur fucking stupidity...no one is president-elect until the electors are awarded & there is no "office of the president-elect" either, what a joke! You need to go over a fake news network as that's what u have become...FAKE NEWS!!! — michael forshaw (@rockypointmich1) December 6, 2020
Chris Wallace lying to America on National TV again. Azar owned his ass! Mike Wallace is turning in his grave. What a disgrace. There is no President Elect and he knows it. — mike davis (@mikedav14049206) December 6, 2020
Chris Wallace: “He’s the president-elect, sir. He’s the president-elect.”
Ok, Chris, he’s the president-elect just like you’re a journalist. Got it. — First Words (@unscriptedmike) December 6, 2020
Want to know why millions of viewers are now turning to @newsmax or @OANN - Listen to this!@FoxNews anchor Chris Wallace interrupted Health & Human Services Secretary Alex Azar on Sunday after Azar referred to Joe Biden as "vice president" rather than "president-elect."@POTUS — Joelon Wilson (@futureicon) December 6, 2020
#Chris Wallace corrects HHS secretary for not calling Biden the president-elect-wallace is such a “d-bag!” @dcexaminer — Judge Pete ⭐⭐⭐KAG (@Judgepete81) December 6, 2020
Chris Wallace, @foxnewssunday, has confirmed he is a pathetic hack, and has destroyed all his credibility today
To give Brennan a complete pass on proven, and well-documented lies, is disgraceful and disgusting
In the meantime, Wallace lies about Trump and his WH. Evil and vile — President-Elect Steven 🇺🇸🌅 (@SirStevenKJ) December 6, 2020
Chris Wallace Joe Biden isn't President elect SIR! Not with 1000 Whisterblowers tell truth about corrupt ballots counts. An Giuliani with vidoes show truth about persons recounting ballots many times. An truck drivers telling how cross states lines with ballots Biden name on them — Dennis lasko (@dennis1160) December 6, 2020


crooksandliars--2020-12-06--Sorry Kellyanne, But Biden Has Already Prevailed

Sorry , Kellyanne , this is n't good enough : Kellyanne Conway said President Donald Trump has “ the right ” to exhaust his legal challenges , but acknowledged that Joe Biden appears headed to the White House as the next president of the United States .
“ The president wants to exhaust all of his legal avenues , as he has made clear many times .
His team is doing that , and that is his right , ” Conway said in an interview with The 19th ’ s Washington correspondent , Amanda Becker , that aired Friday .
@ @ @ @ @ @ @ totals in the Electoral College tally , it looks like Joe Biden and Kamala Harris will prevail .
I assume the electors will certify that and it will be official .
We , as a nation , will move forward , because we always do.
” No , it 's not true that Biden will prevail .
Biden has prevailed .
He won .
California certified its election results yesterday , which gives Biden more than the 270 electoral votes he needs to become president -- and even before that , come on @ @ @ @ @ @ @ seriously dispute that Biden won there ?
Trump lost court cases in six states yesterday .
His team 's claim that Biden votes were pulled out of a suitcase in Georgia has been shot down by local officials , news organizations , fact-checking groups , and even Erick Erickson .
It 's over .
If you want to impress me with how reality-based you are , talk about Biden 's win as something that 's already happened .
The votes of the Electoral College electors on December 14 will be a formality .
@ @ @ @ @ @ @ 249 Republicans in Congress have acknowledged that Biden is the winner , according to The Washington Post .
Only 30 now say that they 'll accept Biden 's win as legitimate following the Electoral College vote ( though all but 2 of the Republicans who wo n't say yes were too cowardly to respond one way or another ) .
They need to be asked again after the December 14 vote .
I think the numbers will go up -- but not by much .
Which means , as I told you a @ @ @ @ @ @ @ going to have conspiracy theater on January 6 , when Congress opens the ballots and ratifies Biden 's win .
Biden will be declared the winner , but the only reason I 'm sure of that is that the House is securely in Democratic hands , and you need both houses of Congress to reject a state 's electors .
If the Republicans had won both houses , I ca n't say for certain who 'd be the next president .
And in fact , many MAGA folks argue in all seriousness that @ @ @ @ @ @ @ lost by 5 million votes ) .
Look , I understand that these folks hate non-White people and assume that every Black vote is cast in a city run by a corrupt political machine , while every Hispanic vote ( at least the ones for Democrats ) is cast by an undocumented immigrant .
I realize that 's how these people think .
But at the same time , they complain about how much we hate Donald Trump .
They piss and moan about the volume of hatred for Trump that they see @ @ @ @ @ @ @ they believe that any of that anger against Trump translated into legitimate votes ?
What do they think -- we hate him , but we did n't vote against him ?
Our all-consuming hatred led us to fake millions of votes but not cast any real ones ?
I guess they just think none of us are citizens -- even the White Trump haters .
So none of our votes should count .
Posted with permission from No More Mr. Nice Blog

Sorry, Kellyanne, this isn't good enough:
Kellyanne Conway said President Donald Trump has “the right” to exhaust his legal challenges, but acknowledged that Joe Biden appears headed to the White House as the next president of the United States. “The president wants to exhaust all of his legal avenues, as he has made clear many times. His team is doing that, and that is his right,” Conway said in an interview with The 19th’s Washington correspondent, Amanda Becker, that aired Friday. “If you look at the vote totals in the Electoral College tally, it looks like Joe Biden and Kamala Harris will prevail. I assume the electors will certify that and it will be official. We, as a nation, will move forward, because we always do.”
No, it's not true that Biden will prevail. Biden has prevailed. He won. California certified its election results yesterday, which gives Biden more than the 270 electoral votes he needs to become president -- and even before that, come on, it's California. Does anyone seriously dispute that Biden won there?
Trump lost court cases in six states yesterday. His team's claim that Biden votes were pulled out of a suitcase in Georgia has been shot down by local officials, news organizations, fact-checking groups, and even Erick Erickson.
It's over. If you want to impress me with how reality-based you are, talk about Biden's win as something that's already happened. The votes of the Electoral College electors on December 14 will be a formality.
But no -- only 25 of the 249 Republicans in Congress have acknowledged that Biden is the winner, according to The Washington Post. Only 30 now say that they'll accept Biden's win as legitimate following the Electoral College vote (though all but 2 of the Republicans who won't say yes were too cowardly to respond one way or another).
They need to be asked again after the December 14 vote. I think the numbers will go up -- but not by much. Which means, as I told you a couple of days ago, we're going to have conspiracy theater on January 6, when Congress opens the ballots and ratifies Biden's win. Biden will be declared the winner, but the only reason I'm sure of that is that the House is securely in Democratic hands, and you need both houses of Congress to reject a state's electors. If the Republicans had won both houses, I can't say for certain who'd be the next president.
And in fact, many MAGA folks argue in all seriousness that Trump won California (a state he lost by 5 million votes).
Republicans picked up a lot of seats in California so it only made sense that Trump won California as well. — Kristin (@Trev13_kristin) December 3, 2020
I just heard 1.7 million votes in California most likely fake. Hope its true Probally a lot more. — RONALD Hafer Patriot. (@ronald_59) December 2, 2020
Trump won Georgia.
Trump won North Carolina.
Trump won Pennsylvania.
Trump won Wisconsin.
Trump won Michigan.
Trump won Arizona.
Trump won Nevada.
Trump won Minnesota.
Trump won California.
Trump won. — Robg🔥🔥🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🐣🍎🧱🏋👑🇺🇸 (@reubing) November 27, 2020
Trump won California in a landslide https://t.co/IoG7eVS9tG — ❌Dr. Alex Karman❌ (@karmaal2010) December 3, 2020
Look, I understand that these folks hate non-White people and assume that every Black vote is cast in a city run by a corrupt political machine, while every Hispanic vote (at least the ones for Democrats) is cast by an undocumented immigrant. I realize that's how these people think.
But at the same time, they complain about how much we hate Donald Trump. They piss and moan about the volume of hatred for Trump that they see in America.
So why don't they believe that any of that anger against Trump translated into legitimate votes? What do they think -- we hate him, but we didn't vote against him? Our all-consuming hatred led us to fake millions of votes but not cast any real ones?
I guess they just think none of us are citizens -- even the White Trump haters. So none of our votes should count.
Posted with permission from No More Mr. Nice Blog


