crooksandliars--2020-03-21--Parents, Cut Yourself Some Slack On Screen Time Limits While You're Stuck At Home

As families hunker down during the coronavirus pandemic , many parents may wonder how much screen time they should let their kids have .
Brenna Hassinger-Das , a scholar of children and technology , shares one rule it ’ s OK to break , one rule parents can bend and a best practice worth upholding .
The American Academy of Pediatrics warns parents that letting children spend too much time watching TV shows or playing video games on any device can make them more anxious , reduce their ability to control impulses and disturb their sleep .
How much screen @ @ @ @ @ @ @ ’ group advises avoiding all screen time , aside from video chats , for babies and toddlers up to 18 months old , and sets gradually increasing limits after that .
Between the ages of 2 and 5 , for instance , the academy estimates that kids can safely get up to an hour of daily screen time , as long as their parents or caregivers join in .
It advises parents of kids 6 and up to consistently limit time spent using digital media and to make sure that screen time doesn @ @ @ @ @ @ @ .
As a mom , I have to admit that these recommendations often seem impossible to follow .
Personally , I believe that it ’ s worth breaking this particular rule .
I have found the evidence behind the academy ’ s specific limits not compelling enough to warrant firmly adhering the guidelines with my own child , who is now 6 years old .
Professionally , I ’ ve observed that the available data doesn ’ t definitively indicate whether screen time makes kids significantly worse off .
It only suggests that @ @ @ @ @ @ @ related to excessive screen time .
As I ’ m now teaching online and working from home , my child has been completing school lessons while relying on devices and spending more time than usual watching TV and playing games on our tablet .
Life is changing in my house – as it has no doubt in yours too .
As of now , there ’ s little compelling evidence backing up concerns over the dangers of screen time for preschoolers , in particular .
So when the parents of little kids let @ @ @ @ @ @ @ it possible for the grownups to make dinner or take a phone call , there ’ s no reason to beat themselves up .
Because the American Academy of Pediatrics doesn ’ t include video chatting as part of a child ’ s total screen time , it ’ s a good option to ramp up now , even for the very youngest .
And some research suggests that babies can learn new words when they engage in a video chat but not from prerecorded videos .
Video chatting can also help kids @ @ @ @ @ @ @ of their extended families whom they no longer can see in person .
Consider using it to read stories , play the Go Fish card game or just talk about the day ’ s events .
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Bend : Most restrictions on where and when to use devices The American Academy of Pediatrics also advises parents to create tech-free zones and common situations at home .
For example , the doctors ’ group says that kids , especially little ones , should never use digital media while eating or during any kind @ @ @ @ @ @ @ it might sometimes be worth bending this rule .
Whether they ’ re coming home from work outside the home , teleworking or simply spending the day taking care of their children , all parents need some time to decompress or tackle household chores .
During this time of uncertainty , it might be time to make even more realistic trade-offs .
Maybe it ’ s been a really tough day and having the whole family watch a TV show together at dinnertime will get you through it all without an argument .
@ @ @ @ @ @ @ this is not the new normal , just something unique to this unprecedented time .
However , one rule I consider worth keeping even when schools , day care centers and workplaces are shuttered is unplugging from tech at bedtime .
Sticking to bedtime routines is really important for young children – those 5 years old and younger .
Research indicates that kids with consistent bedtime routines do better in school and tend to behave better than their peers .
Studies suggest that even babies get less of the sleep they need if @ @ @ @ @ @ @ night .
The same goes for preschool-aged kids – those between 3 and 5 years old .
Using any digital device at bedtime is correlated with losing about half an hour of sleep for children who are between 8 and 17 years old .
Remember , if your kids sleep better , they ’ re likely to behave better too .
That will make it easier for your entire family to handle whatever happens next .
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Some of the old rules may no longer apply. shapecharge/Getty
Brenna Hassinger-Das, Pace University
As families hunker down during the coronavirus pandemic, many parents may wonder how much screen time they should let their kids have. Brenna Hassinger-Das, a scholar of children and technology, shares one rule it’s OK to break, one rule parents can bend and a best practice worth upholding.
1. Break: Previous daily screen time limits
The American Academy of Pediatrics warns parents that letting children spend too much time watching TV shows or playing video games on any device can make them more anxious, reduce their ability to control impulses and disturb their sleep. How much screen time varies by age. The doctors’ group advises avoiding all screen time, aside from video chats, for babies and toddlers up to 18 months old, and sets gradually increasing limits after that.
Between the ages of 2 and 5, for instance, the academy estimates that kids can safely get up to an hour of daily screen time, as long as their parents or caregivers join in. It advises parents of kids 6 and up to consistently limit time spent using digital media and to make sure that screen time doesn’t displace sleep or physical activity.
As a mom, I have to admit that these recommendations often seem impossible to follow. Personally, I believe that it’s worth breaking this particular rule. I have found the evidence behind the academy’s specific limits not compelling enough to warrant firmly adhering the guidelines with my own child, who is now 6 years old.
Professionally, I’ve observed that the available data doesn’t definitively indicate whether screen time makes kids significantly worse off. It only suggests that several behavioral and health problems might be related to excessive screen time. As I’m now teaching online and working from home, my child has been completing school lessons while relying on devices and spending more time than usual watching TV and playing games on our tablet. Life is changing in my house – as it has no doubt in yours too.
As of now, there’s little compelling evidence backing up concerns over the dangers of screen time for preschoolers, in particular. So when the parents of little kids let their child watch a video to make it possible for the grownups to make dinner or take a phone call, there’s no reason to beat themselves up.
Because the American Academy of Pediatrics doesn’t include video chatting as part of a child’s total screen time, it’s a good option to ramp up now, even for the very youngest. And some research suggests that babies can learn new words when they engage in a video chat but not from prerecorded videos. Video chatting can also help kids stay connected with their friends or members of their extended families whom they no longer can see in person. Consider using it to read stories, play the Go Fish card game or just talk about the day’s events.
2. Bend: Most restrictions on where and when to use devices
The American Academy of Pediatrics also advises parents to create tech-free zones and common situations at home. For example, the doctors’ group says that kids, especially little ones, should never use digital media while eating or during any kind of family gathering.
But I think it might sometimes be worth bending this rule.
Whether they’re coming home from work outside the home, teleworking or simply spending the day taking care of their children, all parents need some time to decompress or tackle household chores.
During this time of uncertainty, it might be time to make even more realistic trade-offs. Maybe it’s been a really tough day and having the whole family watch a TV show together at dinnertime will get you through it all without an argument. You can explain to your kids that this is not the new normal, just something unique to this unprecedented time.
3. Keep: Unplugged bedtime
However, one rule I consider worth keeping even when schools, day care centers and workplaces are shuttered is unplugging from tech at bedtime. Sticking to bedtime routines is really important for young children – those 5 years old and younger. Research indicates that kids with consistent bedtime routines do better in school and tend to behave better than their peers.
Studies suggest that even babies get less of the sleep they need if they interact with or watch screens at night. The same goes for preschool-aged kids – those between 3 and 5 years old.
Using any digital device at bedtime is correlated with losing about half an hour of sleep for children who are between 8 and 17 years old. Remember, if your kids sleep better, they’re likely to behave better too. That will make it easier for your entire family to handle whatever happens next.
[You need to understand the coronavirus pandemic, and we can help. Read our newsletter.]
Brenna Hassinger-Das, Assistant Professor of Psychology, Pace University
This article is republished from The Conversation under a Creative Commons license. Read the original article.


crooksandliars--2020-03-27--John Kerry Calls KY Rep. Massie 'Asshole' For Forcing Roll Call Vote On Stimulus

Too often do we see presidential candidates after they have lost an election being their true selves out in the public eye , and we pine for what could have been .
`` Why could n't they have been like THIS when they were campaigning ?
We would have had President X right now ! ''
This is Sec .
John Kerry 's turn to have that moment .
He absolutely eviscerated Kentucky Rep. Thomas Massie with one tweet after Massie forced the entire House of Reps to race back to Washington , DC for a roll call vote on @ @ @ @ @ @ @ allowing them to vote remotely .
Massie let loose a long-winded , 11-tweet-long thread about his alleged `` reasoning '' for endangering all of his colleagues and those with whom they came into contact on their trips back to DC for this grandstanding performance for his Koch Industry masters .
He objected to how we were going to pay for it this bill , apparently .
He did n't object , however , to the fact that some of his colleagues might pay for their in-person vote by catching the deadly virus .
@ @ @ @ @ @ @ reaction to this douchebaggery , but none so masterful as Sec .
Kerry 's - wherein he not only calls Massie an `` asshole , '' but he cops to agreeing with Trump for once on this particular assessment .
Bravo .
Bra-VOH , Sec .
Kerry - # Masshole should become the universal term for people like Massie .
That can be HIS legacy .
UPDATE : ( Karoli ) The stimulus bill passed , Donald Trump did not invite the person who worked hardest to make it happen to the signing @ @ @ @ @ @ @ is a petty little boy , and if anyone in that room has the coronavirus , they 're all gon na have it .
I 'm grateful Pelosi stayed away .

Too often do we see presidential candidates after they have lost an election being their true selves out in the public eye, and we pine for what could have been. "Why couldn't they have been like THIS when they were campaigning? We would have had President X right now!"
This is Sec. John Kerry's turn to have that moment. He absolutely eviscerated Kentucky Rep. Thomas Massie with one tweet after Massie forced the entire House of Reps to race back to Washington, DC for a roll call vote on the COVID-19 relief bill, instead of allowing them to vote remotely.
Massie let loose a long-winded, 11-tweet-long thread about his alleged "reasoning" for endangering all of his colleagues and those with whom they came into contact on their trips back to DC for this grandstanding performance for his Koch Industry masters. He objected to how we were going to pay for it this bill, apparently. He didn't object, however, to the fact that some of his colleagues might pay for their in-person vote by catching the deadly virus.
There was bipartisan disdain and fury in reaction to this douchebaggery, but none so masterful as Sec. Kerry's - wherein he not only calls Massie an "asshole," but he cops to agreeing with Trump for once on this particular assessment.
Breaking news: Congressman Massie has tested positive for being an asshole. He must be quarantined to prevent the spread of his massive stupidity. He's given new meaning to the term #Masshole. (Finally, something the president and I can agree on!) https://t.co/N1CNLPsZjc — John Kerry (@JohnKerry) March 27, 2020
Bravo. Bra-VOH, Sec. Kerry - #Masshole should become the universal term for people like Massie. That can be HIS legacy.
UPDATE: (Karoli) The stimulus bill passed, Donald Trump did not invite the person who worked hardest to make it happen to the signing ceremony (Speaker Pelosi) because he is a petty little boy, and if anyone in that room has the coronavirus, they're all gonna have it. I'm grateful Pelosi stayed away.


crooksandliars--2020-03-26--A Breathtaking 3 Million People Filed For Unemployment Last Week As Coronavirus Shutdowns Hit

The all-time record for new jobless claims in a single week was set in 1982 , with 695,000 new claims @ @ @ @ @ coronavirus shuttered many U.S. businesses , 3.28 million people filed for unemployment insurance .
That @ @ @ @ @ a record , it ’ s shattering it .
Reducing it to dust .
The @ @ @ @ @ people is sure to be much worse , former Obama Labor Department official Chris Lu @ @ @ @ @ that gig workers don ’ t get unemployment insurance and “ Some state UI systems @ @ @ @ @ isn ’ t over .
More things closed this week than last week , which @ @ @ @ @ s jobless claims report is likely to be terrible all over again .