crooksandliars--2020-12-06--Ousted DHS Official Rips GOPers For Election Hypocrisy: 'They've Accepted Their Outcomes And Their R

Ousted DHS Official Rips GOPers For Election Hypocrisy: 'They've Accepted Their Outcomes And Their Races'

Former Department of Homeland Security official Chris Krebs on Sunday slammed Republican candidates who have accepted the outcomes of their elections but have refused to admit that President Donald Trump lost to President-elect Joe Biden .
Krebs , who is the former head of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency , was fired by Trump after his group released a statement calling the 2020 election the most secure in U.S. history .
`` Just 27 congressional Republicans have acknowledged Joe Biden 's victory , '' CBS host Margaret Brennan told Krebs during a Sunday interview .
`` That 's 27 @ @ @ @ @ @ @ majority of Republicans remaining silent on what you 're describing here as a security risk ? ''
`` I ca n't speak to what their motivations are , '' Krebs noted .
`` The rest of them have to acknowledge that the system in place to conduct the election was legitimate .
Particularly in the House , they 've accepted their outcomes and their races .
I do n't see any difference here between the presidential race . ''
`` It is well past the time where all leaders of the Republican Party @ @ @ @ @ @ @ race and move on and accept that Joe Biden is the president-elect , '' he said .
Krebs argued that the point of elections is to `` convince the losers they lost . ''
`` But to do that , you have to have willing participants that are honest brokers , '' he explained .
`` And we 're just not seeing this right now .
You know , every court case or filing has been rejected by the courts .
And so any fraud claims , any security claims , any sorts @ @ @ @ @ @ @ 're just not seeing supporting evidence . ''

Former Department of Homeland Security official Chris Krebs on Sunday slammed Republican candidates who have accepted the outcomes of their elections but have refused to admit that President Donald Trump lost to President-elect Joe Biden.
Krebs, who is the former head of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, was fired by Trump after his group released a statement calling the 2020 election the most secure in U.S. history.
"Just 27 congressional Republicans have acknowledged Joe Biden's victory," CBS host Margaret Brennan told Krebs during a Sunday interview. "That's 27 out of 249. Why are the majority of Republicans remaining silent on what you're describing here as a security risk?"
"I can't speak to what their motivations are," Krebs noted. "The rest of them have to acknowledge that the system in place to conduct the election was legitimate. Particularly in the House, they've accepted their outcomes and their races. I don't see any difference here between the presidential race."
"It is well past the time where all leaders of the Republican Party need to accept the outcome of this race and move on and accept that Joe Biden is the president-elect," he said.
Krebs argued that the point of elections is to "convince the losers they lost."
"But to do that, you have to have willing participants that are honest brokers," he explained. "And we're just not seeing this right now. You know, every court case or filing has been rejected by the courts. And so any fraud claims, any security claims, any sorts of things along those lines, we're just not seeing supporting evidence."


crooksandliars--2020-12-06--Spiraling Rudy Giuliani Desperately Claims Election Fraud Was Coordinated By 'Somebody In Washington

Spiraling Rudy Giuliani Desperately Claims Election Fraud Was Coordinated By 'Somebody In Washington'

Rudy Giuliani , an attorney for President Donald Trump 's campaign , on Sunday alleged that `` somebody in Washington '' had coordinated theft of the 2020 election .
The president 's lawyer made the remarks during an appearance on Fox News with host Maria Bartiromo .
`` Each one of [ the election irregularities ] has in one degree or another almost the same pattern of activity , '' Giuliani explained .
`` This was a pattern that was set by somebody in Washington because everybody else carried it out exactly in the same way .
And they did @ @ @ @ @ @ @ did n't do it everywhere . ''
`` So you think somebody in Washington directed this , '' Bartiromo said .
`` Who did this ?
That would suggest this is organized , developed .
Who is in charge , who directed this ? ''
`` I have no idea , '' Giuliani admitted .
`` I mean , I do n't know who was in charge of it .
All I can tell you is it looks like a very well planned , very well executed situation . ''
Despite Giuliani 's @ @ @ @ @ @ @ that there is no evidence of widespread election fraud .

Rudy Giuliani, an attorney for President Donald Trump's campaign, on Sunday alleged that "somebody in Washington" had coordinated theft of the 2020 election.
The president's lawyer made the remarks during an appearance on Fox News with host Maria Bartiromo.
"Each one of [the election irregularities] has in one degree or another almost the same pattern of activity," Giuliani explained. "This was a pattern that was set by somebody in Washington because everybody else carried it out exactly in the same way. And they did it in the crooked cities. They didn't do it everywhere."
"So you think somebody in Washington directed this," Bartiromo said. "Who did this? That would suggest this is organized, developed. Who is in charge, who directed this?"
"I have no idea," Giuliani admitted. "I mean, I don't know who was in charge of it. All I can tell you is it looks like a very well planned, very well executed situation."
Despite Giuliani's assertion, federal government officials have said that there is no evidence of widespread election fraud.


crooksandliars--2020-12-06--Kayleigh McEnany Accidentally Admits Joe Biden Will Be Next President

White House Press Secretary Kayleigh on Sunday appeared to acknowledge that President-elect Joe Biden will be the next president of @ @ @ @ @ an appearance on Fox & Friends , McEnany argued that Trump voters must `` overwhelm @ @ @ @ @ their ballots on election day in the Georgia runoff election , which will determine control @ @ @ @ @ McEnany warned voters that Vice President-elect Kamala Harris will be the `` deciding vote '' @ @ @ @ @ Republicans lose both seats in the upcoming election .
`` If we lose these two @ @ @ @ @ casting the deciding vote in this country for our government ? ''
McEnany said .
@ @ @ @ @ Harris . ''
As Vice President , Harris will have the power to break tie @ @ @ @ @ .

White House Press Secretary Kayleigh on Sunday appeared to acknowledge that President-elect Joe Biden will be the next president of the United States.
During an appearance on Fox & Friends, McEnany argued that Trump voters must "overwhelm the system" by casting their ballots on election day in the Georgia runoff election, which will determine control of the U.S. Senate.
McEnany warned voters that Vice President-elect Kamala Harris will be the "deciding vote" in the U.S. Senate if Republicans lose both seats in the upcoming election.
"If we lose these two senate seats, guess whose casting the deciding vote in this country for our government?" McEnany said. "It will be Kamala Harris."
As Vice President, Harris will have the power to break tie votes in the U.S. Senate.


crooksandliars--2020-12-06--Lara Trump Straight Up Asks Brian Kemp For Quid Pro Quo: 'It Would Be Nice If He Reciprocated'

Lara Trump , an adviser for President Donald Trump 's campaign , over the weekend suggested that the president expects a quid pro quo from Georgia Gov .
Brian Kemp ( R ) to overturn the election in his state .
Lara Trump made the remarks during a Saturday appearance on Fox News after the president held a rally for the Senate runoff elections in Georgia .
`` Gov .
Kemp owes his position , quite frankly , to Donald Trump , '' Lara Trump opined .
`` You know , it would be nice he reciprocated in some way @ @ @ @ @ @ @ this goes the way we know it went for the president but for the American people .
I mean , he owes it to all of us to do the right thing here . ''
`` I can see why the president is a little annoyed with the way he 's seen things go there , '' she said .
`` We 'd all like to know what happened in the state of Georgia , a typically very red state .
I do n't think anybody believes that Joe Biden won the state @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Donald Trump won the state of Georgia , '' the president 's daughter-in-law added .
`` We know he won this election in a landslide .
And we 're going to prove that very , very soon . ''
Earlier this year , President Donald Trump was impeached after being accused of offering a quid pro quo to Ukraine 's president in exchange for damaging information about then-candidate Joe Biden .

Lara Trump, an adviser for President Donald Trump's campaign, over the weekend suggested that the president expects a quid pro quo from Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp (R) to overturn the election in his state.
Lara Trump made the remarks during a Saturday appearance on Fox News after the president held a rally for the Senate runoff elections in Georgia.
"Gov. Kemp owes his position, quite frankly, to Donald Trump," Lara Trump opined. "You know, it would be nice he reciprocated in some way, not just to make sure that this goes the way we know it went for the president but for the American people. I mean, he owes it to all of us to do the right thing here."
"I can see why the president is a little annoyed with the way he's seen things go there," she said. "We'd all like to know what happened in the state of Georgia, a typically very red state. I don't think anybody believes that Joe Biden won the state of Georgia."
"We know Donald Trump won the state of Georgia," the president's daughter-in-law added. "We know he won this election in a landslide. And we're going to prove that very, very soon."
Earlier this year, President Donald Trump was impeached after being accused of offering a quid pro quo to Ukraine's president in exchange for damaging information about then-candidate Joe Biden.


crooksandliars--2020-12-06--Subject Of Trump 'Pardon-for-Pals' Scheme Has Apparently Been Revealed, But Mysteries Remain

In the last two weeks , Donald Trump has granted an all-purpose pardon to Michael Flynn , and is reported to be preparing preemptive pardons for Rudy Giuliani , himself , and everyone in his extended crime family .
But actually , that ’ s only the start .
Trump is reportedly considering handing out his literal get out of jail free cards to scores of campaign staffers and White House aides to absolve them for their participation in his four-year campaign of extortion , fraud , and every point along the sedition to treason highway .
None of this @ @ @ @ @ @ @ thoroughly Trump has demonstrated his willingness to hand pardons to a top ten list of the nation ’ s most corrupt .
On Tuesday , The New York Times reported that the Department of Justice was investigating a bribery scheme in which pardons were potentially being offered up in exchange for cold hard cash .
That issue is likely connected to the reason behind why the White House liaison to the DOJ has been kicked out of the building .
While the news that Trump was angling to pardon someone for dollars generated @ @ @ @ @ @ @ those indicted by the Mueller investigation , details from the court filing suggested that the name might be someone unconnected .
Now there seems to be both a potential candidate to fill in the blanks on that document , as well as more information in what appears to be a widening investigation into the pardon scheme .
As The New York Times reports , over the summer the DOJ looked into a scheme that involved top GOP fundraiser Elliott Broidy and Jared Kushner ’ s attorney , Abbe Lowell .
The subject of @ @ @ @ @ @ @ a psychologist ( hopefully , former psychologist ) who was slapped with a 30-month sentence after being convicted of tax evasion .
Seeing that Trump , as part of his Pardons for Pals program , has already handed out passes for tax fraud , money laundering , campaign finance fraud , mail fraud , securities fraud , and premeditated murder … this seems completely in his wheelhouse .
The problem appears to be that psychologist wasn ’ t one of Trump ’ s pals , but more a friend of a friend , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ developer Sanford Diller .
Diller apparently offered to make a “ substantial ” donation in exchange for popping his friend from the pen .
However , since Diller died in 2018 , it appears that the investigation may not be coming right on top of the crime .
The psychologist in question is Hugh Baras who was convicted in 2014 on five counts of tax evasion .
After several years of appeals , Baras finally went off to prison where , after serving just over two years , he was actually released in @ @ @ @ @ @ @ as it might be to everyone hoping that someone with a higher profile name was cutting Trump a seven figure check for a free pass , the truth is that most of the people who played a prominent role in Trump ’ s campaign have either already been pardoned , or have been excused from most of their prison sentence because of COVID-19 fears .
However , just because the source of the bribe was someone now dead , and the subject of the bribe was now someone who has been released , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ ’ t a bribe .
It also doesn ’ t make it less interesting that the DOJ is suddenly hot on the heels of a crime that apparently occurred some time before 2018 .
What ’ s left to see is just how far the scheme proceeded .
Yes , Baras served out his time behind bars without getting a wave of Trump ’ s magic Sharpie .
But did that happen because someone at some level said no , or was it because Broidy and Lowell had not managed to collect a @ @ @ @ @ @ @ many other White House residents knew about the negotiations ?
Finally , it ’ s worth a reminder that Broidy was once the deputy finance chairman of the RNC—just like former Trump attorney Michael Cohen .
Broidy had to give up that seat when he was caught handing $ 1.6 million to a former Playboy model who became pregnant during an affair .
However , even though Broidy took the fall , there have been rumors from the beginning that the money was the only thing he actually slipped to the model .
@ @ @ @ @ @ @ , the revelation of Broidy ’ s supposed affair came only months after the news leaked that Trump had sent $ 130,000 to a pair of adult entertainment stars who were not pregnant .
And the payments to the model were made using the same NDA and the same false names as the payments Trump made to Stormy Daniels .
Oh , and the payments were also routed through Michael Cohen .
What did reporter Paul Campos say at the time ?
So don ’ t think of this as a bribery scheme @ @ @ @ @ @ @ … think of it as yet another reason why Elliot Broidy might want to explain a few things .