The all-time record for new jobless claims in a single week was set in 1982, with 695,000 new claims. Last week, as coronavirus shuttered many U.S. businesses, 3.28 million people filed for unemployment insurance.
That’s not just breaking a record, it’s shattering it. Reducing it to dust.
BRACE YOURSELF. I have been a labor economist for a very long time and have never seen anything like this. Here are last week’s initial unemployment insurance (UI) claims. (1/n) pic.twitter.com/fWhljQF9ww — Heidi Shierholz (@hshierholz) March 26, 2020
The actual number of newly unemployed people is sure to be much worse, former Obama Labor Department official Chris Lu tweeted, for reasons including that gig workers don’t get unemployment insurance and “Some state UI systems have crashed.”
And this isn’t over. More things closed this week than last week, which means that next week’s jobless claims report is likely to be terrible all over again.
Posted with permission from Daily Kos.


crooksandliars--2020-03-26--Did Donald Trump Even Warn His Task Force About Easter Timeline?

Wow Trump 's press secretary gives the game away .
Again .
Missed Mensa by a Mile Brian Kilmeade at least asked the right question .
Did Trump even mention to his Coronavirus Task Force that `` Easter Timeline '' for `` Reopening the Economy '' thing he announced ?
KILMEADE : Stephanie , how real is this Easter date and how well- informed was the rest of the task force that the president was going to say that yesterday , that his goal was to open up by Easter ?
GRISHAM : You know , I do n't know @ @ @ @ @ @ @ she served up a whole lot of word salad to fill out the segment : I think that the president as he has been doing is very hopeful and wants to have a message of hope to the American people .
I think he would love it if we were opened up for business yesterday , but after the 15 days when we see the data come in , we 'll see where we 're at and I think the president will make his decision now , but he is hopeful and I @ @ @ @ @ @ @ who was just in quarantine for two weeks , it 's tough it 's tough and I imagine a lot of people want to try to get out there and get back to work , as long as they are social distancing .
So we 'll see what happens once the 15 days goes past and we 've got new data sets .
And then , she told a huge lie .
The president listens to his medical team and Dr. Fauci and listens to his task force and will make recommendations and @ @ @ @ @ @ @ you know what 's ADORABLE ?
The Fox News dot Com story on this interview does n't mention either Grisham not knowing if Trump informed the task force about Easter , or the lie about him `` listening '' to his medical team .
The task force is a TV prop for Trump to appear `` presidential . ''
The end .

Wow Trump's press secretary gives the game away. Again.
Missed Mensa by a Mile Brian Kilmeade at least asked the right question. Did Trump even mention to his Coronavirus Task Force that "Easter Timeline" for "Reopening the Economy" thing he announced?
Probably not.
KILMEADE: Stephanie, how real is this Easter date and how well- informed was the rest of the task force that the president was going to say that yesterday, that his goal was to open up by Easter? GRISHAM: You know, I don't know how well-informed they were.
And then she served up a whole lot of word salad to fill out the segment:
I think that the president as he has been doing is very hopeful and wants to have a message of hope to the American people. I think he would love it if we were opened up for business yesterday, but after the 15 days when we see the data come in, we'll see where we're at and I think the president will make his decision now, but he is hopeful and I will tell you something, as somebody who was just in quarantine for two weeks, it's tough it's tough and I imagine a lot of people want to try to get out there and get back to work, as long as they are social distancing. So we'll see what happens once the 15 days goes past and we've got new data sets.
And then, she told a huge lie.
The president listens to his medical team and Dr. Fauci and listens to his task force and will make recommendations and then ultimately the final decision.
And you know what's ADORABLE? The Fox News dot Com story on this interview doesn't mention either Grisham not knowing if Trump informed the task force about Easter, or the lie about him "listening" to his medical team.
The task force is a TV prop for Trump to appear "presidential." The end.


crooksandliars--2020-03-27--Fox And Friends Pretends Trump Is Sympathetic To NY's Need For Ventilators.

The bobos at Fox and Friends spent about two full minutes complaining that the COVID-19 economic relief bill was a `` Two-trillion-dollar slush fund '' because of relatively small , seemingly unrelated expenditures that got added .
Geraldo Rivera joined them and basically said , whatever , this is how the sausage is made , just get it done .
You start to question your sanity when you agree with Geraldo , but it does n't last long , because then he started minimizing the need for ventilators in NY .
Geraldo cites Dr. Deborah Birx ( who has lost @ @ @ @ @ @ @ to Trump ) saying there are still available hospital beds and ventilators in New York , as if those need to all be used up before they can ask for more .
As if predicting and planning are n't useful tools for fighting this pandemic .
As if jury-rigging single ventilators to work for multiple patients was a perfectly acceptable way to go .
When he starts waxing romantic about Trump 's approval ratings , and how we should all rally behind this `` wartime president , '' you 'll surely be reaching @ @ @ @ @ @ @ we have Ainsley Earhardt taking the cake with her obvious re-write of Trump 's horrible dismissal of Gov .
Andrew Cuomo 's plea for 30,000 ventilators .
EARHARDT : They 're all playing the blame game , and I was watching Sean Hannity interview the president last night , and the president said , `` Look , '' to Governor Cuomo , he said , `` Look , 30,000 ventilators ?
I would love to give you those , but some hospitals only have one . ''
He said , `` Do you @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , we 'll do our best , '' but he said , `` It 's complicated , it 's expensive to make , '' so , I agree with you , Geraldo , I think it 's not time to do the blame game .
Actually , Trump said , `` I do n't believe you need 40,000 or 30,000 ventilators .
You go into a hospital and they have two ventilators and all of a sudden the need 30,000 ventilators ? ''
THAT 'S what he said .
He did n't promise @ @ @ @ @ @ @ n't say they 're expensive .
He did n't say he 'd love to give Cuomo the ventilators .
He said he did not believe NY needed them .
Period .

The bobos at Fox and Friends spent about two full minutes complaining that the COVID-19 economic relief bill was a "Two-trillion-dollar slush fund" because of relatively small, seemingly unrelated expenditures that got added. Geraldo Rivera joined them and basically said, whatever, this is how the sausage is made, just get it done.
You start to question your sanity when you agree with Geraldo, but it doesn't last long, because then he started minimizing the need for ventilators in NY. Geraldo cites Dr. Deborah Birx (who has lost whatever credibility she had, now demurring to Trump) saying there are still available hospital beds and ventilators in New York, as if those need to all be used up before they can ask for more. As if predicting and planning aren't useful tools for fighting this pandemic. As if jury-rigging single ventilators to work for multiple patients was a perfectly acceptable way to go. When he starts waxing romantic about Trump's approval ratings, and how we should all rally behind this "wartime president," you'll surely be reaching for the barf bag.
Finally, we have Ainsley Earhardt taking the cake with her obvious re-write of Trump's horrible dismissal of Gov. Andrew Cuomo's plea for 30,000 ventilators.
EARHARDT: They're all playing the blame game, and I was watching Sean Hannity interview the president last night, and the president said, "Look," to Governor Cuomo, he said, "Look, 30,000 ventilators? I would love to give you those, but some hospitals only have one." He said, "Do you really need 30,000? If you do, we'll do our best," but he said, "It's complicated, it's expensive to make," so, I agree with you, Geraldo, I think it's not time to do the blame game.
Actually, Trump said, "I don't believe you need 40,000 or 30,000 ventilators. You go into a hospital and they have two ventilators and all of a sudden the need 30,000 ventilators?" THAT'S what he said. He didn't promise to do his best. He didn't say they're expensive. He didn't say he'd love to give Cuomo the ventilators. He said he did not believe NY needed them. Period.
Nice try, Ms. Earhardt.


crooksandliars--2020-03-26--Joe Scarborough Wants Trump Bailed Out So He Won't Get Revenge On America

Look , I don ’ t like Joe Scarborough and I never will .
There ’ s something real creepy about him .
I can ’ t tell you why I don ’ t like him because it ’ s unknown to me .
However , today gave me a little clue .
MSNBC ’ s Joe Scarborough thinks Senate Democrats should go ahead and bail out President Donald Trump ’ s hotels and other properties so he ’ ll focus on public health instead of his own bottom line .
The “ Morning Joe ” host called on lawmakers @ @ @ @ @ @ @ relief to properties owned by Trump and his family , saying he ’ s been worried about the president ’ s priorities .
See the little kid in the corner throwing a fit at the birthday party because he can ’ t have all the ice cream ?
Give him all the damn ice cream because otherwise he ’ s going to ruin the party for everyone .
• I resent the hell out of being extorted by my president .
Did he go Stalin on us now ?
Tell ya what – @ @ @ @ @ @ @ • How fair is this to the mom and pop who bought a La Quinta franchise ?
They don ’ t have the Russians to bail them out .
• The last damn thing in the world I want is Donald Trump focusing on pubic health .
Seriously .
What we need now is not saving Trump ’ s hotels .
We do , however , need better morning show hosts and the 25th amendment .