In the last two weeks, Donald Trump has granted an all-purpose pardon to Michael Flynn, and is reported to be preparing preemptive pardons for Rudy Giuliani, himself, and everyone in his extended crime family. But actually, that’s only the start. Trump is reportedly considering handing out his literal get out of jail free cards to scores of campaign staffers and White House aides to absolve them for their participation in his four-year campaign of extortion, fraud, and every point along the sedition to treason highway. None of this should be that shocking, considering how thoroughly Trump has demonstrated his willingness to hand pardons to a top ten list of the nation’s most corrupt.
On Tuesday, The New York Times reported that the Department of Justice was investigating a bribery scheme in which pardons were potentially being offered up in exchange for cold hard cash. That issue is likely connected to the reason behind why the White House liaison to the DOJ has been kicked out of the building. While the news that Trump was angling to pardon someone for dollars generated an immediate search through the list of those indicted by the Mueller investigation, details from the court filing suggested that the name might be someone unconnected.
Now there seems to be both a potential candidate to fill in the blanks on that document, as well as more information in what appears to be a widening investigation into the pardon scheme.
As The New York Times reports, over the summer the DOJ looked into a scheme that involved top GOP fundraiser Elliott Broidy and Jared Kushner’s attorney, Abbe Lowell. The subject of their pardon for cash appears to be a psychologist (hopefully, former psychologist) who was slapped with a 30-month sentence after being convicted of tax evasion. Seeing that Trump, as part of his Pardons for Pals program, has already handed out passes for tax fraud, money laundering, campaign finance fraud, mail fraud, securities fraud, and premeditated murder … this seems completely in his wheelhouse.
The problem appears to be that psychologist wasn’t one of Trump’s pals, but more a friend of a friend, in this case fellow billionaire real estate developer Sanford Diller. Diller apparently offered to make a “substantial” donation in exchange for popping his friend from the pen. However, since Diller died in 2018, it appears that the investigation may not be coming right on top of the crime.
The psychologist in question is Hugh Baras who was convicted in 2014 on five counts of tax evasion. After several years of appeals, Baras finally went off to prison where, after serving just over two years, he was actually released in August of 2019.
So … disappointing as it might be to everyone hoping that someone with a higher profile name was cutting Trump a seven figure check for a free pass, the truth is that most of the people who played a prominent role in Trump’s campaign have either already been pardoned, or have been excused from most of their prison sentence because of COVID-19 fears.
However, just because the source of the bribe was someone now dead, and the subject of the bribe was now someone who has been released, that doesn’t mean it wasn’t a bribe. It also doesn’t make it less interesting that the DOJ is suddenly hot on the heels of a crime that apparently occurred some time before 2018.
What’s left to see is just how far the scheme proceeded. Yes, Baras served out his time behind bars without getting a wave of Trump’s magic Sharpie. But did that happen because someone at some level said no, or was it because Broidy and Lowell had not managed to collect a check before Diller passed on? How many other White House residents knew about the negotiations?
Finally, it’s worth a reminder that Broidy was once the deputy finance chairman of the RNC—just like former Trump attorney Michael Cohen. Broidy had to give up that seat when he was caught handing $1.6 million to a former Playboy model who became pregnant during an affair. However, even though Broidy took the fall, there have been rumors from the beginning that the money was the only thing he actually slipped to the model.
As New York Magazine reported in 2018, the revelation of Broidy’s supposed affair came only months after the news leaked that Trump had sent $130,000 to a pair of adult entertainment stars who were not pregnant. And the payments to the model were made using the same NDA and the same false names as the payments Trump made to Stormy Daniels. Oh, and the payments were also routed through Michael Cohen. What did reporter Paul Campos say at the time?
It is still just a hypothesis, but, I would argue, it fits more comfortably with what we know about the various players than the reported version of events: Donald Trump, not Elliott Broidy, had an affair with Shera Bechard. Bechard hired Keith Davidson, who had negotiated both Playboy playmate Karen McDougal’s deal with the National Enquirer and Stormy Daniels’s NDA with Trump. Davidson called Cohen, and the two of them negotiated a $1.6 million payment to Bechard.
So don’t think of this as a bribery scheme that fizzled out when it reached Broidy … think of it as yet another reason why Elliot Broidy might want to explain a few things.
Republished with permission from Daily Kos.


crooksandliars--2020-12-06--Chris Wallace Scolds HHS Secretary Alex Azar On COVID: 'A Massive Failure By President Trump'

Fox News host Chris Wallace on Sunday grilled Health and Human Services ( HHS ) Secretary Alex Azar after polls show that Americans do not trust a COVID-19 vaccine that has been rushed through the approval process by the Trump administration .
During an interview with Azar on Fox News Sunday , Wallace noted that 40 % of Americans have told pollsters that they are reluctant to get the vaccine .
`` One of the reasons is because concern about politics , '' Wallace explained .
`` Why not stop the politics and let the scientists do their jobs ?
@ @ @ @ @ @ @ that he had not prevented scientists from making sure the vaccine is safe .
Wallace interrupted : `` But you 've got the president tweeting that somehow the decision on when to release the vaccine was an effort to defeat him in the election .
You 've got the White House chief of staff calling in the FDA commissioner and say let 's get going faster . ''
`` You may be letting the scientist do their job but people in the White House do n't appear to be , '' the Fox @ @ @ @ @ @ @ people would have `` positive experiences '' with the vaccine , which he said would drive public acceptance .
Wallace went on to point out that the U.S. is now seeing record hospitalizations and deaths from COVID-19 .
`` Secretary Azar , is n't this the result of a massive failure by President Trump and his administration ? ''
Wallace asked .
Azar responded by blaming the crisis on `` behavior and cold weather . ''
Wallace shot back with a reminder that Trump had undermined his own officials when they tried to @ @ @ @ @ @ @ `` If President Trump had worn a mask then and urged everyone to wear a mask then -- back in April -- the way Joe Biden is right now , would n't we be in much better shape ? ''
the Fox News host pressed .
`` I welcome Vice President Biden to the club , '' Azar said .