Look, I don’t like Joe Scarborough and I never will.
There’s something real creepy about him. I can’t tell you why I don’t like him because it’s unknown to me. However, today gave me a little clue.
MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough thinks Senate Democrats should go ahead and bail out President Donald Trump’s hotels and other properties so he’ll focus on public health instead of his own bottom line. The “Morning Joe” host called on lawmakers to waive their objection to sending coronavirus relief to properties owned by Trump and his family, saying he’s been worried about the president’s priorities.
See the little kid in the corner throwing a fit at the birthday party because he can’t have all the ice cream? Give him all the damn ice cream because otherwise he’s going to ruin the party for everyone.
I resent the hell out of being extorted by my president. Did he go Stalin on us now? Tell ya what – give him your money, Joe. How fair is this to the mom and pop who bought a La Quinta franchise? They don’t have the Russians to bail them out. The last damn thing in the world I want is Donald Trump focusing on pubic health. Seriously.
What we need now is not saving Trump’s hotels. We do, however, need better morning show hosts and the 25th amendment.
Say it, Joe.
Published with permission of JuanitaJean.com


crooksandliars--2020-04-02--Mike's Blog Round Up

Mike's Blog Round Up

Just An Earth-bound Misfit : Boeing is in trouble again , this time over its KC-46 aerial fuel tanker for @ @ @ @ @ Jean ’ s : The “ President as the Anti-Christ ” is a bunch of @ @ @ @ @ : Pastor Robert Jeffress decries the “ few fanatical nutjobs among evangelicals ” who refuse @ @ @ @ @ the Coronavirus crisis .
Speaking of which , your quote of the day : `` @ @ @ @ @ Antichrist .
But what I am saying is this : the course he is choosing @ @ @ @ @ paving the way for the future reign of the Antichrist . ''
( Pastor Robert @ @ @ @ @ 2012 . )
Guest blogging Mike 's Blog Round Up this week is Jon Perr @ @ @ @ @ tips , recommendations , comments and angst to mbru AT crooksandliars DOT com .

Just An Earth-bound Misfit: Boeing is in trouble again, this time over its KC-46 aerial fuel tanker for the Air Force.
Progress Pond: Tennessee Republican Governor Bill Lee is a one-man public health crisis.
Juanita Jean’s: The “President as the Anti-Christ” is a bunch of malarkey. Still…
Joe.My.God.: Pastor Robert Jeffress decries the “few fanatical nutjobs among evangelicals” who refuse to cancel church services during the Coronavirus crisis.
Speaking of which, your quote of the day:
"President Obama is not the Antichrist. But what I am saying is this: the course he is choosing to lead our nation is paving the way for the future reign of the Antichrist." (Pastor Robert Jeffress, November 4, 2012.)
Guest blogging Mike's Blog Round Up this week is Jon Perr from Perrspectives. Send your tips, recommendations, comments and angst to mbru AT crooksandliars DOT com.


crooksandliars--2020-04-02--Hannity On The Defensive Threatens To 'Sue Everybody!'

By now you may have heard that the legal suits at Fox News are nervous that all the denialism over Coronavirus at the network might have some , I think they call them `` legal ramifications . ''
Sean Hannity responds as he usually does , with loud !
projection !
Transcript via Media Matters : SEAN HANNITY : SEAN HANNITY ( HOST ) : Sadly , you wo n't likely find any hopeful message among the deranged individuals that are known -- I call them the media mob .
Why ?
Because they are too busy doing what they @ @ @ @ @ @ @ oh , to bludgeon President Trump politically .
You have got one far-left media mob maniac over at The New York Times using the virus to attack her least favorite network , oh , and yours truly .
Accusing Fox News of putting her mother and the elderly people at risk .
Now , if she actually watched our coverage and cared about truth , actually she should put a correction in her newspaper .
We would know that we 've reported without fear from the very beginning -- we have our own @ @ @ @ @ @ @ to help the media mob out , we put it all together for them , so they ca n't plead ignorance when I think about suing them .
Sean , `` thinking about suing them '' is as far as you 'll get .
They get discovery of every email you and your bosses AND DONALD TRUMP have exchanged on the topic of the virus , at least .
If your `` attorney '' Michael Cohen was n't in prison right now he 'd tell you that .

By now you may have heard that the legal suits at Fox News are nervous that all the denialism over Coronavirus at the network might have some, I think they call them "legal ramifications."
Sean Hannity responds as he usually does, with loud! projection! Transcript via Media Matters:
SEAN HANNITY: SEAN HANNITY (HOST): Sadly, you won't likely find any hopeful message among the deranged individuals that are known -- I call them the media mob. Why? Because they are too busy doing what they always do, looking for ways, oh, to bludgeon President Trump politically. You have got one far-left media mob maniac over at The New York Times using the virus to attack her least favorite network, oh, and yours truly. Accusing Fox News of putting her mother and the elderly people at risk. Now, if she actually watched our coverage and cared about truth, actually she should put a correction in her newspaper. We would know that we've reported without fear from the very beginning -- we have our own little timeline on Hannity.com. In order to help the media mob out, we put it all together for them, so they can't plead ignorance when I think about suing them.
Sean, "thinking about suing them" is as far as you'll get. They get discovery of every email you and your bosses AND DONALD TRUMP have exchanged on the topic of the virus, at least. If your "attorney" Michael Cohen wasn't in prison right now he'd tell you that.


crooksandliars--2020-04-01--Kellyanne Wonders Why Joe Biden Won't 'Help' The Trump White House

Joe Biden has challenged the Trump White House to take some very straight-forward steps on public health .
His plan @ @ @ @ @ nationwide , protection for farm workers , you know , presidential stuff .
KELLYANNE CONWAY @ @ @ @ @ s really disappointing to have President Obama ’ s No .
2 , who apparently @ @ @ @ @ to him , out there criticizing instead of saying , ‘ Here ’ s what @ @ @ @ @ was effective . '
Why doesn ’ t Vice President Biden today call the White @ @ @ @ @ I think the critics and the naysayers seem so much more small , so much @ @ @ @ @ petty than they ever have .
Donald Trump deleted the Obama infrastructure for pandemic response @ @ @ @ @ also said no one in the Trump White House is talking about politics these days @ @ @ @ @ came out onto the White House lawn to bash Biden ?
I usually do n't @ @ @ @ @ tweets , but really .

Joe Biden has challenged the Trump White House to take some very straight-forward steps on public health.
In order to combat COVID-19, we need both a decisive public health response and a decisive economic response. I’ve laid out exactly what I would do if I were president during this crisis, take a look: https://t.co/Q58OQW6tQO — Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) March 31, 2020
His plan includes a ban on evictions nationwide, protection for farm workers, you know, presidential stuff.
Kellyanne Conway can't stand it.
KELLYANNE CONWAY: I think it’s really disappointing to have President Obama’s No. 2, who apparently doesn’t talk much to him, out there criticizing instead of saying, ‘Here’s what we did that we thought was effective.' Why doesn’t Vice President Biden today call the White House and offer support? I think the critics and the naysayers seem so much more small, so much more shrill and unhelpful and petty than they ever have.
Donald Trump deleted the Obama infrastructure for pandemic response, you twit.
I swear, Obama could have left a vaccine to cure Covid-19 in the desk drawer of the Oval and Trump would have destroyed it. — Woman In The Moon (@SassyKadiK) March 27, 2020
She also said no one in the Trump White House is talking about politics these days.
Is that why she came out onto the White House lawn to bash Biden?
I usually don't end posts with Jennifer Rubin tweets, but really.


crooksandliars--2020-04-02--Trump Still Insists Governors Kiss His Butt To Get Critical Supplies

Welcome to the COVID-19 Games , where the tributes are governors fighting for the scraps of critical protective gear still available , and where success still depends on kissing Trump 's ass .
Last week Trump was playing quid pro quo with Americans lives , telling governors `` it 's a two-way street .
They have to treat us well . ''
The result of not doing so is not getting help .
Take New York , which requested 30,000 ventilators and got 4,400 .
And is being outbid by FEMA on the private market , where the state has @ @ @ @ @ @ @ What sense does this make ?
” Gov .
Andrew Cuomo told reporters Tuesday .
`` The federal government , FEMA , should have been the purchasing agent .
Buy everything , and then allocate it by need to the states . ''
Wisconsin 's Democratic Gov .
Tony Evers asked for 190,000 nonsurgical masks from FEMA last week , and has struggled to find ventilators .
He has no idea where the masks are .
On the other hand , Oklahoma asked for 16,000 face shields and got 120,000 .
It had @ @ @ @ @ @ @ end of last week , `` more than twice its original request . ''
Then there 's Florida , which is expecting its third shipment from the feds .
It got 100 % of what Trump 's good buddy Gov .
Ron DeSantis asked for in the first two shipments .
Kentucky has gotten more than it requested .
Illinois , Massachusetts , and Maine have only gotten part of what they 've requested .
( There you go , Sen. Susan Collins , more lessons learned for you . )
It 's @ @ @ @ @ @ @ 's thinking about .
Sure , he needs Florida in 2020 , but he also needs Michigan , where he 's treated Democratic Gov .
Gretchen Whitmer abysmally .
It 's about who is playing the `` dear leader '' game to his satisfaction .
All the governors know that and it factors into what they 're doing .
One aide to a Democratic governor told the Post they 've been playing nice and have found Trump to be receptive .
`` But we watch the news , we see what he says @ @ @ @ @ @ @ said the aide , speaking on the condition of anonymity .
Probably so Trump does n't find out which state and ca n't retaliate .
Not that it 's all Trump 's Stalin complex .
There 's also just sheer incompetence .
Yes , Trump 's ego makes trying to appease him within the administration more chaotic , but the people he 's got working under him are just as incompetent as he is , unable to lead their gutted departments .
For example , `` Pennsylvania received some shipments without packing lists @ @ @ @ @ @ @ they had been given . ''
California got 170 broken ventilators from the national stockpile , requiring them to have to track down someone who could repair them and losing days of use of them in the process .
Alabama got 28 cases of face masks that had dry rot , which is apparently a thing that can happen to face masks and which should not have happened because someone in the damned government should have been making sure that everything in the damned national emergency stockpile was still usable .