Fox News host Chris Wallace on Sunday grilled Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Alex Azar after polls show that Americans do not trust a COVID-19 vaccine that has been rushed through the approval process by the Trump administration.
During an interview with Azar on Fox News Sunday, Wallace noted that 40% of Americans have told pollsters that they are reluctant to get the vaccine.
"One of the reasons is because concern about politics," Wallace explained. "Why not stop the politics and let the scientists do their jobs?"
For his part, Azar insisted that he had not prevented scientists from making sure the vaccine is safe.
Wallace interrupted: "But you've got the president tweeting that somehow the decision on when to release the vaccine was an effort to defeat him in the election. You've got the White House chief of staff calling in the FDA commissioner and say let's get going faster."
"You may be letting the scientist do their job but people in the White House don't appear to be," the Fox News host noted.
Azar vowed that people would have "positive experiences" with the vaccine, which he said would drive public acceptance.
Wallace went on to point out that the U.S. is now seeing record hospitalizations and deaths from COVID-19.
"Secretary Azar, isn't this the result of a massive failure by President Trump and his administration?" Wallace asked.
Azar responded by blaming the crisis on "behavior and cold weather."
Wallace shot back with a reminder that Trump had undermined his own officials when they tried to promote the use of face masks.
"If President Trump had worn a mask then and urged everyone to wear a mask then -- back in April -- the way Joe Biden is right now, wouldn't we be in much better shape?" the Fox News host pressed.
"I welcome Vice President Biden to the club," Azar said.
"He's president-elect, sir," Wallace observed.


crooksandliars--2020-12-06--Oregon Doctor Loses His License Over Rufusal To Wear Mask

Dr. Steven LaTulippe refused to wear a mask himself or had any of his staff at his clinic wear one @ @ @ @ @ patients not to self-isolate if they showed symptoms or get tested .
He dismissed the @ @ @ @ @ the `` common cold . ''
The medical license of an Oregon doctor who refused @ @ @ @ @ despite the ongoing coronavirus pandemic has been revoked weeks after a video surfaced of him @ @ @ @ @ common cold . ''
Steven LaTulippe made the comments Nov. 7 during a `` Stop @ @ @ @ @ support of President Donald Trump outside the State Capitol in Salem .
`` I want @ @ @ @ @ corona mania , '' LaTulippe said in a video posted on YouTube by the political @ @ @ @ @ Less than a month later , on Dec. 3 , the Oregon Medical Board issued @ @ @ @ @ that LaTulippe `` engaged in unprofessional conduct or dishonorable conduct , '' online records show @

Dr. Steven LaTulippe refused to wear a mask himself or had any of his staff at his clinic wear one. He also allegedly told patients not to self-isolate if they showed symptoms or get tested. He dismissed the virus as no worse than the "common cold."
Source: NBC News
The medical license of an Oregon doctor who refused to wear a face mask despite the ongoing coronavirus pandemic has been revoked weeks after a video surfaced of him dismissing Covid-19 as a "common cold."
Steven LaTulippe made the comments Nov. 7 during a "Stop the Steal" rally in support of President Donald Trump outside the State Capitol in Salem.
"I want to expose what I call corona mania," LaTulippe said in a video posted on YouTube by the political group Multnomah County Republicans.
Less than a month later, on Dec. 3, the Oregon Medical Board issued an emergency suspension after finding that LaTulippe "engaged in unprofessional conduct or dishonorable conduct," online records show.


crooksandliars--2020-12-07--Armed 'Stop The Steal' Idiots Show Up At Home Of Michigan Secretary Of State

So you 're planning a nice evening at home with your four-year-old , watching `` How The Grinch Stole Christmas @ @ @ @ @ decorations .
And then Trump morons with guns show up .
I keep saying that @ @ @ @ @ defund public education is really paying off , as hundreds of thousand gullible fools believe @ @ @ @ @ falls out of Donald Trump 's mouth .
And to believe what he says of @ @ @ @ @ reality , and assume that every elected official in the country and every news organization @ @ @ @ @ to rob our hero of his rightful second term !
Idiocracy !
How can you @ @ @ @ @ , they 've had a head start , what with anti-vaxxer propaganda , the Protocols @ @ @ @ @ birther conspiracies , and asssorted other nonsense -- not to mention years of mainlining Fox @ @ @ @ @ to the harder stuff like Newsmax and OAN .
They 're well primed to take @ @ @ @ @ take it they did :

So you're planning a nice evening at home with your four-year-old, watching "How The Grinch Stole Christmas" and putting up Christmas decorations. And then Trump morons with guns show up.
I keep saying that the 40-year Republican push to defund public education is really paying off, as hundreds of thousand gullible fools believe every absurd Dadaist statement that falls out of Donald Trump's mouth. And to believe what he says of course requires you to suspend reality, and assume that every elected official in the country and every news organization is in on the scam to rob our hero of his rightful second term! Idiocracy!
How can you be that stupid? Well, they've had a head start, what with anti-vaxxer propaganda, the Protocols of Zion, the Obama birther conspiracies, and asssorted other nonsense -- not to mention years of mainlining Fox News before they moved on to the harder stuff like Newsmax and OAN. They're well primed to take the fascist bait.
And take it they did:
“Dozens of armed individuals” showed up to Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson’s home last night, shouting “Stop The Steal!” pic.twitter.com/rZhPK5hbsv — philip lewis (@Phil_Lewis_) December 7, 2020
Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson says protesters gathered in front of her home as she and her 4-year-old son were finishing putting up Christmas decorations.
"They targeted me in my role as Michigan's Chief Election Officer." https://t.co/ZDdyBC4VE8 — Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) December 7, 2020
Michigan AG Dana Nessel: "Anyone can air legitimate grievances to Secretary Benson's office ... but terrorizing children and families at their own homes is not activism. This disturbing behavior masquerading as protest should be called out for what it is and roundly condemned." — Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) December 7, 2020


crooksandliars--2020-12-07--Pathetic GA Senator Purdue Skips Televised Debate With Jon Ossoff

Senator David Purdue of Georgia is a pathetic , weak , terrified man .
How pathetic is he , you @ @ @ @ @ even show up to debate Jon Ossoff on Sunday .
No reason - he is @ @ @ @ @ n't some sort of emergency that kept him .
He just ... did n't feel @ @ @ @ @ Jon Ossoff talked to the moderators and the viewers by himself .
And he was @ @ @ @ @ it opened : An empty podium .
Pretty appropriate since Senator Purdue is an empty @ @ @ @ @ too weak to even show up for the debate , why should be sent back @ @ @ @ @ term ?
Let him go back to shady stock deals and insider trading .
Prison @ @ @ @ @ anyhow .

Senator David Purdue of Georgia is a pathetic, weak, terrified man. How pathetic is he, you ask? He REFUSED to even show up to debate Jon Ossoff on Sunday. No reason - he isn't sick and there wasn't some sort of emergency that kept him. He just...didn't feel like it.
So, Jon Ossoff talked to the moderators and the viewers by himself. And he was FABULOUS.
Here is how it opened:
They just introduced David Perdue's empty podium at the debate.
This is quite the visual. pic.twitter.com/nc8uD46oK0 — Parker Butler (@parkerbutler10) December 6, 2020
An empty podium. Pretty appropriate since Senator Purdue is an empty suit.
Jon Ossoff shared, simply, this.
🐔 — Jon Ossoff (@ossoff) December 6, 2020
Twitter also had thoughts:
I take back what I tweeted about the optics of this a couple of weeks ago. This is hilarious, and it expresses perfectly Perdue's political delinquency. — Matt Bell (@ProfMattBell) December 6, 2020
How could Perdue be too busy, the market is closed today. — Chocolate Giddyup (@Republicant17) December 6, 2020
.@ossoff is ABSOLUTELY killing at his (non) debate tonight.
Why is it a NON debate? Because David Purdue is a pussy who can't show up.#Georgia #GADebate #SenateRunoff #Ossoff — Red (@Redpainter1) December 6, 2020
Purdue refuses to debate Osoff again?
Looks like he still doesn't have a good explanation for those very profitable stock trades he's made since taking office and doesn't want to discuss hospitals being forced to close during a pandemic. — Annie Gabston-Howell- (@AnnieGabstonH) December 6, 2020
I like this guy!! pic.twitter.com/HzhE2qTflS — Leslie Jones 🦋 (@Lesdoggg) November 29, 2020
If Purdue is too weak to even show up for the debate, why should be sent back to the Senate for another term? Let him go back to shady stock deals and insider trading. Prison may be in his future anyhow.


crooksandliars--2020-12-07--Dems Must Start Throwing GOP 'Radical Liberal' Fearmongering Over 'Socialism' Back In Their Faces

I 'm so sick of watching Democrats allowing Republicans attack us with fearmongering over the left of the party wanting to destroy America with `` Socialism '' when most of the idiots watching them do n't even know what it means .
Case in point , this Sunday 's debate for the Georgia senate runoff between the richest woman in the United States Senate , Kelly Loeffler , and her opponent , Raphael Warnock .
Loeffler did her best to try to paint herself as just some working class Joe , ignoring the fact that that 's no longer the @ @ @ @ @ @ @ the most robotic performances I 've ever seen during a debate , which did not go unnoticed on Twitter : The other thing Loeffler managed to accomplish during the debate , no matter how robotic her performance , was to repeat the phrases `` radical liberal '' and `` socialism '' over and over again in her responses to almost every single question she was asked .
In the clip above she managed to work it in in response to being questioned about voter suppression .
Democrats had better start learning how to @ @ @ @ @ @ @ do n't want to allow Republicans to continue to red bait average Americans into voting against their own economic interests in response to this nonsense .
Every time one of these Republicans or right wing pundits fearmongers over `` creeping socialism '' and `` big gubmit '' coming to take over your life and get rid of your freedoms , you need to counter them with this .
Since you 're opposed to socialism , when do you want to get rid of Social Security ?
When do you want to get rid @ @ @ @ @ @ @ you want to abolish the Veterans Administration ?
When do you want to abolish the public school system ?
When would you like to disband our fire departments and our police departments ?
And for good measure , ask them how low they 'd like minimum wage to go , or if we should even have one at all .
It 's long past time our corporate media starts holding these gaslighting Republicans ' feet to the fire with the specifics over what they 've been trying to scare every American about and @ @ @ @ @ @ @ as well .
Americans actually LIKE these programs they 've all been trying to terrorize us over since the days of Reagan .

I'm so sick of watching Democrats allowing Republicans attack us with fearmongering over the left of the party wanting to destroy America with "Socialism" when most of the idiots watching them don't even know what it means. Case in point, this Sunday's debate for the Georgia senate runoff between the richest woman in the United States Senate, Kelly Loeffler, and her opponent, Raphael Warnock.
Loeffler did her best to try to paint herself as just some working class Joe, ignoring the fact that that's no longer the case now, and gave one of the most robotic performances I've ever seen during a debate, which did not go unnoticed on Twitter:
Loeffler is an actual human? Are we sure? — Lisa Evans (@LisaWillNotLose) December 7, 2020
I never thought I'd ever see a GOP candidate more robotic than Mike Pence at a debate. Then came Kelly Loeffler. #GASen — Niles Edward Francis (@NilesGApol) December 7, 2020
The other thing Loeffler managed to accomplish during the debate, no matter how robotic her performance, was to repeat the phrases "radical liberal" and "socialism" over and over again in her responses to almost every single question she was asked. In the clip above she managed to work it in in response to being questioned about voter suppression.
Democrats had better start learning how to fight back against this crap if we don't want to allow Republicans to continue to red bait average Americans into voting against their own economic interests in response to this nonsense.
Every time one of these Republicans or right wing pundits fearmongers over "creeping socialism" and "big gubmit" coming to take over your life and get rid of your freedoms, you need to counter them with this.
Since you're opposed to socialism, when do you want to get rid of Social Security?
When do you want to get rid of Medicare and Medicaid?
When do you want to abolish the Veterans Administration?
When do you want to abolish the public school system?
When would you like to disband our fire departments and our police departments?
And for good measure, ask them how low they'd like minimum wage to go, or if we should even have one at all.
It's long past time our corporate media starts holding these gaslighting Republicans' feet to the fire with the specifics over what they've been trying to scare every American about and every Democrat needs to do the same as well. Americans actually LIKE these programs they've all been trying to terrorize us over since the days of Reagan.
I am proud to be a "Radical Liberal" pic.twitter.com/VonrRotjjo — Jamie Carter - #GeorgiaOnMyMind (@JCTheResistance) December 7, 2020


crooksandliars--2020-12-07--Trump Attempts To Insult Fox News By Claiming ‘Kneeling’ Football Players Are ‘Better’ To Watch

President Donald Trump on Sunday attempted to lob and insult at Fox News by declaring that football players protesting systemic @ @ @ @ @ than the network .
“ @ FoxNews daytime is not watchable , ” Trump complained @ @ @ @ @ with CNN & MSDNC .
Check out @ OANN , @ newsmax and others that @ @ @ @ @ ” “ Even a boring football game , kneeling and all , is better !
@ @ @ @ @ his presidency , Trump has attacked football players — like Colin Kaepernick — who have @ @ @ @ @ to protest systemic racism in the United States .
Trump ’ s remarks came after @ @ @ @ @ called out the president for a “ massive failure ” in his handling of the @ @ @