Welcome to the COVID-19 Games, where the tributes are governors fighting for the scraps of critical protective gear still available, and where success still depends on kissing Trump's ass.
Last week Trump was playing quid pro quo with Americans lives, telling governors "it's a two-way street. They have to treat us well." The result of not doing so is not getting help. Take New York, which requested 30,000 ventilators and got 4,400. And is being outbid by FEMA on the private market, where the state has been trying to procure more. “What sense does this make?” Gov. Andrew Cuomo told reporters Tuesday. "The federal government, FEMA, should have been the purchasing agent. Buy everything, and then allocate it by need to the states." Wisconsin's Democratic Gov. Tony Evers asked for 190,000 nonsurgical masks from FEMA last week, and has struggled to find ventilators. He has no idea where the masks are.
On the other hand, Oklahoma asked for 16,000 face shields and got 120,000. It had received about 84,000 N95 masks by the end of last week, "more than twice its original request." Then there's Florida, which is expecting its third shipment from the feds. It got 100% of what Trump's good buddy Gov. Ron DeSantis asked for in the first two shipments. Kentucky has gotten more than it requested. Illinois, Massachusetts, and Maine have only gotten part of what they've requested. (There you go, Sen. Susan Collins, more lessons learned for you.)
It's not just Trump's political future he's thinking about. Sure, he needs Florida in 2020, but he also needs Michigan, where he's treated Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer abysmally. It's about who is playing the "dear leader" game to his satisfaction. All the governors know that and it factors into what they're doing. One aide to a Democratic governor told the Post they've been playing nice and have found Trump to be receptive. "But we watch the news, we see what he says about people who criticize him," said the aide, speaking on the condition of anonymity. Probably so Trump doesn't find out which state and can't retaliate.
Not that it's all Trump's Stalin complex. There's also just sheer incompetence. Yes, Trump's ego makes trying to appease him within the administration more chaotic, but the people he's got working under him are just as incompetent as he is, unable to lead their gutted departments. For example, "Pennsylvania received some shipments without packing lists, leaving officials there unsure about what they had been given." California got 170 broken ventilators from the national stockpile, requiring them to have to track down someone who could repair them and losing days of use of them in the process. Alabama got 28 cases of face masks that had dry rot, which is apparently a thing that can happen to face masks and which should not have happened because someone in the damned government should have been making sure that everything in the damned national emergency stockpile was still usable.
Reprinted with permission from Daily Kos.


crooksandliars--2020-04-01--Fox Misleads On COVID, So Tucker Carlson Whines About Censorship

Tuesday night the Fox News host whined on-air about `` THEM , '' those pointing out that Fox News has been either downplaying the seriousness of the COVID pandemic , or claiming , as Fox Nation hosts Diamond and Silk did THIS WEEK , that the numbers of deaths for the virus are somehow being inflated to `` hurt the president . ''
This disinformation is having an effect on viewers .
They will not take steps to protect themselves and they will die .
The network suits are `` concerned '' about legal liability for their lying .
As @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Sunday : GABE SHERMAN : When I 've been talking to FOX insiders over the last few days , there 's a real concern inside the network that their early downplaying of the coronavirus actually exposes FOX News to potential legal action by viewers who maybe were misled and have actually died from this .
I 've heard Trish Regan 's being taken off the air is , you know , reflective of this concern that FOX News is in big trouble by downplaying this virus and The New York Times reported days @ @ @ @ @ @ @ taking the coronavirus seriously .
The Murdoch 's , of course , own FOX News .
They were taken personal steps to protect themselves while anchors like Trish Regan and Sean Hannity were telling viewers it was a hoax and putting themselves in potentially mortal danger .
In this case , FOX 's coverage , if it proves people died because of it , this is a new terrain of FOX possibly being held liable for their actions .
The extent of pro-Trump disinformation on the virus is making Fox 's legal department @ @ @ @ @ @ @ flag and cries `` censorship . ''
TUCKER : Soon they ’ ll be telling you that Fox News , not China , caused this pandemic .
In fact , many are saying that now .
How long before they start claiming that in the name of public health , Fox News must be suppressed ?
Paranoid ?
Okay , you watch .
That ’ ll happen .
I hope they get sued out of existence .

Aww Tucker Carlson is feeling picked on.
Tuesday night the Fox News host whined on-air about "THEM," those pointing out that Fox News has been either downplaying the seriousness of the COVID pandemic, or claiming, as Fox Nation hosts Diamond and Silk did THIS WEEK, that the numbers of deaths for the virus are somehow being inflated to "hurt the president."
Here’s a compilation of Fox News talking about how this was basically just the flu pic.twitter.com/OhK3X2zhlF — Parker Molloy (@ParkerMolloy) March 31, 2020
This disinformation is having an effect on viewers. They will not take steps to protect themselves and they will die.
"She is in the over-80 group that is most at risk of dying from infection. I worry a lot," @karaswisher writes about her mother. "But she was not concerned — and it was clear why. Her primary source of news is Fox." https://t.co/jnvQ5ZFaAx — New York Times Opinion (@nytopinion) April 1, 2020
The network suits are "concerned" about legal liability for their lying. As we reported Gabe Sherman's remarks on Sunday:
GABE SHERMAN: When I've been talking to FOX insiders over the last few days, there's a real concern inside the network that their early downplaying of the coronavirus actually exposes FOX News to potential legal action by viewers who maybe were misled and have actually died from this. I've heard Trish Regan's being taken off the air is, you know, reflective of this concern that FOX News is in big trouble by downplaying this virus and The New York Times reported days ago that the Murdoch family was privately taking the coronavirus seriously. The Murdoch's, of course, own FOX News. They were taken personal steps to protect themselves while anchors like Trish Regan and Sean Hannity were telling viewers it was a hoax and putting themselves in potentially mortal danger. In this case, FOX's coverage, if it proves people died because of it, this is a new terrain of FOX possibly being held liable for their actions.
The extent of pro-Trump disinformation on the virus is making Fox's legal department nervous, so Tucker Carlson waves the flag and cries "censorship."
TUCKER: Soon they’ll be telling you that Fox News, not China, caused this pandemic. In fact, many are saying that now. How long before they start claiming that in the name of public health, Fox News must be suppressed? Paranoid? Okay, you watch. That’ll happen.
I hope they get sued out of existence.


crooksandliars--2020-03-24--Jim Cramer Suggests Uninfected Should Wear A Star On Their Clothes

It 's hard to say if Jim Cramer is trying and failing to provide comic relief , or he just @ @ @ @ @ .
... while reviewing which Coronavirus companies might make a profitable investment ... suggested that @ @ @ @ @ star in order to fly on an airplane .
`` Maybe we have to give @ @ @ @ @ they do in other countries .
Then , WE 'RE BACK !
WE 'RE BACK @ @ @ @ @ this man is still on TV is extraordinary given his complete failure & incompetence in @ @ @ @ @ , he 's still spouting same ignorance , now coupling it with racist and anti-Semitic @ @ @ @ @ feel like we 're getting what we deserve right now .

It's hard to say if Jim Cramer is trying and failing to provide comic relief, or he just does not hear himself talking.
On Monday's CNBC outing Cramer...
...while reviewing which Coronavirus companies might make a profitable investment...
suggested that healthy people might wear a star in order to fly on an airplane.
"Maybe we have to give people a star, as they do in other countries. Then, WE'RE BACK! WE'RE BACK!"
Why stop there. Why not add some kind of tracking number, maybe in the form of a tattoo? — Shannon *WASH YOUR HANDS* (@jodfoster) March 23, 2020
The fact that this man is still on TV is extraordinary given his complete failure & incompetence in '08. 12 years later, he's still spouting same ignorance, now coupling it with racist and anti-Semitic statements.
America, I feel like we're getting what we deserve right now. — Michael James Reed (@mikejimreed) March 23, 2020


crooksandliars--2020-03-25--Mike's Blog Round Up

Mike's Blog Round Up

Welcome to the Disaster Party ; it 's the anthem for our times .
Today our bloggers look at the @ @ @ @ @ Stupid and the survival of the fittest bank accounts .
Is it Mourning in America @ @ @ @ @ COVID-19 Infrastructure Week !
Progressive Pulse notes that the Invisible Hand of the Market is @ @ @ @ @ Popular Information noticed that Amazon is asking you to give their workers sick leave fund @ @ @ @ @ on the `` difficult trade-offs '' Prznint Stupid is willing to make with our lives @ @ @ @ @ Raisins premiers a new poster for our times .
Round-up by Tengrain who blogs at @ @ @ @ @ .
You can follow Tengrain on the Twitters , too .
Send tips , requests @ @ @ @ @ @ crooksandliars.com ( with For MBRU in the subject line ) .

Welcome to the Disaster Party; it's the anthem for our times. Today our bloggers look at the convergence of idiocy of Prznint Stupid and the survival of the fittest bank accounts. Is it Mourning in America? Naw, it's COVID-19 Infrastructure Week!
Progressive Pulse notes that the Invisible Hand of the Market is giving us the finger.
Popular Information noticed that Amazon is asking you to give their workers sick leave fund!
Blue Heron Blast comments on the "difficult trade-offs" Prznint Stupid is willing to make with our lives.
Bonus Track: Hysterical Raisins premiers a new poster for our times.
Round-up by Tengrain who blogs at Mock, Paper, Scissors. You can follow Tengrain on the Twitters, too. Send tips, requests, and suggestions to mbru@crooksandliars.com (with For MBRU in the subject line).


crooksandliars--2020-03-25--Death Panel Guy Glenn Beck Calls For Oldsters To Sacrifice On The Altar Of St. Wall Street

Over the years , I and the other writers here at Crooks and Liars have written a lot about right-wing talkers on Fox News and elsewhere fearmongering about `` death panels . ''
It was always a ridiculous construct .
No one on the left was talking about euthanizing Granny , but here we are .
And not just Granny , but anyone over the age of 60 .
Seriously , they are having this conversation in a serious way over on the right side of the political spectrum .
But this asshat who manages somehow to scrape together enough @ @ @ @ @ @ @ toxic politics really takes the cake .
“ I sincerely hope that we are not at a place , as Americans , where we are going to let the Democrats jam down the Green New Deal because we ’ re at home panicked , ” Glenn Beck told his viewers .
“ I want to have a frank conversation with you and ask you where you stand .
I mean , I ’ m in the danger zone .
I ’ m right at the edge , I ’ m 56 .
In @ @ @ @ @ @ @ ’ re sick and your 60 , don ’ t even come in .
So I ’ m in the danger zone.
” WHAT danger zone ?
There is NO danger zone .
We are not going to leave people over 60 to die in the street in the greatest nation on earth , are we ?
Well , no .
We 're not .
And even Beck concedes that .
Like Tucker Carlson the night before , Beck has the idea that the elders in our society should sacrifice themselves on the @ @ @ @ @ @ @ .
“ I would rather have my children stay home and all of us who are over 50 go in and keep this economy going and working , ” he continued .
“ Even if we all get sick , I ’ d rather die than kill the country , because it ’ s not the economy that ’ s dying , it ’ s the country.
” Here is Glenn Beck with Gimmetarian ( thanks David Waldman/Daily Kos for that ) Rand Paul in 2009 : Beck : Tell me about – @ @ @ @ @ @ @ any inflammatory speech here , don ’ t call them “ death panels ” , just let ’ s call them what they are – you have a certain amount of money , you have a certain amount of people , you can ’ t -- they don ’ t -- you can ’ t give everything to everybody , isn ’ t it inevitable that you have to make tough choices ?
Paul : Well , you know , the president says he isn ’ t going to pull the plug on @ @ @ @ @ @ @ really means is , he ’ s not going to put the plug in in the first place , because you have to decide , some committee ’ s going to have to decide , what is the cost-benefit analysis for grandma ?
Grandma is not just your grandmother , she 's a statistic , we have to decide , what is the cost to society to keep her alive ?
And I think she wo n't get plugged in .
Her ventilator wo n't be plugged in if she 's 92 years @ @ @ @ @ @ @ do n't have the money to do that .
Turns out the committee is the Sacred Order Of The Stock Market , which Beck mistakenly equates with the economy .
Here 's Glenn Beck a month or so later in 2009 : Apparently he was talking about his generation .
His right-wing , libertarian , fascist , throw Granny off the bridge generation .
It 's not coincidence that all the wingers are talking about this now .
This is their official message .
Die , you Boomers over 60 .
Die now @ @ @ @ @ @ @ in order to reap their billions .
This is their official message on Fox News and other right-wing outlets .
It 's also what my colleague Red Painter says :