President Donald Trump on Sunday attempted to lob and insult at Fox News by declaring that football players protesting systemic racism are “better” than the network.
“@FoxNews daytime is not watchable,” Trump complained. “In a class with CNN & MSDNC. Check out @OANN, @newsmax and others that are picking up the slack.”
“Even a boring football game, kneeling and all, is better!” he added.
.@FoxNews daytime is not watchable. In a class with CNN & MSDNC. Check out @OANN, @newsmax and others that are picking up the slack. Even a boring football game, kneeling and all, is better! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 6, 2020
Throughout his presidency, Trump has attacked football players — like Colin Kaepernick — who have kneeled during the national anthem to protest systemic racism in the United States.
Trump’s remarks came after Fox News host Chris Wallace called out the president for a “massive failure” in his handling of the COVID-19 pandemic.


crooksandliars--2020-12-07--DeSantis Sends Cops To Raid COVID Data Scientist's Home At Gunpoint

Dr. Rebekah Jones built her own COVID-19 dashboard to track Florida infections and deaths after being fired for accurately reporting @ @ @ @ @ her job with the state .
Since then , she 's been reporting COVID stats @ @ @ @ @ own hardware in her own home .
Until today .
( WARNING : The video @ @ @ @ @ triggering ) : Her resolve to get accurate data out to the public is patriotic @ @ @ @ @ thugs need to go to jail for this kind of behavior .
It 's time @ @ @ @ @ civil liberties organizations to leap to her defense .
And for all the Republicans responsible @ @ @ @ @ to every election/mask/COVID denier out there -- to pay the legal price for their thuggery @ @ @ @ @ .
You think the raid was related to the exposé about how he lied to @ @ @ @ @ the virus ?
Hmmm .

Dr. Rebekah Jones built her own COVID-19 dashboard to track Florida infections and deaths after being fired for accurately reporting that data as part of her job with the state.
Since then, she's been reporting COVID stats on her own from her own hardware in her own home. Until today. (WARNING: The video in her first tweet is triggering):
1/
There will be no update today.
At 8:30 am this morning, state police came into my house and took all my hardware and tech.
They were serving a warrant on my computer after DOH filed a complaint.
They pointed a gun in my face. They pointed guns at my kids.. pic.twitter.com/DE2QfOmtPU — Rebekah Jones (@GeoRebekah) December 7, 2020
2/
They took my phone and the computer I use every day to post the case numbers in Florida, and school cases for the entire country.
They took evidence of corruption at the state level.
They claimed it was about a security breach.
This was DeSantis.
He sent the gestapo. — Rebekah Jones (@GeoRebekah) December 7, 2020
This is what happens to scientists who do their job honestly.
This is what happens to people who speak truth to power.
I tell them my husband and my two children are upstairs... and THEN one of them draws his gun.
On my children.
This is Desantis' Florida. — Rebekah Jones (@GeoRebekah) December 7, 2020
If Desantis thought pointing a gun in my face was a good way to get me to shut up, he's about to learn just how wrong he was.
I'll have a new computer tomorrow.
And then I'm going to get back to work.
If you want to help, my website is still at https://t.co/JbQtrVbRuv — Rebekah Jones (@GeoRebekah) December 7, 2020
Her resolve to get accurate data out to the public is patriotic. Ron DeSantis and his thugs need to go to jail for this kind of behavior. It's time for the ACLU and other civil liberties organizations to leap to her defense. And for all the Republicans responsible -- from Trump to DeSantis to every election/mask/COVID denier out there -- to pay the legal price for their thuggery and disregard for individual rights.
You think the raid was related to the exposé about how he lied to Floridians about the seriousness of the virus? Hmmm.


crooksandliars--2020-12-07--Rudy Celebrates The Wrong Ruling For The Wrong Reasons

On Friday , Rudy Giuliani was exuberantly tweeting about a `` major victory '' when a Michigan judge ordered the ballots to be reviewed and preserved from 22 Dominion tabulation machines .
But he could n't have been more wrong if he tried .
Rudy Giuliani hailed a ruling in a Michigan court on Friday as a `` big win '' for Trump 's election team — except it was n't about the presidential contest but about a local marijuana measure instead .
A judge in Antrim County , Michigan ordered for ballots to be reviewed and preserved from 22 @ @ @ @ @ @ @ won by a single vote , the Detroit Free Press reported on Friday .
The order came after a voter had complained that the ballots were damaged during a recount causing the proposal to shift from a tie vote to passing by one vote .
Documents relating to the order were released on Saturday by the State Court Administrative Office , the Detroit Free Press reported .
Now , if the gentle reader were to play devil 's advocate , they might guess that Giuliani was hoping some flaw was found in the @ @ @ @ @ @ @ that state .
Except it wo n't because Trump had already won that county : The voter also alleges broader fraud in the Antrim election saying the `` tabulators were compromised '' and claiming that votes from Republican candidates were switched to Democratic ones , although this was not cited in the order .
The allegations come even though Trump beat Biden in Antrim County by nearly 4,000 votes .
Now how could Giuliani , who is supposed to be a top notch lawyer and super genius make so many blunders with just @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Giuliani , like the rest of Trump 's administration are actually incompetent boobs that only got the job because they were campaign donors , sycophants and/or just good butt kissers ?
Could it be that Giuliani is just an addled brained old fool ?
Or maybe he is confused and delirious due to COVID fever ?
No one , but Giuliani , would know and I doubt if even he would know .
But the fact is that it 's not going to reverse the election in Michigan and it 's not going @ @ @ @ @ @ @ going to be the next president in January .

On Friday, Rudy Giuliani was exuberantly tweeting about a "major victory" when a Michigan judge ordered the ballots to be reviewed and preserved from 22 Dominion tabulation machines. But he couldn't have been more wrong if he tried.
From the Business Insider:
Rudy Giuliani hailed a ruling in a Michigan court on Friday as a "big win" for Trump's election team — except it wasn't about the presidential contest but about a local marijuana measure instead. A judge in Antrim County, Michigan ordered for ballots to be reviewed and preserved from 22 tabulation machines after a marijuana proposal narrowly won by a single vote, the Detroit Free Press reported on Friday. The order came after a voter had complained that the ballots were damaged during a recount causing the proposal to shift from a tie vote to passing by one vote. Documents relating to the order were released on Saturday by the State Court Administrative Office, the Detroit Free Press reported.
Now, if the gentle reader were to play devil's advocate, they might guess that Giuliani was hoping some flaw was found in the machines to help reverse the election in that state. Except it won't because Trump had already won that county:
The voter also alleges broader fraud in the Antrim election saying the "tabulators were compromised" and claiming that votes from Republican candidates were switched to Democratic ones, although this was not cited in the order. The allegations come even though Trump beat Biden in Antrim County by nearly 4,000 votes.
Now how could Giuliani, who is supposed to be a top notch lawyer and super genius make so many blunders with just one tweet? Could it be that Giuliani, like the rest of Trump's administration are actually incompetent boobs that only got the job because they were campaign donors, sycophants and/or just good butt kissers? Could it be that Giuliani is just an addled brained old fool? Or maybe he is confused and delirious due to COVID fever?
No one, but Giuliani, would know and I doubt if even he would know.
But the fact is that it's not going to reverse the election in Michigan and it's not going to change the fact that Biden is going to be the next president in January.