Over the years, I and the other writers here at Crooks and Liars have written a lot about right-wing talkers on Fox News and elsewhere fearmongering about "death panels." It was always a ridiculous construct. No one on the left was talking about euthanizing Granny, but here we are. And not just Granny, but anyone over the age of 60. Seriously, they are having this conversation in a serious way over on the right side of the political spectrum.
But this asshat who manages somehow to scrape together enough people to keep on poisoning them with toxic politics really takes the cake.
“I sincerely hope that we are not at a place, as Americans, where we are going to let the Democrats jam down the Green New Deal because we’re at home panicked,” Glenn Beck told his viewers. “I want to have a frank conversation with you and ask you where you stand. I mean, I’m in the danger zone. I’m right at the edge, I’m 56. In Italy they’re saying if you’re sick and your 60, don’t even come in. So I’m in the danger zone.”
WHAT danger zone? There is NO danger zone. We are not going to leave people over 60 to die in the street in the greatest nation on earth, are we?
Well, no. We're not. And even Beck concedes that. Like Tucker Carlson the night before, Beck has the idea that the elders in our society should sacrifice themselves on the altar of St. Dow or Sister NASDAQ.
“I would rather have my children stay home and all of us who are over 50 go in and keep this economy going and working,” he continued. “Even if we all get sick, I’d rather die than kill the country, because it’s not the economy that’s dying, it’s the country.”
Here is Glenn Beck with Gimmetarian (thanks David Waldman/Daily Kos for that) Rand Paul in 2009:
Beck: Tell me about – am I wrong in saying, without any inflammatory speech here, don’t call them “death panels”, just let’s call them what they are – you have a certain amount of money, you have a certain amount of people, you can’t -- they don’t -- you can’t give everything to everybody, isn’t it inevitable that you have to make tough choices? Paul: Well, you know, the president says he isn’t going to pull the plug on grandma, but what I think he really means is, he’s not going to put the plug in in the first place, because you have to decide, some committee’s going to have to decide, what is the cost-benefit analysis for grandma? Grandma is not just your grandmother, she's a statistic, we have to decide, what is the cost to society to keep her alive? And I think she won't get plugged in. Her ventilator won't be plugged in if she's 92 years old, because society may say we don't have the money to do that.
Turns out the committee is the Sacred Order Of The Stock Market, which Beck mistakenly equates with the economy.
Here's Glenn Beck a month or so later in 2009:
"We have raised a generation of potential killers," he warned, inspired by a letter to the editor from a young woman who wants health-care reform for her generation especially. Yeah, that's exactly the same thing as pushing for euthanasia.
Apparently he was talking about his generation. His right-wing, libertarian, fascist, throw Granny off the bridge generation.
It's not coincidence that all the wingers are talking about this now. This is their official message. Die, you Boomers over 60. Die now because those vampire billionaires need you to in order to reap their billions.
This is their official message on Fox News and other right-wing outlets. It's also what my colleague Red Painter says:


crooksandliars--2020-04-08--Fox News Does The Trump Two-Step: Sells Snake Oil With A Hedge

Fox News is worried about lawsuits , and rightly so .
They should be very concerned about the possibility of causing people to die or minimize the threat of the coronavirus .
At the same time , they have the need to bow before Dear Leader , no matter what nonsense he 's selling to his cult , including drugs that have n't been proven to be effective with COVID-19 .
So they hedge , like they did in the video above .
DANA PERINO ( ANCHOR ) : Sir , can you tell me your thoughts about this -- @ @ @ @ @ @ @ treatment or a therapy for coronavirus .
What do you think about the drug that is used , normally , to treat malaria ?
DR. WILLIAM HASELTINE ( PRESIDENT , ACCESS HEALTH INTERNATIONAL ) : Well , thank you for the question , Dana .
It 's sad , to me , that people are promoting that drug .
We know already , from studies , at best it will have a very mild effect — at very best .
There are studies that conflict a little bit , one from the other @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , the other concludes it has a mild effect .
The net result is , whatever effect it has , it will be very mild .
That drug has been used for years against many other viruses — to no effect .
The thing that makes me sad about that story is some people may take it who are on other medications , who have other underlying conditions , and may have very serious , even life-threatening , consequences .
It is not something to take unless a doctor prescribes it .
PERINO @ @ @ @ @ @ @ that a doctor could not prescribe it , but that should be something that is worked out between them .
And what about the — and I know you do n't go by anecdotal evidence , but there are stories of people saying that they 've had this Lazarus effect by using this drug .
HASELTINE : That is nonsense , complete and utter nonsense .
And in any situation , there are always going to be people who promote one kind of quack cure or another .
And there are Lazarus effects @ @ @ @ @ @ @ looked at , it 's always the case .
Let me just repeat , we know that at very best , this drug will have a very mild effect on changing the course of the disease , if it has any effect at all .
That is what the data has shown so far , and I am convinced that that 's what further studies will show .
And it 's not without adverse consequence .
It is irresponsible to promote this drug at this time .
HASELTINE : I know that isn @ @ @ @ @ @ @ to hear .
People do n't want to hear that , but it is unfortunately the case .

Fox News is worried about lawsuits, and rightly so. They should be very concerned about the possibility of causing people to die or minimize the threat of the coronavirus.
At the same time, they have the need to bow before Dear Leader, no matter what nonsense he's selling to his cult, including drugs that haven't been proven to be effective with COVID-19.
So they hedge, like they did in the video above.
Transcript via Media Matters:
DANA PERINO (ANCHOR): Sir, can you tell me your thoughts about this -- everybody wants to find a cure or treatment or a therapy for coronavirus. What do you think about the drug that is used, normally, to treat malaria?
DR. WILLIAM HASELTINE (PRESIDENT, ACCESS HEALTH INTERNATIONAL): Well, thank you for the question, Dana. It's sad, to me, that people are promoting that drug. We know already, from studies, at best it will have a very mild effect — at very best. There are studies that conflict a little bit, one from the other. One concludes it has no effect, the other concludes it has a mild effect. The net result is, whatever effect it has, it will be very mild. That drug has been used for years against many other viruses — to no effect. The thing that makes me sad about that story is some people may take it who are on other medications, who have other underlying conditions, and may have very serious, even life-threatening, consequences. It is not something to take unless a doctor prescribes it.
PERINO: And the government is not saying that a doctor could not prescribe it, but that should be something that is worked out between them. And what about the — and I know you don't go by anecdotal evidence, but there are stories of people saying that they've had this Lazarus effect by using this drug.
HASELTINE: That is nonsense, complete and utter nonsense. And in any situation, there are always going to be people who promote one kind of quack cure or another. And there are Lazarus effects. In every epidemic I've ever looked at, it's always the case. Let me just repeat, we know that at very best, this drug will have a very mild effect on changing the course of the disease, if it has any effect at all. That is what the data has shown so far, and I am convinced that that's what further studies will show. And it's not without adverse consequence. It is irresponsible to promote this drug at this time.
PERINO: I hear you loud and clear.
HASELTINE: I know that isn’t the message that people want to hear. People don't want to hear that, but it is unfortunately the case.


crooksandliars--2020-04-09--Petty Pence Blocks CNN From Interviewing Task Force Experts

Go figure , Mike Pence is doing Trump 's petty little man work for him .
CNN is banned from @ @ @ @ @ Coronavirus Task Force .
CNN.com reports : Pence 's office has declined to make the @ @ @ @ @ officials available to CNN for the last seven days .
`` When you guys cover @ @ @ @ @ officials then you can expect them back on your air , '' a Pence spokesperson @ @ @ @ @ Birx , FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn and Surgeon General Jerome Adams have all appeared on @ @ @ @ @ and Fox during the last week , despite the fact that the broadcast networks have @ @ @ @ @ that have included the vice president and health officials .
But the Vice President 's @ @ @ @ @ appearances since last Thursday night .

Go figure, Mike Pence is doing Trump's petty little man work for him. CNN is banned from hosting medical professionals on the Coronavirus Task Force. CNN.com reports:
Pence's office has declined to make the nation's top health care officials available to CNN for the last seven days.
"When you guys cover the briefings with the health officials then you can expect them back on your air," a Pence spokesperson told CNN.
Fauci, Birx, FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn and Surgeon General Jerome Adams have all appeared on NBC, CBS, ABC and Fox during the last week, despite the fact that the broadcast networks have generally not covered the briefings that have included the vice president and health officials.
But the Vice President's office has blocked all CNN appearances since last Thursday night.


crooksandliars--2020-04-09--Jerry Falwell Jr Issues 'Arrest Warrants' Against NYT, ProPublica Reporters

Imagine being so out of it that you actually get one of your campus cops to sign his name to a document that purports to be an 'arrest warrant ' [ sic ] for reporters from the New York Times and ProPublica who were at your university to report on your roundly criticized decision to keep Liberty University open .
So why is Falwell engaging in this theatrical exercise that has no basis in reality ?
Well , in part , because it 's what he does , like Trump , threaten to sue anyone who is critical of him @ @ @ @ @ @ @ cow that his father created .
The other more ominous sign for Falwell is that there is a movement afoot to get rid of him , that he 's just become more of a liability than an asset to the University , even with his access to people like Trump and other conservative figures .
Falwell hears the calls for his removal and takes them seriously , even if his response is more of a joke than anything .
Liberty University President Jerry Falwell , Jr. , announced Wednesday that he is pursuing @ @ @ @ @ @ @ freelancer and ProPublica for trespassing on campus while covering COVID-19 .
“ We actually went to the local magistrate , we ’ ve sworn out warrants for their misdemeanor arrest , ” Falwell said on right-wing radio show , the “ Todd Starnes Show.
” He added that there were “ no trespassing ” signs posted on every entrance to campus that warned off everybody except students , faculty , staff and people with “ official university business.
” Falwell has been the subject of numerous reports , including from TPM , about @ @ @ @ @ @ @ campus residence halls to students after spring break as colleges nationwide shuttered to slow the spread of the COVID-19 outbreak .
Falwell said during the show that he ’ d send Starnes photos of the warrants , which Starnes posted on his website : The partial photos of the warrants appear to be signed by Sgt .
Alan Wilkins , a detective with the Liberty University Police Department .
Wilkins did not respond to a request for authentication .
Blue Virginia transcribed some of Falwell 's unhinged rant from the audio of Todd @ @ @ @ @ @ @ This reporter and her photographer , and a reporter from Pro-Publica…it ’ s a George Soros publication , they also came on campus .
And we had signs on every entrance , no trespassing…some of these publications actually put the pictures of the no trespassing signs on their websites as they were trespassing .
So we actually went to the local magistrate , we ’ ve sworn out warrants for their arrests…misdemeanor warrants… [ They ] put our students at risk.
” • “ We feel like we ’ re not only going @ @ @ @ @ @ @ also have sworn warrants out for their arrest for trespassing .
”

Imagine being so out of it that you actually get one of your campus cops to sign his name to a document that purports to be an 'arrest warrant' [sic] for reporters from the New York Times and ProPublica who were at your university to report on your roundly criticized decision to keep Liberty University open.
So why is Falwell engaging in this theatrical exercise that has no basis in reality? Well, in part, because it's what he does, like Trump, threaten to sue anyone who is critical of him or Liberty University, the golden cash cow that his father created. The other more ominous sign for Falwell is that there is a movement afoot to get rid of him, that he's just become more of a liability than an asset to the University, even with his access to people like Trump and other conservative figures. Falwell hears the calls for his removal and takes them seriously, even if his response is more of a joke than anything.
Source: Talking Points Memo
Liberty University President Jerry Falwell, Jr., announced Wednesday that he is pursuing criminal charges against a New York Times freelancer and ProPublica for trespassing on campus while covering COVID-19. “We actually went to the local magistrate, we’ve sworn out warrants for their misdemeanor arrest,” Falwell said on right-wing radio show, the “Todd Starnes Show.” He added that there were “no trespassing” signs posted on every entrance to campus that warned off everybody except students, faculty, staff and people with “official university business.” Falwell has been the subject of numerous reports, including from TPM, about his decision to reopen Liberty’s campus residence halls to students after spring break as colleges nationwide shuttered to slow the spread of the COVID-19 outbreak. Falwell said during the show that he’d send Starnes photos of the warrants, which Starnes posted on his website: The partial photos of the warrants appear to be signed by Sgt. Alan Wilkins, a detective with the Liberty University Police Department. Wilkins did not respond to a request for authentication.
Blue Virginia transcribed some of Falwell's unhinged rant from the audio of Todd Starnes' radio show:
“This reporter and her photographer, and a reporter from Pro-Publica…it’s a George Soros publication, they also came on campus. And we had signs on every entrance, no trespassing…some of these publications actually put the pictures of the no trespassing signs on their websites as they were trespassing. So we actually went to the local magistrate, we’ve sworn out warrants for their arrests…misdemeanor warrants…[They] put our students at risk.”


crooksandliars--2020-04-09--Stable Genius Now Adds Zinc To His Quack Coronavirus Treatment

Trump stunned the medical community yesterday when he claimed they are saying `` to add zinc '' as a coronavirus treatment .
Dr. William Haseltine told Dana Perino on Fox News , these outliers are never trusted sources of medical information and called hydroxychloroquine a quack remedy for COVID19 .
During yesterday 's reelection campaign presser , Trump thanked State Rep. Karen Whitsett for telling Laura Ingraham she believes hydroxychloroquine helped cure her .
Trump then suddenly began promoting azithromycin and zinc as part of his unproven remedy to combat COVID-19 .
Stable Genius went off : `` Zinc , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ add zinc .
Now , this all has to be recommended by doctors , physicians .
But they say zinc .
I want to throw that out there we could where they seem to be having the best result.
” Azithromycin and Zinc ?
Who is the they promoting these combinations for use against the coronavirus ?
It 's certainly not any medical professional affiliated with the coronavirus task force .
The NY Times reports , `` Dr. Vladimir Zelenko , has been treating a New York village of 35,000 Hasidic Jews roughly @ @ @ @ @ @ @ and claims he seen great results .
This led to instant promotion by Trump , Mark Meadows and Fox News minions like Sean Hannity , and Rudy Giuliani .
Of course , it 's Fox News .
They amplify any singular story that can help Trump no matter if it is true or not .
They never bothered to fact check any claim of a miracle cure that Trump has been promoting for obvious reasons .
For selfish reasons .
These selfish reasons are very dangerous to the public at large .
Shortly @ @ @ @ @ @ @ group of village officials wrote an open letter pleading with him to stop .
They said he had exaggerated the extent of the coronavirus outbreak in Kiryas Joel , using a small sample of his patients to predict that as many as 90 percent of village residents would get the virus .
“ Dr .
Zelenko ’ s videos have caused widespread fear that has resulted in the discrimination against members of the Hasidic community throughout the region , ” the officials wrote , disputing the figure .
MSNBC broke in to the @ @ @ @ @ @ @ live ?
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to debunk the zinc nonsense :

Trump stunned the medical community yesterday when he claimed they are saying "to add zinc" as a coronavirus treatment.
Dr. William Haseltine told Dana Perino on Fox News, these outliers are never trusted sources of medical information and called hydroxychloroquine a quack remedy for COVID19.
During yesterday's reelection campaign presser, Trump thanked State Rep. Karen Whitsett for telling Laura Ingraham she believes hydroxychloroquine helped cure her.
Trump then suddenly began promoting azithromycin and zinc as part of his unproven remedy to combat COVID-19.
Stable Genius went off: "Zinc, they say. Zinc. You should add zinc. Now, this all has to be recommended by doctors, physicians. But they say zinc. I want to throw that out there we could where they seem to be having the best result.”
Where, what?
Azithromycin and Zinc? Who is the they promoting these combinations for use against the coronavirus?
It's certainly not any medical professional affiliated with the coronavirus task force.
The NY Times reports, "Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, has been treating a New York village of 35,000 Hasidic Jews roughly an hour’s drive from Manhattan and claims he seen great results.
This led to instant promotion by Trump, Mark Meadows and Fox News minions like Sean Hannity, and Rudy Giuliani.
Of course, it's Fox News. They amplify any singular story that can help Trump no matter if it is true or not. They never bothered to fact check any claim of a miracle cure that Trump has been promoting for obvious reasons. For selfish reasons. These selfish reasons are very dangerous to the public at large.
Shortly after he posted on YouTube, a group of village officials wrote an open letter pleading with him to stop. They said he had exaggerated the extent of the coronavirus outbreak in Kiryas Joel, using a small sample of his patients to predict that as many as 90 percent of village residents would get the virus. “Dr. Zelenko’s videos have caused widespread fear that has resulted in the discrimination against members of the Hasidic community throughout the region,” the officials wrote, disputing the figure.
MSNBC broke in to the briefing (why are they airing them live???) to debunk the zinc nonsense:


crooksandliars--2020-04-09--Napolitano Blasts Kushner's Virus Surveillance System: 'The Constitution Still Applies'

Fox News legal analyst Andrew Napolitano on Wednesday threw cold water on the idea that White House adviser Jared Kushner @ @ @ @ @ surveillance ” system to track the coronavirus .
According to Politico , the system would @ @ @ @ @ near real-time view of where patients are seeking treatment and for what , and whether @ @ @ @ @ Napolitano said that Kushner ’ s proposal “ terrifies those of us who believe the @ @ @ @ @ says.
” “ The Fourth Amendment says no government can surveil you without a search @ @ @ @ @ .
“ They can ’ t engage in mass surveillance , whether it ’ s @ @ @ @ @ or just for their lurid desires of knowing where everybody is.
” “ The Constitution @ @ @ @ @ and in bad , ” he later added .

Fox News legal analyst Andrew Napolitano on Wednesday threw cold water on the idea that White House adviser Jared Kushner could develop a national “surveillance” system to track the coronavirus.
According to Politico, the system would “give the government a near real-time view of where patients are seeking treatment and for what, and whether hospitals can accommodate them.”
Napolitano said that Kushner’s proposal “terrifies those of us who believe the Constitution and believes what it says.”
“The Fourth Amendment says no government can surveil you without a search warrant!” Napolitano exclaimed. “They can’t engage in mass surveillance, whether it’s for your safety or health or just for their lurid desires of knowing where everybody is.”
“The Constitution still applies in good times and in bad,” he later added.


crooksandliars--2020-04-06--Washington State Nonprofit Sues Fox And Murdoch Over Coronavirus Misinformation