crooksandliars--2020-12-07--Seditious Fox & Friends Host Continues To Pretend Trump Hasn't Lost The Election

Regardless of the number of losses Trump 's legal team continues to rack up in court , Fox & Friends weekend host Will Cain continues to push for state legislators to ignore the will of the voters and overturn the election results in swing states .
It 's bad enough Cain has been pushing this nonsense on his own show , but Howard Kurtz 's producers felt the need to allow Cain to push this seditious crap on this Sunday 's Media Buzz as well .
After whining that the media is somehow being too `` dismissive '' of Trump @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , and discussing the fact that even Bill Barr was n't willing to save Trump , how Trump 's threats to fire him after he committed the cardinal sin of admitting the truth , that there was no widespread voter fraud , and the election results are not going to be overturned , Kurtz asked Cain 's fellow guest Leslie Marshall whether Barr is suddenly `` a hero '' to the left .
Marshall rightfully pointed out that no , he just looked like he was finally doing his job , rather than @ @ @ @ @ @ @ also called what we 're witnessing from the right exactly what it is , `` which is the fairy tale phase , '' and told Kurtz someone finally needs to `` tell to emperor he 's naked . ''
Cain continued to push the notion that no one can `` conclusively '' say that the election was n't stolen , or that there was no voter fraud , citing public distrust in the results -- fueled by people like him , I might add -- as some sort of proof that something nefarious @ @ @ @ @ @ @ by playing footage of Rudy Giuliani telling Hannity that they `` do n't need the courts '' to win if they can push the state legislators into going along with their coup .
Then Marshall laid into all of them for continuing with this farce .
Leslie : Well , you know , to Will 's point , Will said there is , you know , let the evidence play out .
How many recounts does the state have to do ?
How many state attorney generals and governors or even Republicans , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ okay , I 've certified the election and my count and Joe Biden is the president-elect .
How many cases does the Trump administration have to lose ?
My count , I think it 's 41 out of 42 that have been put forth .
There is a point where you say , okay , the results are accurate .
You may not trust the media but now you 're not going to trust the courts ?
You are not going to trust every single person in the electoral process and every single @ @ @ @ @ @ @ California or red like Georgia ?
There is a point where at the end of the day where you have to say , okay , I have lost this .
It is time to move on and let the country move forward , because we are in a pandemic and constantly dragging the American people into this political fantasy at this point , if you will , is unhealthy on so many levels for this nation .
Obviously the answer to her question is that there is no number .
The right does @ @ @ @ @ @ @ these suits .
See for evidence the response from Cain , who , even after guest Kristen Soltis Anderson laid out in detail what a joke Trump 's legal team has been , had this to say about why the country should finally move on .
CAIN : I agree with something Leslie said .
There is a point at which we move on .
The president 's legal team as Kristen pointed out , does have to win .
They do have to make their case at some point .
And as @ @ @ @ @ @ @ tried to make this point as well this week on Fox & Friends , they seemed to be moving their case into the court of public opinion when it comes to state legislators , where they will find a lower burden of proof .
But make no mistake , you still have to make your case .
My point is that will not be deemed or not be concluded by the media .
It will not be the media that tells us when the case is over , when the process has concluded @ @ @ @ @ @ @ that the election is n't over , and to blithely claim there 's nothing wrong with state legislators overturning the will of the voters .
Cain and his fellow Trump enablers on Fox continue to be one of the most dangerous threats to what 's left of our democracy in America with rhetoric like this .

Regardless of the number of losses Trump's legal team continues to rack up in court, Fox & Friends weekend host Will Cain continues to push for state legislators to ignore the will of the voters and overturn the election results in swing states.
It's bad enough Cain has been pushing this nonsense on his own show, but Howard Kurtz's producers felt the need to allow Cain to push this seditious crap on this Sunday's Media Buzz as well.
After whining that the media is somehow being too "dismissive" of Trump's clown car of a legal team, and discussing the fact that even Bill Barr wasn't willing to save Trump, how Trump's threats to fire him after he committed the cardinal sin of admitting the truth, that there was no widespread voter fraud, and the election results are not going to be overturned, Kurtz asked Cain's fellow guest Leslie Marshall whether Barr is suddenly "a hero" to the left. Marshall rightfully pointed out that no, he just looked like he was finally doing his job, rather than acting like a Trump toadie.
She also called what we're witnessing from the right exactly what it is, "which is the fairy tale phase," and told Kurtz someone finally needs to "tell to emperor he's naked."
Cain continued to push the notion that no one can "conclusively" say that the election wasn't stolen, or that there was no voter fraud, citing public distrust in the results -- fueled by people like him, I might add -- as some sort of proof that something nefarious must have occurred. Kurtz followed up by playing footage of Rudy Giuliani telling Hannity that they "don't need the courts" to win if they can push the state legislators into going along with their coup. Then Marshall laid into all of them for continuing with this farce.
Leslie: Well, you know, to Will's point, Will said there is, you know, let the evidence play out. How many recounts does the state have to do? How many state attorney generals and governors or even Republicans, you know, have to say, okay, I've certified the election and my count and Joe Biden is the president-elect. How many cases does the Trump administration have to lose? My count, I think it's 41 out of 42 that have been put forth. There is a point where you say, okay, the results are accurate. You may not trust the media but now you're not going to trust the courts? You are not going to trust every single person in the electoral process and every single state, whether it's blue like California or red like Georgia? There is a point where at the end of the day where you have to say, okay, I have lost this. It is time to move on and let the country move forward, because we are in a pandemic and constantly dragging the American people into this political fantasy at this point, if you will, is unhealthy on so many levels for this nation.
Obviously the answer to her question is that there is no number. The right doesn't care if they ever stop filing these suits. See for evidence the response from Cain, who, even after guest Kristen Soltis Anderson laid out in detail what a joke Trump's legal team has been, had this to say about why the country should finally move on.
CAIN: I agree with something Leslie said. There is a point at which we move on. The president's legal team as Kristen pointed out, does have to win. They do have to make their case at some point. And as you point out, and I've tried to make this point as well this week on Fox & Friends, they seemed to be moving their case into the court of public opinion when it comes to state legislators, where they will find a lower burden of proof. But make no mistake, you still have to make your case. My point is that will not be deemed or not be concluded by the media. It will not be the media that tells us when the case is over, when the process has concluded.
Thus his excuse to dangerously pretend that the election isn't over, and to blithely claim there's nothing wrong with state legislators overturning the will of the voters. Cain and his fellow Trump enablers on Fox continue to be one of the most dangerous threats to what's left of our democracy in America with rhetoric like this.