Fox News ’ misinformation about the coronavirus has come back to haunt it via a lawsuit that specifically cites Sean Hannity and Trish Regan ’ s attempts to downplay the pandemic as “ willfully and maliciously ” disseminating misinformation that represents “ unfair and deceptive trade practices.
” Last week , Vanity Fair special correspondent Gabriel Sherman reported that Fox News has worried that its misleading coverage of the coronavirus ( COVID-19 ) pandemic could expose the network to lawsuits .
A few days later , Law & Crime ’ s Aaron Keller wrote an in-depth legal analysis stating that @ @ @ @ @ @ @ neither an easy nor likely successful task , ” he did not rule out the possibility that “ a very creative and diligent lawyer ” could prevail .
Now , we may be about to find out ; From the legal complaint filed by the Washington League for Increased Transparency and Ethics ( WASHLITE ) ” 4.2 In February and March of 2020 , at various times that will be shown , including the March 9 , 2020 broadcasts of Sean Hannity and Trish Reagan , Defendants acted in bad faith to willfully @ @ @ @ @ @ @ minimizing the danger posed by the spread of the novel Coronavirus , or COVID-19 , which is now recognized as an international pandemic .
4.3 This misinformation was disseminated to further Defendants ’ business plan and to sell advertising by creating controversy through the dissemination of false information regardless of the reasonably foreseeable adverse effects such misinformation would have upon the American public and public health and safety .
Such conduct constitutes unfair and deceptive trade practices in the broad stream of intra-and international commerce.4.4 As a result of this misinformation by this @ @ @ @ @ @ @ falsehood has been fostered that the virus is a “ hoax ” , a “ conspiracy , ” and that it is no more dangerous than common influenza .
We ’ ve written a lot about Fox ’ s coronavirus misinformation , including from Hannity and Regan .
But personally , I think Fox ’ s Dr. Marc Siegel downplaying the hoax was the worst .
He said about COVID-19 on the March 8 Fox & Friends , “ worst case scenario , it could be the flu ” and agreed with host @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , “ the less there is to worry about.
” ( He ’ s now slamming unpreparedness for the pandemic but giving himself and Donald Trump a pass.
” ) Siegel is also a professor of medicine at NYU Langone .
But I digress .
The Seattle Times reports about the lawsuit : Yakima attorney Liz Hallock , who is running for governor as a Green Party candidate , is representing WASHLITE in the lawsuit against Fox News .
“ We are not trying to chill free speech here .
But we believe @ @ @ @ @ @ @ deceptive communications in the stream of commerce , ” Hallock said in phone interview Friday .
“ There are a lot of people who listen to Fox News , and they ’ re not taking the recommendations of public-health officials seriously .
This is not about money ; it ’ s about making sure the public gets the message this is not a hoax.
” According to Hallock , several members of WASHLITE live in King County and one of them has COVID-19 , the respiratory disease caused by the virus .
Hallock @ @ @ @ @ @ @ damages and reasonable attorney ’ s fees .
Ideally , she would like a judge to find Fox News violated the Consumer Protection Act and to tell the media organization to stop disseminating false information about the virus .
She ’ d also like to see Fox News issue a clear retraction and an apology to viewers .
She said the classic example to demonstrate the limits of free speech is someone yelling “ Fire !
” in a crowded theater when there is no danger .
In contrast , Hallock said of @ @ @ @ @ @ @ yelling , ‘ There is no fire !
’ when there is a fire.
” As you ’ d probably expect , Murdoch and Fox are threatening an aggressive response , including seeking sanctions , i.e .
a financial penalty , from the plaintiff .
From The Daily Beast : The conservative outlet fired back—in a statement provided to The Daily Beast , and attributed to Lily Fu Claffee , Fox News Media ’ s general counsel—that WASHLITE ’ s lawsuit is “ Wrong on the facts , frivolous on the law.
” @ @ @ @ @ @ @ vigorously and seek sanctions as appropriate.
” But Fox may have met its match .
More from The Daily Beast : As for possible sanctions against him and his group , “ I ’ m pretty sure they ’ ll try something like that , because that ’ s what bullies do , ” West said…

Fox News’ misinformation about the coronavirus has come back to haunt it via a lawsuit that specifically cites Sean Hannity and Trish Regan’s attempts to downplay the pandemic as “willfully and maliciously” disseminating misinformation that represents “unfair and deceptive trade practices.”
Last week, Vanity Fair special correspondent Gabriel Sherman reported that Fox News has worried that its misleading coverage of the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic could expose the network to lawsuits. A few days later, Law & Crime’s Aaron Keller wrote an in-depth legal analysis stating that while such a lawsuit would be “neither an easy nor likely successful task,” he did not rule out the possibility that “a very creative and diligent lawyer” could prevail.
Now, we may be about to find out;
From the legal complaint filed by the Washington League for Increased Transparency and Ethics (WASHLITE)”
4.2 In February and March of 2020, at various times that will be shown, including the March 9, 2020 broadcasts of Sean Hannity and Trish Reagan, Defendants acted in bad faith to willfully and maliciously disseminate false information denying and minimizing the danger posed by the spread of the novel Coronavirus, or COVID-19, which is now recognized as an international pandemic. 4.3 This misinformation was disseminated to further Defendants’ business plan and to sell advertising by creating controversy through the dissemination of false information regardless of the reasonably foreseeable adverse effects such misinformation would have upon the American public and public health and safety. Such conduct constitutes unfair and deceptive trade practices in the broad stream of intra-and international commerce.4.4 As a result of this misinformation by this dominant subscription news network, a continuing falsehood has been fostered that the virus is a “hoax”, a “conspiracy,” and that it is no more dangerous than common influenza.
We’ve written a lot about Fox’s coronavirus misinformation, including from Hannity and Regan. But personally, I think Fox’s Dr. Marc Siegel downplaying the hoax was the worst. He said about COVID-19 on the March 8 Fox & Friends, “worst case scenario, it could be the flu” and agreed with host Pete Hegseth that the more you know, “the less there is to worry about.” (He’s now slamming unpreparedness for the pandemic but giving himself and Donald Trump a pass.”) Siegel is also a professor of medicine at NYU Langone. But I digress.
The Seattle Times reports about the lawsuit:
Yakima attorney Liz Hallock, who is running for governor as a Green Party candidate, is representing WASHLITE in the lawsuit against Fox News. “We are not trying to chill free speech here. But we believe the public was endangered by false and deceptive communications in the stream of commerce,” Hallock said in phone interview Friday. “There are a lot of people who listen to Fox News, and they’re not taking the recommendations of public-health officials seriously. This is not about money; it’s about making sure the public gets the message this is not a hoax.” According to Hallock, several members of WASHLITE live in King County and one of them has COVID-19, the respiratory disease caused by the virus. … Hallock said her clients are seeking only nominal damages and reasonable attorney’s fees. Ideally, she would like a judge to find Fox News violated the Consumer Protection Act and to tell the media organization to stop disseminating false information about the virus. She’d also like to see Fox News issue a clear retraction and an apology to viewers. She said the classic example to demonstrate the limits of free speech is someone yelling “Fire!” in a crowded theater when there is no danger. In contrast, Hallock said of Fox News: “They’re yelling, ‘There is no fire!’ when there is a fire.”
As you’d probably expect, Murdoch and Fox are threatening an aggressive response, including seeking sanctions, i.e. a financial penalty, from the plaintiff. From The Daily Beast:
The conservative outlet fired back—in a statement provided to The Daily Beast, and attributed to Lily Fu Claffee, Fox News Media’s general counsel—that WASHLITE’s lawsuit is “Wrong on the facts, frivolous on the law.”
Claffee added, “We will defend vigorously and seek sanctions as appropriate.”
But Fox may have met its match. More from The Daily Beast:
WASHLITE board member Arthur West, a non-lawyer and former automobile mechanic who earns what he describes as a handsome living as a professional public-interest plaintiff, told The Daily Beast that he’s not impressed by Claffee’s vow to seek retribution: “We are not afraid of the big bad Fox.”
As for possible sanctions against him and his group, “I’m pretty sure they’ll try something like that, because that’s what bullies do,” West said…
Stay tuned!
Published with permission of NewsHounds


crooksandliars--2020-04-06--CNN Doctor Shreds Peter Navarro: 'This Is Not A 'Can't-Hurt-Might-Help-Why-Not' Situation!'

The hubris and defensiveness of Peter Navarro pushed even John Berman to the limit on Monday .
And CNN presenting `` both sides '' between Peter `` social scientist '' Navarro and a medical doctor Sanjay Gupta is absurd .
At least they gave Dr. Gupta the last word , this time .
JOHN BERMAN : We all want the same thing , which is people to get better .
NAVARRO : I 'm not sure we do sometimes .
BERMAN : What are you talking about ?
Hang on .
NAVARRO : You 're really , you 're setting @ @ @ @ @ @ @ dichotomy between , you know this doctor over here .
BERMAN : I respect you , do n't you dare for a second suggest I do n't want people to get better from this .
I got two friends -- NAVARRO : No , no , that 's not what I said , John .
Do n't put those words in my mouth .
When you say that when we come on here and we say we all want the same thing , there 's this political overtone , this battle between you @ @ @ @ @ @ @ up a dichotomy .
BERMAN : We want people to get better .
No false dichotomy .
We want people to get better and I appreciate your efforts to do so .
Do n't suggest my questions are anything other than trying to figure out what science is behind this , and the efficacy .
NAVARRO : Fair enough , John .
I really enjoy talking to you and you know , you 're an honorable man and if I offended you in any way , was n't my intention , but you @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , so I was n't guilty of that .
But anyway , look , John , people are dying here .
This is war .
This is an important debate to have and I think it was a wise decision on the form of the task force to move forward with this and let doctors and patients determine .
I really would urge you to have people like William Grace on , Mitch Katz , talk to some of the doctors at the front line taking hydroxychloroquine as a prophylactic and let 's @ @ @ @ @ @ @ we 're working overtime , John .
BERMAN : I got you .
Peter , you 're also working on the supply chain issues getting supplies out to the states and hospitals and I want to talk to you about that , to have that discussion .
BERMAN : Thank you very much for your time .
I appreciate it .
Alisyn ?
Let 's bring in Dr. Sanjay Gupta , also back with us is national political reporter for `` Axios . ''
Jonathan Swan , who has done the reporting Peter @ @ @ @ @ @ @ I want to know what you heard from Peter Navarro .
I heard him say they do n't want to wait for the clinical trials .
They want to get this into the bodies of patients and the hands are doctors right now .
What was your impression ?
SANJAY GUPTA : It 's a total clash here , Alisyn .
Understandably and I think John made this point very clearly , of course , everybody would love for a therapeutic to get out there , and to work .
I mean , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , I mean everyone on the planet wants this , something to work at some point .
Fact of the matter is , we do n't know if hydroxychloroquine works .
We do n't even know if maybe it works for some people and not others .
Could it make some people worse ?
Small example , this is a medication that seems to suppress your immune system .
That 's why it works for patients of autoimmune diseases .
If you 're somebody who needs a strong immune system because you 're @ @ @ @ @ @ @ been working well , would you want to suppress that person 's immune system ?
Probably not .
I do n't know .
Nobody knows .
That 's sort of the point , and someone who has an overreaction of their immune system to this maybe it might work .
We do n't know .
You want to do the studies here .
Could it be harmful to some people ?
Possibly .
That would be obviously a terrible outcome .
We do n't know the dosing that should be given , we @ @ @ @ @ @ @ be given .
John was quite right in terms of having characterized the studies .
They 've been the studies that have involved mild patients with mild disease .
Now why is that important ?
That 's important because thankfully most patients still recover from coronavirus .
So if you have two groups , and one group they have mild disease , the other group has mild disease , one group gets the medication , the other group does n't get the medication , they 're both very likely to improve .
How @ @ @ @ @ @ @ sort of data , especially when it 's a really small trial ?
Look , I 'm trying to give a little bit of the reasoning behind why trials are done .
You do n't want to harm people .
There is a real potential here for that , so that it is not a ca n't hurt/might help/why not situation .
It just is n't .
I want there to be a therapy .
You want there to be a therapy , John , everybody wants there to be a therapy , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ it could happen quickly , but why would n't we do that ?
Why would n't we do the trials ?

The hubris and defensiveness of Peter Navarro pushed even John Berman to the limit on Monday. And CNN presenting "both sides" between Peter "social scientist" Navarro and a medical doctor Sanjay Gupta is absurd. At least they gave Dr. Gupta the last word, this time.
JOHN BERMAN: We all want the same thing, which is people to get better.
NAVARRO: I'm not sure we do sometimes.
BERMAN: What are you talking about? Hang on.
NAVARRO: You're really, you're setting this up kind of as a false dichotomy between, you know this doctor over here.
BERMAN: I respect you, don't you dare for a second suggest I don't want people to get better from this. I got two friends --
NAVARRO: No, no, that's not what I said, John. Don't put those words in my mouth. When you say that when we come on here and we say we all want the same thing, there's this political overtone, this battle between you know, you're trying to set up a dichotomy.
BERMAN: We want people to get better. No false dichotomy. We want people to get better and I appreciate your efforts to do so. Don't suggest my questions are anything other than trying to figure out what science is behind this, and the efficacy.
NAVARRO: Fair enough, John. I really enjoy talking to you and you know, you're an honorable man and if I offended you in any way, wasn't my intention, but you did not let me finish my sentence, so I wasn't guilty of that. But anyway, look, John, people are dying here. This is war. This is an important debate to have and I think it was a wise decision on the form of the task force to move forward with this and let doctors and patients determine. I really would urge you to have people like William Grace on, Mitch Katz, talk to some of the doctors at the front line taking hydroxychloroquine as a prophylactic and let's see what happens. I mean, we're working overtime, John.
BERMAN: I got you. Peter, you're also working on the supply chain issues getting supplies out to the states and hospitals and I want to talk to you about that, to have that discussion.
NAVARRO: Any time, John.
BERMAN: Thank you very much for your time. I appreciate it. Alisyn?
ALISYN CAMEROTA: Fascinating interview.
Let's bring in Dr. Sanjay Gupta, also back with us is national political reporter for "Axios." Jonathan Swan, who has done the reporting Peter Navarro was commenting on. Sanjay, I want to know what you heard from Peter Navarro. I heard him say they don't want to wait for the clinical trials. They want to get this into the bodies of patients and the hands are doctors right now. What was your impression?
SANJAY GUPTA: It's a total clash here, Alisyn. Understandably and I think John made this point very clearly, of course, everybody would love for a therapeutic to get out there, and to work. I mean, you know, when I say everyone, I mean everyone on the planet wants this, something to work at some point. Fact of the matter is, we don't know if hydroxychloroquine works. We don't even know if maybe it works for some people and not others. Could it make some people worse? Small example, this is a medication that seems to suppress your immune system. That's why it works for patients of autoimmune diseases. If you're somebody who needs a strong immune system because you're elderly and your immune system has not been working well, would you want to suppress that person's immune system? Probably not. I don't know. Nobody knows. That's sort of the point, and someone who has an overreaction of their immune system to this maybe it might work. We don't know. You want to do the studies here. Could it be harmful to some people? Possibly. That would be obviously a terrible outcome. We don't know the dosing that should be given, we don't know the duration that should be given. John was quite right in terms of having characterized the studies. They've been the studies that have involved mild patients with mild disease. Now why is that important? That's important because thankfully most patients still recover from coronavirus. So if you have two groups, and one group they have mild disease, the other group has mild disease, one group gets the medication, the other group doesn't get the medication, they're both very likely to improve. How do you really make sense of that sort of data, especially when it's a really small trial? Look, I'm trying to give a little bit of the reasoning behind why trials are done. You don't want to harm people. There is a real potential here for that, so that it is not a can't hurt/might help/why not situation. It just isn't. I want there to be a therapy. You want there to be a therapy, John, everybody wants there to be a therapy, but we got to be sure and it could happen quickly, but why wouldn't we do that? Why wouldn't we do the trials?


crooksandliars--2020-04-06--Peter Navarro: 'I Bet On Trump's Intuition' Over Science When It Comes To Treatment Of COVID-19

Peter Navarro , Trump 's Director of Trade and Manufacturing Policy , who now is identifying as a social scientist , made the rounds on television today ... after it was reported that he got into a heated confrontation with Dr. Fauci in a green room over the use of hydroxychloroquine on the coronavirus .
Earlier this morning on Fox and Friends , Navarro was reciting his Kellyanne Conway-prepared alternative facts and talking points about the anti-malaria drug , when co-host Ainsley Earhardt brought up the good Dr. F. In an annoyed tone , she asked , `` So what @ @ @ @ @ @ @ want more testing ? ''
What a pain in the ass that Dr. Fauci is .
How dare he slow Trump 's roll after the stable genius bragged about hydroxychloroquine .
Navarro knows exactly what Dr. Fauci 's objections are to administering hydroxychloroquine without verifiable results , but Navarro just stated he will let the medical professional speak for himself .
`` He takes the view that is important to have control studies , randomized studies and go through the science and come to the end and determine what 's going on , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ like a true medical professional ?
Like someone whose oath is 'first do no harm ? '
Navarro brought up the fact that he was a social scientist , like that means anything within a medical context and how he agrees with having real testing to see if a drug is an effective treatment .
Then Navarro claimed that we are in a war and that Trump is a wartime president .
He said , `` In the fog of war we might take more risks than we otherwise would . ''
He @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , which has no bearing on the coronavirus , but it is an approved White House talking point .
`` There are side effects , '' he said as if that is a meaningless statement .
He continued , `` If it saves lives that 's a beautiful thing and I think history will judge who 's right on this debate . ''
Medical treatments for the most part that involve drugs are not up for `` debate '' after they 've been tested .
They work or they do n't , but @ @ @ @ @ @ @ tests are completed .
`` But I bet on President Trump 's intuition on this one , because of all the doctors in all the scientific papers I 've read ( He made a hand gesture making believe it was a thick pile of studies ) and they 're about this high .
He stopped and the Fox and Friends crew were momentarily stunned into silence .
That 's a rare thing for the Trump fan club .
This man is a charlatan and should be fired for comparing himself being an economics @ @ @ @ @ @ @ It 's obvious he 's the perfect spokesman for Trump .
One charlatan covering for another .

Peter Navarro, Trump's Director of Trade and Manufacturing Policy, who now is identifying as a social scientist, made the rounds on television today... after it was reported that he got into a heated confrontation with Dr. Fauci in a green room over the use of hydroxychloroquine on the coronavirus.
Earlier this morning on Fox and Friends, Navarro was reciting his Kellyanne Conway-prepared alternative facts and talking points about the anti-malaria drug, when co-host Ainsley Earhardt brought up the good Dr. F.
In an annoyed tone, she asked, "So what does Dr. Fauci want, does he want more testing?"
What a pain in the ass that Dr. Fauci is. How dare he slow Trump's roll after the stable genius bragged about hydroxychloroquine.
Navarro knows exactly what Dr. Fauci's objections are to administering hydroxychloroquine without verifiable results, but Navarro just stated he will let the medical professional speak for himself.
"He takes the view that is important to have control studies, randomized studies and go through the science and come to the end and determine what's going on," Navarro said.
Do you mean like a true medical professional? Like someone whose oath is 'first do no harm?'
Navarro brought up the fact that he was a social scientist, like that means anything within a medical context and how he agrees with having real testing to see if a drug is an effective treatment.
Then Navarro claimed that we are in a war and that Trump is a wartime president.
He said, "In the fog of war we might take more risks than we otherwise would."
He then bragged about its success against malaria, which has no bearing on the coronavirus, but it is an approved White House talking point.
"There are side effects," he said as if that is a meaningless statement.
What f**king side effects?
He continued, "If it saves lives that's a beautiful thing and I think history will judge who's right on this debate."
Medical treatments for the most part that involve drugs are not up for "debate" after they've been tested.
They work or they don't, but judgement is made after detailed studies and tests are completed.
"But I bet on President Trump's intuition on this one, because of all the doctors in all the scientific papers I've read (He made a hand gesture making believe it was a thick pile of studies) and they're about this high.
He stopped and the Fox and Friends crew were momentarily stunned into silence. That's a rare thing for the Trump fan club.
This man is a charlatan and should be fired for comparing himself being an economics expert to being a medical expert.
It's obvious he's the perfect spokesman for Trump. One charlatan covering for another.


crooksandliars--2020-04-06--MSNBC's Joy Reid On Andrew Cuomo's Leadership: 'In A Way, He Is The President'

MSNBC host Joy Reid asserted on Sunday that Gov .
Andrew Cuomo ( D-NY ) is now the acting president @ @ @ @ @ many Americans .
During a segment on MSNBC , a guest lamented that Donald Trump @ @ @ @ @ Cuomo , who has gotten national attention over his handling of the coronavirus pandemic .
@ @ @ @ @ that I am a fan of Andrew Cuomo , '' former ABC News anchor Carole @ @ @ @ @ wish very much that he were president of the United States now running a national @ @ @ @ @ '' `` I mean , kind of , is n't he ? ''
Reid said @ @ @ @ @ mean , is n't he actually [ the president ] ?
I mean , in @ @ @ @ @ the president . ''

MSNBC host Joy Reid asserted on Sunday that Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D-NY) is now the acting president of the United States for many Americans.
During a segment on MSNBC, a guest lamented that Donald Trump is the president instead of Cuomo, who has gotten national attention over his handling of the coronavirus pandemic.
"I have to admit that I am a fan of Andrew Cuomo," former ABC News anchor Carole Simpson said, "and wish very much that he were president of the United States now running a national battle against this virus."
"I mean, kind of, isn't he?" Reid said of Cuomo. "I mean, isn't he actually [the president]? I mean, in a way, he is the president."